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One of the country's poorest Native American tribes wants to buy a historically significant piece of land where 300 of their ancestors were killed, but tribal leaders say the nearly $4 million price tag for a property appraised at less than $7,000 is just too much.
James Czywczynski is trying to sell a 40-acre fraction of the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to the Oglala Sioux Tribe. The land sits adjacent to a gravesite where about 150 of the 300 Lakota men, women and children killed by the 7th Cavalry in 1890 are buried.
Czywczynski, whose family has owned the property since 1968, recently gave the tribe an ultimatum: purchase the land for $3.9 million or he will open up bidding to non-Native Americans. He said he has been trying to sell the land to the tribe for years.
The ultimatum comes right before the tribe is poised to receive about $20 million from the Cobell lawsuit— a $3.4 billion settlement stemming from a class-action lawsuit filed over American Indian land royalties mismanaged by the government for more than a century.
Czywczynski, who also is trying to sell another 40-acre piece of nearby land to the tribe for $1 million, also noted a coalition of Sioux tribes raised $9 million in December to buy land about 100 miles away in the Black Hills — although the Oglala Sioux Tribe did not contribute to that effort.
"I'm getting older now and my family and myself want to dispose of this property," said Czywczynski, 75, who now lives in Rapid City. "We just want to see it in the hands of the Indian people rather than put it on the open market to the public."
On December 29, 1890, my grandmother, Sophie, was a 17-year-old student at the Holy Rosary Indian Mission, a Jesuit boarding school just a few miles from Wounded Knee. She was called out with the rest of the students to feed and water the horses of the soldiers of the 7th Cavalry that had just rode on to the mission grounds chasing down survivors that had escaped the slaughter. My grandmother recalled seeing blood on their uniforms and she overheard them bragging about the mighty victory they had just scored at Wounded Knee.
That's right, my grandmother, who is now deceased, remembered. Now does that make the Massacre at Wounded Knee ancient history to me? You bet that it does not. Many other Lakota still living today had grandmothers and grandfathers that were either killed or survived the massacre. No, it is not ancient history to the Lakota.
"Traditional people of Indian nations have interpreted the two roads that face the light-skinned race as the road to technology and the road to spirituality. We feel that the road to technology.... has led modern society to a damaged and seared earth. Could it be that the road to technology represents a rush to destruction, and that the road to spirituality represents the slower path that the traditional native people have traveled and are now seeking again? The earth is not scorched on this trail. The grass is still growing there." -William Commanda
Originally posted by b3l13v3
It really is sad to see these kinds of atrocities committed against the Native American tribes, even so many years later. If I had millions, you can be sure that I would gift the tribe the money so they may purchase it. It's truly sad how disgusting some people have become. Apparently in the 75 years of this mans life, he hasn't learned kindness or wisdom.
His soul will fight with it's own demons when he passes, and the price he pays will be much larger than the 3.7 million he's asking for from the tribe.
My hope and love goes out to this tribe, and I'll continue envisioning a world where humans get back to their roots.
"Traditional people of Indian nations have interpreted the two roads that face the light-skinned race as the road to technology and the road to spirituality. We feel that the road to technology.... has led modern society to a damaged and seared earth. Could it be that the road to technology represents a rush to destruction, and that the road to spirituality represents the slower path that the traditional native people have traveled and are now seeking again? The earth is not scorched on this trail. The grass is still growing there." -William Commanda
Originally posted by doobydoll
If I were that man, I would give it to them free of charge.
Originally posted by doobydoll
If I were that man, I would give it to them free of charge.
Originally posted by SeesFar
Originally posted by doobydoll
If I were that man, I would give it to them free of charge.
I'm sure that you would. =)
We cannot know the seller's circumstances. Perhaps he needs money as so many of us do; however, to offer something at, what? about 560 times more than it's valuation is ridiculous. And then to issue an ultimatum to the very People to whom it means most. I just don't get it. $70,000 would be ten times its value and I'm sure would tally up a nice profit for him considering he bought it (likely at market value) back in 1968.
I feel sorry for that seller. The other poster(s) were correct when they said he will ultimately pay some price for his actions.
A part of me would like to start an off-site page to see if I could get 4 million people to contribute $1 each; however, to do so would be to reward the seller's greed as well as send a message to others that they can get by with it, too.
I'd rather find a way to expose him to the public, which is one of the reasons for this thread.
Your kindheartedness is appreciated.
Originally posted by Advantage
If the feds are paying out, they are wanting it back... in one way or the other.
Originally posted by isyeye
The guy should do the right thing and give them the land...It belongs to them, regardless of what any piece of paper might say.
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by SeesFar
You think $100,000 an acre is too high for a historic site?
How is 40 acres appraised at $7,000? Maybe in 1710......
What is the issue here? The seller wants 4 mill.....If they don't want to pay it, someone will.....
Sorry I see no problems with this at all.....
Originally posted by pacifier2012
If you can 'seefar' could you have not 'forseen' this?