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By dumbing the conversation down in this way, you are not promoting constructive dialogue - you are simply solidifying preexisting sentiments.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by ahyaprobly
By dumbing the conversation down in this way, you are not promoting constructive dialogue - you are simply solidifying preexisting sentiments.
I disagree.
I disagree that it’s dumbing the conversation down or NOT promoting constructive dialog. There have been 25 pages of dialog so far….that’s 500 replies.
I simply pointed out the FACT that GUNS are not responsible for any death…PEOPLE are responsible. Our FOCUS should not be on any gun regulation but on people and the actions of people. You can’t lock everyone in a padded room naked to protect them from themselves or protect u from them! Regulating guns further is akin to locking us in a padded room and stripping us of our freedom.
Why not focus on enforcing current law and addressing the mental health issues that LEAD to violent crime rather than focusing on the inanimate objects used to commit said crime??
Doesn’t that make more sense? It certainly should!!
edit on 17-2-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Konoyaro
Guns will pretty much disappear of themselves when we have no need for them anymore, legislating them away will not take a way crime. When the average human has matured enough to see that crime causing is unnecessary, guns and other self-protection devices will fall out of fashion, naturally, that's the only way it realistically happen, very unlikely though looking at the current world, but perhaps there will be a time...
Originally posted by ahyaprobly
reply to post by seabag
You pointed out a fact that needs no pointing out. No one thinks that guns kill people. If they do, they are not worth debating to begin with. The debate should be whether the current proposals (assault weapons ban, mandatory background checks, etc.) are worth consideration.
Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
reply to post by seabag
Man thats a nice collection! What kind of guns is that in the 4th picture at the top with the bipod (I think that's what it's called)?
Originally posted by liverlad
All these people who now defend guns are gonna be frowned upon by people in the future when they look back in history, Just like the ones who thought they had a right to own other people as slaves, people made a fuss about that too when they decided to take that right away, but history has proven that was the right decision.
So will be bringing your current gun laws into the modern age.
State of Maryland has the 2nd toughest gun laws in the nation. Background checks, waiting periods, only 1 regulated weapon purchase a month, nearly impossible to get a conceal carry, hi cap magazine ban... But guess what? MD has more gun crimes than states twice its size. Laws mean nothing to law breakers.
Originally posted by liverlad
People with guns kill people.
Originally posted by Lichter daraus
reply to post by liverlad
What do you not get here. This little experiment was about what would guns do if nobody was around them, meaning no people near the guns. because so many people like to say that guns kill people when in fact they do not people kill people.
As i said before, people are only HALF the problem, the other half is the easy access of deadly killing tools.
Originally posted by ahyaprobly
reply to post by mr10k
I did not put the blame on guns. In fact, I went out of my way to affirm the idea that people kill people. Forks and knives can kill people, but not as quickly or easily as an automatic rifle. Hence the debate.
Originally posted by ahyaprobly
reply to post by seabag
I am amused by the fact that you know nothing about me, and yet lump me into the category of "them". It is this basic mentality of "us" vs. "them" that has caused our political system to stagnate. Note that I have yet to put YOU in a category, as I do not know you.