No fluoride in my water....Doctor prescribes what for my 9 month old daughter? Fluoride supplement?

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by usmc0311
The doctors are very pushy about it and that is quite annoying.

Wise thing to do might be to pretend you are a dumb-ass and tell the drug dealer that you are all taking them and thank him\her for their advice. Then flush them down the toilet.

Saves certain things being written on your medical records that might be used against you in the future when the medical industry starts getting nasty...

This is actually very smart! Once I do talk my wife into it I might go this route.......I was thinking about screaming at the doc, but what good will that do? NONE

I would rather just be the responsible and loving dad and question all the crap the doctor offers as a "benefit" to my daughter

Way, back in the day when my daughter was an infant..this was back in 94/95, I was a poor young single mom. I used to have to take her to County Health Services for check ups. One of her check ups, they sent me home with fluoride drops. At the time, I did not know any better, so I tried several times to administer them to her. Every time, without fail, she would gag and vomit it back out. I decided then and there something was seriously wrong with these drops and ceased trying to medicate her. I remember trying to bring it up at the next well-baby appt., and their answer was to send me home with another box. Huh??
Anyway, those went in the trash as well, and it was still years later before I discovered the truth about this industrial waste I had been prescribed for my little infant. Makes me sick to think about it now!

reply to post by NuclearPaul


I actually agree with that. As much as I would like to get all up in my doctor's grill, it is actually prudent to observe, react little, accept the advice, but do not use it. You will most likely get nowhere, anyway. In the end, you will have t make the choice to educate yourself, and the mother of your child on the many dangers of the medical industry.

My son is unvaccinated. As much as I would like to flip my lid at the doc whenever he starts in about it, I always just remain calm, tell him the decision was not made lightly, remind him of our family's near-death history with vaccines, and alway look sympathetic and interested in his "concerns". It is tempting to get dramatic about it, but I always advise to stay low, keep your info to yourself and don't draw attention.

Your daughter is very fortunate to have a well educated parent who knows the dangers of such a common product in house hold water.

I am 27 now, but only discovered what Fluoride does to the body after ingesting it for 21 years of my life. My parents never did their personal research about it, or about anything put in our food and water when I was growing up. I even had my shots up until high-school.

This story incites a lot of anger in me because of the things a lot (not all) doctors prescribe for people. They are supposed to be highly educated, and why they would push the things they do can only be considered sinister to me.

S&F Stay Vigilant

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Originally posted by jimmiec
My wife was pregnant with our second child, the doctor did an RH factor test. The test results came back high. The doctor recommended a specialist and said there was something wrong with our baby. We go to the specialist and he assures us that the test can be wrong and he will run it 3 more times to be sure. He runs the tests and sets up an appointment to discuss the results. The man is literally crying. He said our baby would be born deformed.
spina bifida, etc. We tell him that we don't believe in abortion and will take what we get. He wants to do an amniocentesis,which we declined. I had a friend who worked at the Childrens Hospital in Houston and asked him to get me all the information he could on this RH factor test. A week later he hands me about 20 pages of information on it. It was a real eye opener. The reserach showed that if the RH test came out high that there was a 1 in 10k chance that the baby was abnormal. It also stated that 1 in 500 women miscarry after an amniocentesis. It stated that if the baby's and mothers blood type were the same that the test would come out high. We made an appointment with the so called specialist and i tossed the RH factor research papers on his desk with the important info highlighted. He read it and said " I didn't know that!" She was born perfect, I am now a grandfather!
I don't think he did it on purpose. I think doctors are guilty of not really keeping up.

Wow! That's crazy that these doctors told you that. My perfectly fine, beautiful 9 year old little girl was born with RH factor problems as well. At Balboa Hospital (if your active duty military in San Diego that's where you go for child birth) they were totally different in a good way. First, they did tell us that my wife and the kids RH factor was an issue - but that it wasn't a big deal. I believe it was because my wife's blood is O+ and the kids was O- (the RH factor being the difference in the + or - of the blood). They gave her some kind of supplement but I know it wasn't flouride. Everything was fine!

Good on you for doing your homework and not just blindly trusting a doctor. Doctors are trained professions, and they usually do their job pretty well considering how complex it can be. However, they are not God and they aren't 100% right all the time.

Good on you!

Don't let that evil communist fluoride sap and impurify your precious bodily fluids.

Originally posted by havok
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein

 

Good for you ChrisF!

You have done the right thing and because of your research, will help not hurt.

I despise how some people fully trust these "medical" professionals without question.
It's almost as if there was nothing before them, no knowledge, no cures, nothing.
Humans just suffered with ailments and didn't survive for millenia without flouride!

I especially despise that it's free!
Good grief, the rage that would be unleashed if a doctor said that to me...


Something tells me you need to:
A: Inform your wife and doctors the horrors of supplemental flouride...
Or
B: Find a new, better, more knowledgable doctor.


Keep up the good fight!

Actually, the Fluoride tabs are not free they are supplemented financially by the County, State and Federal Govt. the more they give the more money comes to them for the inflated cost of the POISON. It is a political money scam to get rid of the industrial waste that the EPA wont allow in our landfills.

food for thought.

If they wont allow it in our landfills why would you want to put it in your body?

Unfortunately there's plenty of that here. Although I haven't heard of fluoride supplements, maybe because we have it enough in the water. They also promote here to drink tap water more than filtered water because its better for you. Anyone else seen those ads? Don't really know how to add links and such here so sorry but it's an easy search.

Time to get a new doctor. Seems like yours has been coasting along learning nothing new. It's like going to a barber who can only cut pompadours.

reply to post by Chrisfishenstein


I am buying this brand toothpaste to my daughter, and same company sells other different toothpastes in Non-Fluoride . Fluoride kills brain , it is proofed , makes you a "lamb", don't give her those pills, you were 1000% right!
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reply to post by ChesterJohn


I guess I didn't look if my insurance covered them, which I am sure they did.......By free, I meant I didn't even pay the deductible or copay or whatever the cost is called on prescriptions.....Nothing is free...

But I am sure to most this supplement is or people would research why they need to give it to their child so young and for so long......

WOW, I am speechless. I have never heard of this before. A big applause for you to standing up to this medical stupidity.....

I would inquire at the pharmacy or on the bottle if still available who supplied the allegedly "free" fluoride. I would bet a conspiracy dollar this was paid for by a government grant program or as a tax deduction by big pharma......

Just a thought ... nothing is free .....

reply to post by Chrisfishenstein


I can understand maybe why it might be appropriate for toothpaste, but why are we supposed to be ingesting it, it's not like it's a vitamine/nutrient laden compound, and things that end with "ide" usually aren't meant to be swallowed, I just don't get it, this idea that we need to be consuming flouride. I do know that it calcifies the pineal gland and thus may prevent enlightenment..

omg!!!! no freaken way!!!!!
i honestly got the goosebumps when i read your thread.
their might be a benifit or 2 of taking flouride (which i am not aware of at the moment) lol....
but im sure it's more harmful than beneficial. .
i really did "OMG" out loud after the ..."9 years" part. lol.

don't do it!!!

Fluoride is one of the most prevalent elements in nature, so its naturally going to be in things like food to some extent anyway. But the natural mineral is not the same chemical crap they put in your toothpaste (which is why the toothpaste tube says "call the poison control center" if you eat more than a pea sized lump!).

Flouride seeks out calcium with a vengeance. When its found in the ground its often with calcium because it literally sought it out to bond with it, so in your body if your taking fluoride, it seeks out calcium and leaches it from your bones or instead bonds with your bones and stays in your body (your bones by the way are where most of your stem cells come from, not a good place to pack away the poisons). The part of your body it loves most are not your teeth but the pineal gland int eh center of your brain. this gland regulates very sensitive things like sleep and hormones. Hormones are one of the most important and overlooked things for living healthy, for proper growth and development, etc. Your hormones balance everything in your body, and it's a delicate balance. If you screw up one of your few hormone centers, then that screws up a variety of things down the line.

You want her to get natural fluoride, plant a garden, grow your own veritable from the dirt, You want her to have healthy teeth. read Ramiel Nagel's book Cure Tooth Decay. Cavities are not the result of a fluoride deficiency, they are the result of other deficiencies. There are certain types of vitamins and minerals that our modern agriculture farming and diets just don't provide to our bodies anymore. This book (I don't sell it or know any one who does BTW) will outline the important parts about the specific and rare vitamin you cant buy in a pill that is a key part of having your heath remineralize naturally. You might not be able to eat the Grassfed meet, raw milk, and grassfed raw cheese, and other things that you need to get these nutrients. But you sure as hell should try!

Also you'll need some great sources of minerals with our mineral-depleted chemically fertilized agriculture today. A good mineral supplement is Mega Humic & Fulvic by Planet Minerals. It's essentially a chain of 72 minerals delivered into the insides of your cells. an amazing product for getting minerals and theirs is the only one in which chemicals were not used to derive it from some other source, it's simply a natural water-well source that they have access too so they don't need to use chemicals to purify their Humic and Fulvic. It's dark brown liquid, and tastes like water. A teaspoon a day for a few months can correct all sorts of mineral deficiency related health problems. My friend has been losing her hair since she was 17 when the doctor gave her a birth-control hormone thing that broke her hormone system and was later blamed for all sorts of problems in people, Shes been on the Humic and Fulvic for 3 months now and for the first time in many years of "trying everything" she is no longer losing her hair in handfulls, great stuff.

Cheers, good luck.

reply to post by Chrisfishenstein


Fluoride....pills? Those aren't going to help her teeth at all. In fact, all that's going to do is gum up her brain as the neuro-toxin that it has been proven to be.

Smart move friend, smart move.


PS: As a side note, tea's have a significant amount of natural fluoride in them, particularly black tea. Even more so, wines ere on the side of 300-350 ppm!

Originally posted by Raxoxane
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein

 

Oh i assumed you have country water-well i really hope that is correct,that your county dont have its water fluoridated.

Uh if they have well water they could very "Well" have higher levels of Fluoride! If you are in doubt have your water tested and do not assume you have Fluoride free water because you are on a well, there is no such thing as Fluoride free natural water...

I live in an area that does not add Fluoride because it is naturally found in the water.

I would have done the same thing as the OP. I wish we didn't have fluoride in our water here. Growing up, the town I lived in didn't add it to the water supply. When I was older and I moved into my own home, we didn't have fluoride in our water there, either. I was 39 years old before I had my first cavity filled, about 5 years after I had moved to SC to a city with fluoridated water. Things that make you go hmmm.....

I did want to just add something about the about the iced tea comment in the OP...unfortunately, iced tea, regular caffeine teas and green teas are very high in fluoride. I had discovered this when I started drinking roiboos te and was told it was high in fluoride, too. I don't know if there's a difference in the type of fluoride in tea with the kind they put in water but I can't imagine one type is better than the other at high levels. So even though you're mixing your iced tea with fluoride-free tap water, the tea itself contains a lot. Keep that in mind.

When I relized the negatives of flouride, I switched my family to bottled poland spring water, and to Toms Flouride free tooth paste. I never looked back.

Quick question I have is, how sure can we be that bottled spring water is in fact flouride free?


Thanks, Great thread!