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I've experienced these things, but have I just been subconsciously making these things seem real and happen?
Just because you can't physically see it with your own eyes doesn't mean it isn't there. Scientists have only been about to define the existence of 5% of the universe... 95% falls in the "dark energy" category. Dark energy 70% and dark matter 25%... not because it's "dark" but because we can't sense it with our 5 physical senses.
Originally posted by intrptr
Could the "unknown quantity" that is "missing" from the data be all the spiritual energy filling the void? I never looked at it that way before. NASA themselves are stumped by it and it does not show up on any of our detectors or formulas.
Now I'm curious to find out whether cell phone and wireless transmissions can be measured! That's probably the type of tool that would be able to be refined enough to pick up so-called "psychic" transmissions.
I'd like to believe this is all possible and exists, and that we are able to grow these skills and use them for a great purpose. But I also doubt it at the same time.
Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for [that day will not come] until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessnessa is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Cytra
And that is the known part. Cell phones set up oscillations in certain "frequencies" in specific parts of the spectrum but I don't think they are tools to detect anything. Although I hear of inventions like ghost boxes and stuff that random sample multiple stations and also of EMF signals from beyond, etc. I have trouble with a lot of that.
One thing I noticed about my sensitives mentor, when he goes up into the archangelic realms he increases his "vibrations" or frequency. I'm editing my post to say that another teacher would hear rings in his ears when there were energy fluctuations around him and it was time to "pay attention" to spirit. The ringing or synchronicities are more like finger snap or an "ah-hum" from the angels if you know what I mean. Something's coming up!
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
reply to post by Azjazzer8
I'd like to believe this is all possible and exists, and that we are able to grow these skills and use them for a great purpose. But I also doubt it at the same time.
Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for [that day will not come] until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessnessa is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
If somebody tells you that man has 'latent psychic powers', and you have experiences which seem to validate this, are you actually proving the truth of that statement or are you potentially proving a lie as truth ? If that someone has raised your desires for such things to be true, would not your own personal experiences lead you to conclude that what you WANT to be true, is true? The tree in the garden was made pleasing, but it was not perceived as pleasing until the serpent came along and sold its supposed benefits. Those supposed benefits were appealing to the inequity within man, and from these heightened desires, the tree and it's fruit we're then perceived as pleasing to the senses. So much so that man was able to conclude that God was lying and the serpent was telling the truth. Nothing is changed today at the end of the Millenium when Satan is released to deceive the nations yet again. It's tactic and methodology will not change. I'd listen to that nagging doubt which is trying to pull you back from the brink of destruction. Jesus did not use his senses...he did not judge by what he saw. He stated that this world would be given only one sign, and it was. When He stated that only a wicked generation seeks after signs, can you not perceive that millions are chasing after these false signs and wonders which are proving a lie to be truth in their minds? That they are NOT contemplating that these signs and wonders are not what they are being sold as, i.e. latent psychic powers but rather something else that you would shun if you knew the truth ? Satan is a liar and murderer. To this end, it will never tell you this. Ever. All that it can do is appeal to your desires and love of iniquity and sin. Shunning these through obeying Our God's commands, keeps one safe from these lies because you come to love the Truth, not the lie.
I am confused.
Yeah I think he's saying that this gifts are from the devil. My take on that is that it's probably the "devil" that planted that idea so that sensitives could be persecuted and kept under control, so that they may remain in power. Jesus was probably the most amazing psychic to ever walk this earth, and they killed him too.