The Last Pope?

Could there be a parallel between Saint Malachy's last eight popes...
...and the eight kings of Revelation 17:10-11.

"And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

The parallel was noticed a few years ago when five had died...

"...five are fallen..."
Pius XI
Pius XII
John XXIII
Paul VI
John Paul I

"...one is..."
John Paul II (he was alive when the interpretation was first made)

"...not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space".
Benedict XVI (current pope who has a short reign or a reign short of his time).

"...goes into perdition."
Final pope predicted by Saint Malachy...

The time hack for the "five are fallen" is the serious wounding of John Paul II.
With reference to the chiasmic parallel reference in Revelation 13:3...
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed:"


Now compare this with the list of St Malachy's last eight popes...

reply to post by troubleshooter

Here is a list of St Malachy's last eight popes...

105
Pius XI (1922-1939) Fides intrepida (Intrepid faith)
History: This Pope stood up to Fascist and Communist forces lining up against him in the lead up to World War II.

106
Pius XII (1939-1958) Pastor angelicus (Angelic Shepherd)
History: This Pope was very mystical, and is believed to have received visions. People would kneel when they received telephone calls from him. His encyclicals add enormously to the understanding of Catholic beliefs (even if they are now overlooked because of focus on the Second Vatican Council, which occurred so soon after his reign).

107
John XXIII (1958-1963) Pastor et Nauta (pastor and marine)
History: prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas.

108
Paul VI (1963-1978) Flos florum (flower of flowers)
History: his arms displayed three lilies.

109
John Paul I (1978) De medietate Lunæ (of the half of the moon)
Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Agardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on August 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half...

110
John Paul II (1978-2005) De labore Solis (of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
History: Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain (the East, where the Sun rises). He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12:1 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary). His Funeral occurred on 8 April, 2005 when there was a solar eclipse visible in the Americas.

111
Benedict XVI (2005-) Gloria olivæ
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order, since a branch of the Benedictine order is called the Olivetans. St Benedict is said to have prophesied that before the end of the world, a member of his order would be Pope and would triumphantly lead the Church in its fight against evil. While the Holy Father chose the name "Benedict", this does not seem enough to fulfil the prophecy. Nor is it clear how Benedict XVI (a Bavarian) is "Glory of the Olives". Since he is said to have remarked in the Conclave after saying he would take the name Benedict that it was partly to honour Benedict XV, a pope of peace and reconciliation, perhaps Benedict XVI will be a peacemaker in the Church or in the World, and thus carry the olive branch.

112
In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people.

Wow. Nine minutes ago, Bloomberg reported the favorite for the next pope to be, Cardinal PETER Turkson of Ghana.

www.bloomberg.com...


Here is an interesting note from Wikipedia.

In October 2011 Cardinal Turkson called for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document, Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority was very specific, calling for taxation measures on financial transactions. It notes that “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said. The document condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations.

He would be the NWO, Central Banker's Pope.

You know, in one fell swoop the Vatican could scupper the Malachy prophecy altogether, if they wamted to.
If the successor to Benedict also resigned, fairly soon, and got replaced by another one- abracadabra, the number of Popes has gone beyond Malachy's list.

I didn't buy into the St. Malachy prophecies until Ratzinger took the name Benedict. Then it all fit together. So now I'm a believer in them.

The next pope doesn't have to have the name Peter to fit the prophecy. When they get elected, they take a new name. So it could be ANY cardinal and he could take the name 'peter'. The prophecy says 'Peter the Roman' so I'd look to the Italian cardinals to fill the spot.

I favor Cardinal Arinze. He doesn't fit the prophecy... but he's got a lot of common sense ...

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Cardinal Peter Turkson ... his Wikipedia page has now been hacked ...

en.wikipedia.org...

Pedophilia etc etc has been added. :shk:

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The next pope doesn't have to have the name Peter to fit the prophecy. When they get elected, they take a new name. So it could be ANY cardinal and he could take the name 'peter'.

Being aware of the prophecy, because of the publicity given to it, might they not want to avoid that name, deliberately?
They would surely not want a "last Pope" prediction to be fulfilled, and they would probably want to provide less fuel for speculation.

So if the next Pope takes the name Peter, and points to the Comet ISON as he takes his oath of office, pack the bags and head for the hills. The Seven Hills of Roma that is!

Here's a 2010 thread about "the coming black Pope and the destruction of Rome", citing the prediction that the last Pope would be an African Cardinal:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by DISRAELI
Being aware of the prophecy, because of the publicity given to it, might they not want to avoid that name, deliberately?

Looks like they dont' pay attention to it.
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger took the name Benedict.
He could have taken any name he wanted, but he picked one that went with the prophecy.
This mean he jumped right into it ....

Seems either they ignore the prophecy or don't know about it ...

Originally posted by Aleister
So if the next Pope takes the name Peter, and points to the Comet ISON as he takes his oath of office, ..

The comet won't be at it's peak or visible to the naked eye until late this year.
The next pope will take office in March. During Lent.

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I don't see a hack here. Did you perhaps misread,

. He was elevated to the cardinalate by Pope John Paul II in 2003.[1] He is considered papabile.[2

as, 'He is considered a pedophile?'


papabile- potentially a future pope

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The next pope doesn't have to have the name Peter to fit the prophecy. When they get elected, they take a new name. So it could be ANY cardinal and he could take the name 'peter'.

Being aware of the prophecy, because of the publicity given to it, might they not want to avoid that name, deliberately?
They would surely not want a "last Pope" prediction to be fulfilled, and they would probably want to provide less fuel for speculation.

There is no "they" selecting the name, it's the new Pope's choice ("What name will you choose?" is asked of him). If the guy is going for drama, or if he hears the "voice of God" giving him the name, who knows if Petrus might just jump out of his mouth, and the Cardinals would all gasp in unision. Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that moment. The best thing they could do then is jump on him and kill him, and quickly elect the next guy in line who'll name himself Pope Ralph or something equally safe.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Aleister
So if the next Pope takes the name Peter, and points to the Comet ISON as he takes his oath of office, ..

The comet won't be at it's peak or visible to the naked eye until late this year.
The next pope will take office in March. During Lent.

I know, I meant points to the place in the sky and utters it's name, although the words "I Son" said in a papal enclave wouldn't be too much out of place.

Originally posted by ecapsretuo
I don't see a hack here. Did you perhaps misread,

WOW .. they fixed it fast!! No .. it was there. It said that his being papable was in question because, of of yet he hadn't fondled any boys but he was expected to soon.

Man .. Wikipedia fixed the hack fast!

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I see; was over there very shortly after your post.

His wiki site is likely getting suddenly bombarded now, as never before.

Originally posted by Aleister
There is no "they" selecting the name, it's the new Pope's choice ("What name will you choose?" is asked of him)..

I know, I was using "they" loosely to mean "the various people who might be candidates". There's a plurality of possible Popes, until the election takes place, and "not wanting to fuel speculation" could be a common thought amongst them,.

The pope has resigned.

2nd

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Let me be the first to predict that the next Pope will be Canadian.

Foe Malachi's prophecy to pan out the Pope must either take the name Petrus or be named Petrus (his original name or his name as a Cardinal), and possibly be Italian. Any other roll of the dice and the specific prophecy will fail. So a Canadian it will be. And no, I don't know any details about Canadian Cardinals, if there are any. Just a hunch and a dream.

www.usatoday.com...

The current pope is stepping down Feb 28th... Oh Noes Becky! Peter the Roman is on the way.. But really though, this is freaky weird. You guys think this prophecy could be true? I mean its right there on the edge, and its for dam sure possible..

Originally posted by Aleister

Let me be the first to predict that the next Pope will be Canadian.

A parting free gift;
PETRUS ROMANUS is only two letters short of being an anagram for ONTARIO SUPREMUS