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Because a different flu vaccine is used each season, unsold doses cannot be saved and end up being destroyed (along with any potential profits).
But the H5N1 vaccine is not included in the vaccines available to the American public?
A happy coincidence? Excuse me? No one has any natural immunity to H5N1 bird flu. It�s a new strain that kills 70% of the people it infects, and it�s highly contagious.
Webby's laboratory has sent the seed H5N1 vaccine to the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta and the World Influenza Center in London for further testing, in preparation for initial Phase I and Phase II trials in humans. "It's important to move right along with these trials in case the virus begins spreading from person to person," Webster says.
World Health Organization (WHO) experts said Monday a human vaccine for H5N1 bird flu will be available in six months.
Dr. Robert Webster, bird flu expert from the World Health Organization (WHO) Collaborating Laboratory on Influenza, said at a press conference that a human vaccine for the H5N1 bird flu virus is being studied and is expected to be available in six months' time.
As told by Webster, the vaccine is devised by using the technology of reverse genetics and is now ready for testing on humans. Once it is proved to be safe and effective in protecting human from H5N1 virus, the vaccine will be released for the public.
HHS Orders Avian Flu Vaccine Doses As Preventive Measure
HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson announced today the awarding of a contract to Aventis Pasteur Inc. to manufacture and store 2 million doses of avian influenza H5N1 vaccine, an important initial acquisition to better prepare the nation for an influenza pandemic.
The vaccine that is being made is designed to match the H5N1 influenza virus that has killed 29 people in Thailand and Vietnam this year. If a pandemic of avian influenza virus H5N1 occurred in humans, the new vaccine would be used to protect laboratory workers, public health personnel, and, if needed, the general public.
"This is an important first step toward preparing our nation to respond to a pandemic influenza outbreak," Secretary Thompson said. "The reemergence of the avian flu in Asia this year is another sign that we have to develop and produce vaccines against the threat of a pandemic flu. The United States is the first nation to undertake this preventive measure on this scale."
The amount of the contract is nearly $13 million. The purchase of the new vaccine follows Secretary Thompson's announcement last month of the National Pandemic Influenza Response and Preparedness Plan, which outlines a coordinated national strategy to prepare for and respond to an influenza pandemic. The draft plan can be found online at www.hhs.gov... and is a result of years of work by the department.
Originally posted by MrOtis
So would you agree that the president and his administration are right on top of this critical health care issue?
From dailyrecord: WORLD FLU SUMMIT OVER EPIDEMIC FEAR
"WORLD health chiefs have called a crunch meeting amid fears that a deadly global outbreak of flu is set to strike.
The World Health Organisation is increasingly worried that a mutation of bird flu could kill millions across the planet.
Sixteen vaccine manufacturers and officials from several countries will attend the summit in Geneva, Switzerland next week.
Klaus Stohr , influenza chief of the UN health agency, yesterday warned: 'We believe that we are closer to the next pandemic than we ever were.'
Originally posted by keholmes
it never ceases to amazing me how stupid some people are.....every one has known yet from the previous post they are just now meeting about it.....yet over 7 months ago bush caused it all....one line it's a brand new thing the next it's almost a hundred years old.....omg it is simply amazing.
Originally posted by soficrow
FYI - I work with an Internet coalition of diagnosed fibromuscular dysplasia (FMD) survivors - we have been researching this disease and its various mutations for over 2 years and have 100's of gigs of medical files. The analysis above is based on the medical and scientific research.
A. Flu viruses mutate, so a different vaccine is REQUIRED each season and unsold doses are NORMALLY destroyed - but not necessarily. ...This year, and with government help, manufacturers are dumping old vaccines on Americans that immunize against A New Caledonian, A Fujian and B Shanghai, none of which are a current threat. NO ONE manufactured these formulations for the current flu season - they're old. The clear and present danger is the deadly avian flu H5N1 strain.
H5N1 is a well known, long identified threat. "H5N1 has laid waste to poultry stocks across wide swathes of Asia but it doesn't restrict itself to chickens. People, pigs, dogs, domestic cats, tigers and leopards -- the virus has surprised experts by showing it can infect far afield without acquiring the non-avian genetic material once thought to be necessary for it to jump species."
www.canada.com...
Q. "How is Bush "pushing" any type of vaccine to ordinary Americans?"
A. Bush is propagating disinformation and 'neglecting' to inform Americans that available vaccines do NOT protect anyone against the real threat of H5N1 avian flu. He is helping manufacturers dump old stock.
Q. Did Bush make a decision not to protect the USA from avian flu H5V1?
A. Obviously. Bush was warned repeatedly that H5N1 is virulently contagious, deadly and about to go epidemic world wide - by the WHO, CDC, Mayo Clinic and every respected virologist and epidemiologist in the world. The H5N1 vaccine was developed in the USA in 2003. He had plenty of time to prepare, and deal with the problem. He gave the whole order to one good buddy late in the game, then chose to ignore warnings from Britain that contamination problems at Chiron's vaccine manufacturing plant were not fixed. If Britain had not stepped in and shut the plant down, Bush would have pushed the contaminated vaccines in America.
In fact, after hearing of Chiron's continued production problems in mid-September, Bush ordered only
2 million back-up doses on September 21, 2004 from Aventis-Pasteur. These vaccines are for the Bush band of chosen survivors.
www.hhs.gov...
FYI - The two most dangerous flu strains are H5 and H7 strains - partly because they tend to be virulent, but also because it is very difficult to manufacture the vaccines. "H7 is one of two influenza subtypes -- H5 is the other -- for which it is particularly difficult to develop vaccines because they kill chicken embryos. Flu vaccines are grown in fertilized chicken eggs."
www.canada.com...
More proof that Bush does not care about ordinary Americans - only profits for his buddies - Despite the USA's desperate need for H5 and H7 flu vaccines, Bush just had his administration sign a contract with Chiron (!) to produce a vaccine for the H9N2 flu strain in it's Italian manufacturing plant.
www.onlypunjab.com...
MORE INFO - FYI
Travel Health Advisory - Avian Influenza A (H5N1) Activity in Asia - Human Cases Thailand
www.news.gc.ca...
A Sickness Spreads
www.time.com...
The Monster at the Door
www.commondreams.org...
CHARACTERISTICS OF SOME COMMON VIRUSES OF MAN
alpha.qmul.ac.uk/~ugbt110/viruses/ohpweek8.doc.
[edit on 30-10-2004 by soficrow]
Originally posted by Muaddib
Keholmes, Bush did not cause it all........and if you think so you are giving him more power than he truly has. What is amazing is that people try to blame Bush for everything that is happening, just to further their own agendas, that's what is amazing...
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Originally posted by soficrow
Maudib - if you honestly cared about the issues - you would read the references.
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Originally posted by keholmes
That�s what I was trying to say....I guess I just got a little too worked up to make it that obvious. It�s just friggin silly that some mope tries to obfuscate real and serious problems to make a silly little political point. The previous post I referred to was the one just prior to mine wherein it appears that we as a nation are actually ahead of the world in preparation for this. Yet, bush is personally running down to the CDC and telling them how to set policy....what a load of crap.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by keholmes
I agree with you, some people would try anything to further their own agendas and propaganda.
I know about FMD because I am diagnosed with it. ...After a lifetime of episodic hell, I was diagnosed in 1990, given an angioplasty and told the disease was incurable but recurrences would be treatable.
...Guess what? It's not treatable. The disease causes stem cell mutations in connective tissue inside the blood and lymph vessel walls - then it spreads by cell-cell contact to smooth muscle. FYI smooth muscle cells can be 1500-odd feet long, and the same cell can wind through the body from head to foot several times. Also by cell-cell contact, it spreads to other connective tissue - in bone, joints, and more.
FMD can take decades to kill - but before it does, it wipes out the immune system and eats away systems and organs slowly, bit by piece. Someday, maybe soon, I will die quickly by stroke, heart attack, dissected artery or ruptured aneurysms. Or slowly by kidney failure. On the way I will have other 'problems' - I already have osteoarthritis (from destroyed joint tissue), COPD (destroyed lung tissue), fibromyalgia (destroyed muscle tissue), systemic pain amplification syndrome (nervous tissue in the process of being destroyed)... and the list goes on.
I waited for treatment - but the disease is now systemic and too widespread in my body to benefit from surgery. AFTER I cleaned out my savings, pensions and everything and went bankrupt, I found support on the Net and started researching FMD with a vengeance. ...I am only 52, a single mother with a 14-year-old daughter. I am too young to be disabled; I want to live and produce. But I can't, and you will support me because you will not support solutions.
....One of the first things I discovered is that FMD is epidemic in the USA - new cases are reported at an incidence rate of 1.7% per year, 1.1% diagnosed in autopsy. That translates to an average of 7,000 new cases in Americans diagnosed in autopsy every single DAY.
So do I have an agenda? You betcha. I want everyone to know about this disease - that it's transmitted through our food and water - and that its progression is radically speeded by drugs that shut down immune response and also, by contaminants in our food air and water.
I want everyone to know FMD is epidemic but invisible - and it can be prevented. But it's not, because letting it spread is just too profitable.
....So there you have it. My motivation and my agenda.
Your turn.
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Originally posted by Majic
I wonder if this is where it begins?
Originally posted by Muaddib
My turn Soficrow?...
Do you think that if Kerry wins all pollution, and all these problems are somehow going to dissapear and everything will be alright?
[edit on 2-11-2004 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by Muaddib
My turn Soficrow?...
Do you think that if Kerry wins all pollution, and all these problems are somehow going to dissapear and everything will be alright?
[edit on 2-11-2004 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by soficrow
I meant your turn re: Please put your agenda on the table.
I am writing sincerely to educate people about this disease, and the role of pollution in spreading it, and speeding its progression.
You are reducing everything to a cheerleader cattle call - and flooding the board to keep your spin at the top.
Whomever wins - I will continue fighting for the same things.
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Originally posted by soficrow
H5N1 bird flu is virulent, deadly and set to go epidemic world wide. The World Health Organization (WHO) declared a pandemic alert in February 2003, and the CDC routinely issues Enhanced Level Alerts for H5N1. An H5N1 vaccine was developed by April 2003 at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in the USA. This fall, the H5N1 vaccine was provided to top level White House personnel, but the vaccines Bush is pushing to ordinary Americans do not immunize against H5N1 bird flu.
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