Up To 12 Million Bees Found Dead In Florida And No One Knows Why

reply to post by Rodinus


Fair enough and I will concede the point about bees to you.

I haven't yet heard of mass extinctions from other pollinating insects however and that would make this certainly a larger and more serious issue.

If you happen to run across any articles about that I'd love if you can share them. I have to run off to school now but I'll keep an eye on the thread.

Peace

reply to post by Hopechest


Have a good day Hope,

It's fairly late here now so getting of the comp before i get nagged to death by my flu ridden family...

Will keep you up to date

Kindest respects

Rodinus

This is a depressing article. I like bees.

12 Million bees sounds like alot but really only good for a few square miles of fruit. Around here some kids got back at a farmers daughter by butning up his hives just one set was 3 million or something like that

Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by Casualboy100
We should take action before they get extinct

They are an important player in nature and if they went extinct then I would expect a few other things to go with them.. But I'm sure the economy is more important to most leaders than some pesky bees..

Wouldn't this fit in perfectly with De-population by TPTB?

Nothing will be voluntarily done, what is likely to happen is : The same foot dragging we have had with pollution from cars. factories and all the sources. Half hearted gestures to curb pollutants and dodges, buying and selling pollution credits, or fines that are government self serving and only intended as a revenue of sorts.

I'd guess we will have a Very apparent bad year in agriculture, which will be determined to be caused by a combination, but primarily non-pollination. A year or two will pass with ever increasingly bad harvests before this is addressed. The powers that be will vote to address this (after all what choice is there) and set up a commission to study it, while precious time is wasted, procure another dire catastrophe to drive up prices of everything, 'higher prices = more tax revenue, and still there will be nothing done........ until were on famine's doorstep. Then maybe the government will cooperate with agriculture to coordinate spraying and the containment of colonies, along with the truth about all manner of radio waves ie. Cell's, HAARP and the like. But it's also a convenient depopulation tool to let millions die of famine.

Only this time, it might be too late to turn back. Lets hope it becomes important enough that the cause is shown and addressed.

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AGAIN????
I did a thread on this in 2011.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess they're still trying to figure out what happened or are they running damage control to hide their nefarious poisonings?

SHouldnt this also effect other flying insects,Native Bees, Moths, butterflies, wasps, ect?

Originally posted by SunLife
SHouldnt this also effect other flying insects,Native Bees, Moths, butterflies, wasps, ect?

There's a difference in Flying insects, some soft bodied, and others exoskeleton. Two different insecticides used depending on which insect. Bees like ants and beetles are exoskeleton. A toxin that causes mortality in both would be truly toxic indeed.

Hydrogen Sulfide.

FL is surrounding by ocean.

Originally posted by Plotus
Nothing will be voluntarily done, what is likely to happen is : The same foot dragging we have had with pollution from cars. factories and all the sources. Half hearted gestures to curb pollutants and dodges, buying and selling pollution credits, or fines that are government self serving and only intended as a revenue of sorts.

I'd guess we will have a Very apparent bad year in agriculture, which will be determined to be caused by a combination, but primarily non-pollination. A year or two will pass with ever increasingly bad harvests before this is addressed. The powers that be will vote to address this (after all what choice is there) and set up a commission to study it, while precious time is wasted, procure another dire catastrophe to drive up prices of everything, 'higher prices = more tax revenue, and still there will be nothing done........ until were on famine's doorstep. Then maybe the government will cooperate with agriculture to coordinate spraying and the containment of colonies, along with the truth about all manner of radio waves ie. Cell's, HAARP and the like. But it's also a convenient depopulation tool to let millions die of famine.

Only this time, it might be too late to turn back. Lets hope it becomes important enough that the cause is shown and addressed.

Great post. imo your 2nd last sentence says it all. The tipping point has been reached.
second

Some time ago I saw an excellent documentary on the extinction of bees.
Turned out that much of the blame was the monoculture of the almond plantations in CA. It had managed to breed a certain type of parasite (or was it virus?) that now infects literally all hives world wide, apart from Australia (at the present, at least). All bees have to be imported from down under when pollination is due and in the process they all get infected and eventually die- millions of them.
It is not GM per se that causes this but agricultural monoculture, brutally managed with pesticides.

Then we have the other problem with the bees, the sudden death of entire hives, and I guess the OP is actually about that really, and for that the experts are still scratching their heads.

As for me, I am doing what I can to fend of the apocalyptic notions.
If the bees die, I mean, if bees become extinct, our days are numbered.
We really have to figure out what is causing this and we've gotta fix it!

Originally posted by Hopechest
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The only science in your link is a random quote by Albert Einstein. I'm not saying your wrong but I just am not seeing how the extinction of bees would wipe out humans.

You know that bees are not indigenous to America don't you? Many plants have flowers that require an insect for pollination. And many different insects can do the job. Keep in mind that there were no honeybees in America until Europeans brought them over. So, prior to the 17th century, all the pollination in America was done by indigenous species like bumble bees, wasps, flies, butterflies, etc.

Not sure why other insects won't pick up the task when the bees go away since they have before.

Einstein never said that even though it is often said that he did. Many plants are pollinated by different insects, wind, and even themselves. I believe bees are more efficient at carrying this out. You are correct though.

it doesn't take a genius to understand that the same chemicals in the name of pesticide and GMO seeds are the ones killing bees.

Pesticides chemicals are good at what they are made for, to kill insects, bees are insects after all.

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We need the bees, we cannot live without them.

That isn't true...and it's never been proven that Einstein truly said "“If the bee disappears from the surface of the Earth, man would have no more than four years left to live.” Although if bees were to go extinct it's not to say that there would indeed be a noticeable impact to "animal pollinated" crops and such.

However, it wouldn't be an extinction level event. Having said that, I am not discounting that this is indeed something that should be dealt with swiftly.

Take a read of this article and it will give you a better idea of what the impact on the human species would be if the extinction of bees come to pass.

Here's an excerpt...

Now I must quickly say that there is no good evidence that Albert Einstein actually said this. In fact he most assuredly did not. All you have to do is google “Einstein bees,” and you’ll get the whole story: how this quote surfaced for the first time in the early 1990s, long after Einstein’s death, and in contexts far removed from the possibility of verification. Moreover, one must note the fact that, genius though he was, Albert was a physicist, not an entomologist, and everyone knows that it’s entomologists who are the real authorities on this matter.

But the question implied in this pseudo-quote still stands: is it true that human life depends on bee pollination? Or, more precisely, to what extent does the quality of human life depend on bee pollination? These are legitimate questions, and it’s in everyone’s best interest to promulgate answers based on good biology and economics, not hyperbole, anecdote, or - as the Einstein pseudo-quote warns us - fiction.

Full University of Georgia Article: On Einstein, Bees, and Survival of the Human Race

Bees are sensitive to electromagnetic fields and use earth's electromagnetic field to navigate most likely in the same manner as birds thanks to magnetism sensing cryptochrome cells in their little eyes. Cellphone towers electromagnetic field changes the bees behavior and the field is so strong that natural field cant be measured so introducing earths natural frequency of 7,83hz back to their environment would make their bee brains able to navigate. I think that those little guys are so disoriented that they just lie down and die.

What if there is a frequency being emitted that is killing the bees off..?

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I never thought of that possibility. With all the talk about Harp or possible secret military testing with high frequency weapons, it could be what's causing these bees to die.

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It takes some serious temerity to claim the bee die off happened at the same time as the mass pesticide spraying but there is no correlation or causality.

Incredible. Who do they really think is going to buy that? ...besides your urban/sub-urban shut-in crowd?

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And surprisingly enough the officialdom denies that the pesticide spraying was what caused the mass die off..

it cant be the pesticide comapnies said its not and surely they have nothing gain
all sarcasm aside this really makes my blood boil to hear that these pesticides are being sprayed in the alarming amounts that they are, if people actualy properly manage their farms and get the right aniamls to arrive they shouldnt need them. and because of this animals like bees pay the price

"If man were to follow the teachings of Miss Carson, we would return to the Dark Ages, and the insects and diseases and vermin would once again inherit the earth."

this is sadly a quote from a chemical spokesman about rachel carson, the person who rasied awareness about this kind of thing happening

This is just heart breaking.

I just don't know why we can't all get on the same page and realize that we don't live on this planet by ourselves.