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When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
Arthur C. Clarke's First of the Three Laws
a person who is equal to another in abilities, qualifications, age, background, and social status.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
I notice this more and more with my peers. There seems to be a predilection as we age to assume we already know the answers just by reading an abstract or even skimming a headline. I don't like it, but what do we do?
as for a horror story concerning peer review,
who's the dr. that claimed he invented aids?
Originally posted by circlemaker
When someone discovers something new they often have no peers in their particular area of expertise.
People forget to look at what their heroes of discovery and deep thought in the past went through in their attempt to get the ideas that are taken for granted now through. A shocking number never saw full recognition by the experts or "peers" while alive, if any.
Originally posted by circlemaker
Funny thing...
Here's a definition of "peer" from dictionary.com:
a person who is equal to another in abilities, qualifications, age, background, and social status.
When someone discovers something new they often have no peers in their particular area of expertise.
Furthermore the scientific establishment is full of starved egos who make themselves feel higher by pulling others down the ladder which is of course a false sense of empowerment. This is why I find the concept of "submitting to peers" a bit ironic, and frankly a waste of time.
In my personal opinion, the peer review process has at once been set on a pedestal as infallible, and at the same time unduly criticized...
So can we please get back on the ground.
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by circlemaker
Regardless of the human shortcomings, the bigger problem I personally see, is the portrayal of a review system as being equally scientific in methodology to the material it is reviewing. Which is obviously not the case. From my perspective, the journals themselves should shoulder the responsibility of making the reader aware of the process of review, and its innate limitations.
Have you ever gotten a paper in (or through) a peer review process? If so, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on how YOU would improve it (knowing that each journal gets hundreds of papers submitted to it for publication.)
In all fairness to those involved in the review process, I must also mention that many of these academics are not paid for their time reviewing other peoples work. They can easily become inundated with requests for reviews.
They can't publish them all, and picking the ones to publish based on "did the authors attend important schools" or "what else have the authors published" is a really lousy way to do it, IMHO.
Erm... they do. It's the "letters to the editor" section (no, I'm not kidding.) And I've seen some real scream-fests in them as well as at conferences (that's the other place where the audience really will jump on problematic papers.)