Blizzard Alert:Northeast Snowstorm could be among the worst of alltime

There is a difference between 8ft of snow in a SPARSELY POPULATED provinces and another city which has only a mere 2ft of snow but is DENSELY POPULATED.

In the provinces which are sparsely populated, where travel is not necessary, most can hunker down in cabins for themselves and barnyards for their livestock. As it is winter season, not much is growing anyway.

However in the densely populated cities, just a mere 2 ft of snow may mean catastrohy to many, as all travel may cease or become difficult, shutting down on social services - schools, health, offices, electricity, etc, and economic activities. Worse if the emergency responder resources are fully stretched to save lives trapped in homes, bunkers or road.

No mortal controls the weather. We can only mitigate the effects of weather by early warnings, taking all precautions and preparedness as well as deal with its aftermath.

The weather will not last, and when it is over, the aftermath will be the major concern. Tempers will flare with shortages and inconveniences, and even unrealistic expectations of emergency services.

The best approach to aftermath is not the overly reliance upon emergency services, but rather ourselves and community, of what each able bodied can do for another to lessen the aftermath's impact.

Nothing heroic or spectacular, but just simple acts such as lending blankets and food to your neighbour caught unprepared. But it is those simple acts that when extrapoliated into hundreds of thousands indidivual acts, it becomes a major thing to help lessen the aftermath's impact, leaving none behind.

Take care and good luck all.....

It looks like quite a snow storm. Now I hope the state and federal Governments leave just one natural event to be one without using it as an excuse for the next big crisis to get all worked up with. To the extend the states may have been unprepared, it's to their own state gov's they need to look. All these years of mild mild winters have thenm cutting back on snow removal, salt stock piles and snow equipment investments. As if it wouldn't return to a normal winter of hard storms at some point.

This does sound bad but not that much worse than 95/96 where 20-30+ inches ran from Indiana to the Atlantic and solid up into Canada. I'll never forget that one as I was literally pushing snow with my bumper as one of the last trucks out of Indiana before I-70 was closed to all traffic....and that was the bumper of an 18 wheel truck.

When did every bad storm become a disaster and every event, a crisis? We're in trouble in the next winter with traditional and normal patterns. It'll mean snow and icy roads across a majority of the 3 or so months....not a rarity like it's become in this mild cycle.

my friends are telling me on long island there are many many cars stranded still on lots of roads, and many main roads still have not been plowed

I wonder if the towns and counties are running out of money ?

I don't remember the 2 feet we got in 2011 being this bad as far as recovery

Just got power back. Most of RI is still without it, unfortunately, and it's still very cold. The worst part of this storm wasn't the 2ish feet of snow, it was the 60mph wind gusts that ruined substations and took down lines. Very glad that the worst of it is over.

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You have a point there.

This is from 2010. Probably had more then than they do now.

Snowstorm has LI officials digging their pockets

The snowstorm that virtually paralyzed Long Island Wednesday has local officials digging deep into their pockets to pay for road clearing, even as more snowfall may be on the horizon.

Suffolk County allocated a snow removal budget of $2.7 million for 2010, but had to borrow some money from that pot to help cover the cost of December's blizzard, a $1.7-million storm for the county.

www.newsday.com...

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Glad to hear you have power back and glad the worst of it is over.

Stay warm and safe.

Originally posted by greatpiino
Just got power back. Most of RI is still without it, unfortunately, and it's still very cold. The worst part of this storm wasn't the 2ish feet of snow, it was the 60mph wind gusts that ruined substations and took down lines. Very glad that the worst of it is over.

I'm in Rhode Island and one of the lucky ones who didn't lose power. I was amazed. LOT of snow out there!
I will pray for all who have been affected. I hope our homeless people made it to shelters.

does anyone know if this is coming towards the midwest?? like indiana??

Originally posted by Night Star

I'm in Rhode Island and one of the lucky ones who didn't lose power. I was amazed. LOT of snow out there!

I will pray for all who have been affected. I hope our homeless people made it to shelters.

Funny story: I was typing a reply to you at around 2am about how I was amazed that I hadn't lost power. Halfway through typing it, cosmic irony kicked me in the crotch and left me in the dark. Lesson learned.

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ok..i grew up in Mass. we used to get storms like this EVERY year...now not so much, maybe every other year.

really not sure where all the sensationalism is coming from or why...but, i will gaurantee you all 2 things.

1) you will hear the same b.s. next year(just as in the past years)
2)i wont say "i told you so!", ill just read and laugh quietly to myself...

Two feet of snow is fun, we look forward to storms of bigger than that in the winter. It gives us something to talk to others ago that is different than the same ol same ol thing. You can start a conversation with a complete stranger after a storm like this. It brings people together.....Unless you blow your snow on the neighbors sidewalk or driveway.

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Sorry, don't feel sorry for them at all.

BE PREPARED. When push comes to shove, the government isn't going to be there for you and your loved ones. Only you, so get your preps ready for events like this as best as you can.

Originally posted by owtFsink
reply to post by riverwild

 

ok..i grew up in Mass. we used to get storms like this EVERY year...now not so much, maybe every other year.

really not sure where all the sensationalism is coming from or why...but, i will gaurantee you all 2 things.

1) you will hear the same b.s. next year(just as in the past years)
2)i wont say "i told you so!", ill just read and laugh quietly to myself...

This is the first reasonable thing I've heard all day about this storm.
Media coverage and over-hyping of storms seems to have vastly increased in recent years; ever since Katrina it seems like it is every single year now that they are hyping some new big storm, whether it's really that big or not. Just look at Hurricane Sanday; it was a weak category 1 storm at best, and they acted like it was the apocalypse. Methinks the media has just found a new cash cow.

Originally posted by SilentKoala
Methinks the media has just found a new cash cow.

oh its not just, nor is it just the media.

retail shelves emptied, grocery markets packed...and of coarse local and state budgets will be inflated to "prepare" for next years "SNOWPOCALYPSE"

kinda funny how every year these governments always seem to run out of funds to manage ...

Originally posted by SilentKoala



This is the first reasonable thing I've heard all day about this storm.
Media coverage and over-hyping of storms seems to have vastly increased in recent years; ever since Katrina it seems like it is every single year now that they are hyping some new big storm, whether it's really that big or not. Just look at Hurricane Sanday; it was a weak category 1 storm at best, and they acted like it was the apocalypse. Methinks the media has just found a new cash cow.

the administration wants badly to pull the population through this blizzard with oodles of government provided services and cash lavished on the population...


the (potential) 10 Billion to be spent by the regime/administration will 'prove' beyond a doubt that the Republicans are cold-hearted and uncompassionate about alieving the pain the blizzards wreak on the Homeland under the Obama watchful eyes... because he & the progressive (socialist committee mindset) have their fingers on the pulse on america/Americans no matter what the cost


It is all politics... And not actual reality that is transpiring

in addition i have recently learned that a large portion of Scituate MA. is under water from the storm surge and without power as well.

srry for not providing any links but xbox doesnt allow some functions.

I live in eastern Suffolk County Long Island and we got about 2 1/2 feet. I know for a fact that not a single plow has been around my area. They are too busy trying to clear the main roads like the LIE, Sunrise Highway and Rt. 347. So many cars got stranded out there, including police and other rescue vehicles. It's nuts.

I think half the problem was because in the morning we got rain. So most jobs, including mine were like "oh just come to work its only rain". Everyone should have just stayed home and stayed off the roads. But low and behold, come rush hour when everyone is on their way home, the weather went from rain to almost white out blizzard conditions.

We just got a "Red Alert" phone call from the Town of Brookhaven basically ORDERING people to stay off the roads. Plus tonight we are expected to get high winds. All of these frozen trees are going to snap like toothpicks, taking out power lines with them.

Hopefully this will be it for us as far as snow goes... I hate snow! Took me about 7 hours to clear out the driveway this morning. Thankfully a helpful neighbor had a plow and lent a hand.

Originally posted by Spookycolt
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Yes but your more prepared to deal with it up there and don't have nearly the amount of infrastructure that can be affected.

Life doesn't really stop if your forest gets blanketed in snow.

For those that are living in the NE take your precautions and stay safe. Buy some extra Hot Chocolate!

I thought the motto here was deny ignorance? I remember back when I was kid, about 45 years ago, two wankers showed up in July with Skidoos on a trailer on the back of their truck. They were from Texas. I had swam across the lake at our cottage to go to the store and buy some ice-cream and when I walked passed them, while they were getting gas, one of them asked me, "Where's the snow, I thought there was snow here?" I laughed and asked them if they had a map, which they did and proceeded to show them how to get to the west side of Hudson Bay north of the tundra line. Yeah, you can deny ignorance some of the time LOL.

As far as the comment that we have less infrastructure, that is probably true, however, our infrastructure is just as important to us as yours is to you, Do we have beautful forests, lakes and rivers that have tons of snow dumped on them annually? Yep, damn right we do. Are we generally prepared for winter? Yep, I think so. Is Boston on about the same latitude, as say Toronto, that gets a crapload of snow? Yep, I think so. Should Boston be prepared for snow like Toronto? Yep I think so.

If the city administrators of Boston aren't prepared should we consider them just plain stupid? Well, I'll leave that up to you to determine. Two feet.... pfffffft, grow a pair or at least rent some.

Cheers - Dave

The Plymouth nuclear power plant shut down Friday night because it lost external power.
Source Cape Cod Times
According to this article the plant was operating at less than full capacity:

“The plant was at reduced power at the time of the shutdown because of a leaking reactor vessel safety relief valve, and it is likely (plant owner) Entergy will address that prior to returning the plant to service,” Sheehan said.

The plant has diesel to run back-up generators for 5 days...

ETA: It looks as if off-site power has been partially restored to the plant, but no mention of when the reactor will come back online. Boston Herald