Two Mistakenly Shot During Frantic LAPD Manhunt

Just an observation, why is the passenger side riddle with head shot's while the driver side only a few? They knew he was alone but still focused their aim on the passenger side of vehicle!

Originally posted by MmmPie
Why would they shoot at the passenger side of the truck?


Looks like they wanted to kill anyone in that truck, regardless of who was on the other side of their senseless shooting.


Is anyone surprised though? It's the LAPD/CHP.


Also, just about anyone can go down to the academy and pass themselves off as a cop. Pass some tests, show you're fit enough to run around a bit, and bam!...on the force. More testing needs to be done to see if these people are capable of ACTUALLY doing the job...RIGHT.

edit on 8-2-2013 by MmmPie because: (no reason given)

Actually there are psychological tests and panels all law enforcement must pass nowadays.
Wanna know something neat about that??
Guess when policing problems started to get out of hand, yup right about when psych became the benchmark.
They only want type A hard core "WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW? BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD!" types now.
Compassion is for the fire department...
But yeah I agree, any sociopath can get a gun and badge nowadays.

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No witnesses

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
Starting to look a lot like Iraq...

...shoot first ask questions later.

C...

It looks as if the story was fabricated. I dont understand how you could make a mistake like that. The radio did not tell them what model and color the truck is, so they just shoot at every truck? Non the less from behind, with out identifying or threat because their backs are facing the bullet marks. Makes no sense how could you mistake, light blue for black? I dont think it was a mistake maybe these people wear close with the rouge officer.

If your a cop how do you not know what a Toyota Tacoma looks like, its a very popular distinctive truck. Not only that 2 police forces broke the law. You cant just shoot at a car because you think a suspect is in it, you cant even do it knowing that a suspect is in the car.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
The cops must really want this guy dead and fast. They are shooting first and asking questions later. I would suggest anyone that drives the same make vehicle as the suspect and lives around LA to be careful

The cops have now attacked and shot two cars that turned out not to be the suspect. The first car was two women, the second was a car that was rammed and then shot at (don't know who was in that, but it wasn't the suspect).

Its ironic that he made a manifesto calling out corruption and poor training and the LAPD go and verify it by shooting at any car that is the same make as the suspects. I mean how do you mistake 2 hispanic women for a big black guy armed to the teeth?

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Almost seems like they want this guy dead

www.liveleak.com...

Over 90 shots were fired into the 2 trucks in the matter of minutes. One Iraqi war veteran said " I felt like I was back in Baghdad". He could not believe what he was witnessing. He also said " We used more restrain on terrorist then the police today".

Yeah they want him dead, they don`t want him going to court and telling everything he knows.

Why are we paying so much tax money for a police force if this is an example of the best that they can do lets save some money and go get a bunch of bums off the street corners and give them guns and badges, even they can shoot up a truck full of innocent people and we won`t have to pay them half of what we are paying for the keystone cops to do it.

you can`t demand respect at the end of a gun you have to EARN respect the law enforcement in this country is a disgrace it`s no wonder that people don`t respect them anymore.

I appeal to all, to Doner's family, relatives and friends, to advise him to surrender.

He is a cop and child killer. I know that one is innocent till proven guilty, but there are many valid reasons that laid the murders to him.

Surrender up, and face a fair trial as all americans have, an entitlement under the Constitution.

He may have greivences, and I do comprehend them, espacially for soldiers whom had served with honor, then joined the police forces.

It is a different culture, one from war where enemies are clearly define and heirachy often far more honest, then the civilian police group where the enemies are less defined in their everyday wear and commonalities, even within mis-managed govt depts with a culture of its own, grey areas, to pacify and serve all.

But there are legal avenues for one to report upon if the chain of command refuses or even interdict a whistleblower. Vengence and Killing another, more so innocent ones including those whom are doing their duty, is dead wrong. Once first blood is shed, there can be.....no turning back......on both sides.

If it is justice and the whistleblowing on the LAPD he wants, he can still surrender, just not in LA whereby he would be summararily shot and executed, or even in self serving DC. There are other states that he can depend on whereby no prejudice will be the course for those whom only seeks for honesty and integrity.

Precious humans had their lives snuffed out, and the price must be paid. There can be sympathy and compassion, but the killings must end, and it can only come from surrendering and redemption, and others will make sure that TRUE justice is served. This is America, not Iran or Russia whereby justice and rule of law are jokes by the rulers.

Obviously those police must be charged with attempted murder. This shooting was in no way justified.

Agreed, it looks like the directive has gone out to "shoot to kill" this SUSPECT, no quarter.

Originally posted by Tardacus
Yeah they want him dead, they don`t want him going to court and telling everything he knows.

Why are we paying so much tax money for a police force

Because if you dont the same mafia police force will knock down your door.

People post topics on ATS about police brutality all the time. Normally, a few members that are police officers themselves come forward and offer their perspective.

In all the threads related to this topic, I haven't seen one cop come forward to throw his .2 in.

Not. One.

Anyone else notice that? Things that make you go "hmmmm..."

A couple videos giving a summary on this.

The bottom video claims this is a hoax.

I am only adding it because he gives a good timeline of events with a map.

I am NOT agreeing with his hoax theory.

Manhunt for ex-LAPD cop Christopher Jordan Dorner continues as death toll remains at 3 as his burned up vehicle is discovered near Big Bear, Calif.

The vehicle of the ex-LAPD cop was discovered burned up after earlier cases of mistaken identity led to look-alike vehicles being shot at by police. It is believed Dorner tried to escape to Mexico, but the trip was foiled when a rope got caught in a boat propeller.

Former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner is a suspect in the killings of Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, who were found shot to death...

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As you can see from the photos, I guess surrender is not an option.
It's my guess that word is out that there will be no trial if possible, too embarassing.

OP. I was correct. I can't find the story, but officers did fire on a second car that turned out not to be the suspect.
Maybe they are not talking about it because they are in damage control mode and no one was injured.

I found the info for th second time on a reddit thread.

Thu. (5:15AM): A patrol unit assigned to protect a different target misidentified the blue truck with the two women delivering newspapers. Reportedly the headlights were off and officers opened fire in rapid bursts, a brief pause and then more bursts (according to witnesses). No details known if they identified themselves first. Both women were hit, one twice in the back and one in the arm. Both are expected to recover. Source - KCAL9 News

Thu. (5:20 AM): A few blocks from the first mistaken-identity shooting, police were responding to the shots fired call and came across another similar truck to the suspect's. There was a collision to the rear of the vehicle and police fired three shots (at least) into the windshield. The driver was luckily uninjured and not involved. Story here. Source - KCAL9 News

Thu. (1:41 PM): A burned-out truck matching the description of a getaway vehicle owned by triple-murder suspect was found in the San Bernardino mountains (Big Bear). [edit: CONFIRMED to be his truck]. Source - KCAL9 News

Thu. (~4:00 PM): Large tactical operation going on in the San Bernardino Mountains north of LA (Big Bear) involving SWAT and other agencies as they scan the area. This is the primary search area right now, given the vehicle found. Agencies have now demanded air news teams not show the search locations, which two local news organizations called an "unusual request", despite the logic behind it. Source - KCAL9 News

This story mentions BOTH mistaken identity shootings: link

He also states in his manifesto that that he has sa-7 manpads which are anti aircraft hand held rocket launchers and a 50 cal for anti vehicle.

I am starting to wonder if his manifesto hasn't been manipulated. Maybe it's just his insanity, but there are parts that are pure propaganda and irrelevent to the rest (of course there are parts where he talks about his favorite actors too).

For example:

If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don't give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That's bullsh*t because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants Read more: www.myfoxla.com...

He is answering the arguments made by 2nd amendment supporters, but I think people in the military could answer and correct him. I don't believe what he says about the military rarely utilizing the select fire function. Also, he talks about having manpad rocket launchers. Definitely can't get those legally.

I considered making a thread on this, but I don't have any evidence whatsoever. Just a hunch. Consider how anon manipulated that Anders (norway) manifesto to refuse people a pure version. Now note how all news outlets are pushing this manifesto for the public to read in ways I have never seen before. Is it possible that the manifesto has been manipulated by law enforcement or the MSM?

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Dohner didn't kill any children. He is a suspect in the killing of Monica Quan, 28, the daughter of his attorney. Let's try to stick with the facts, what few we do have.

Also, this man will NEVER see the inside of a court room, little less a fair trial. The police want him dead, not tried in a court of law.

can anyone make this stuff end? i mean why police is behaving like this in every place of the world?? 15 years ago wasn't like this.

Within a department as large as the LAPD there has got to be some form of accountability and I don't mean the Chief coming out and offering the obligatory - "I'm the leader and I accept responsibility for the Department" crap either.

The law abiding citizens of Los Angeles and across the entire country have to demand unbiased outside investigations with non-negotiable deadlines for submitting the findings, and punishments to the full extent allowed by the law when a crime of this magnitude occurs.

If it is determined that at any point during the investigation there is misconduct (cover-ups etc), then heads need to roll from where it starts to where ever it leads. This is nothing less than organized crime and it has to stop!

What kind of world are we leaving our children and our grandchildren? It's high time that we as a people wake up to what's happening on a daily basis and begin creating an infrastructure that embodies a safe and prosperous nation - the way it was intended to be.

As someone once said, "Never miss an opportunity to take advantage of a national incident". And it seems like mainstream media is only focused on the topic of taking the guns out of law abiding citizens hands and there's never any mention of how to remove those weapons already in the hands of the real criminals. Especially when it turns to be unstable law enforcement officers.

I'm deeply saddened by the violence levelled at those innocent individuals and my sincerest heart felt sympathies go out to each and every one of them and their families.

It has gotten serious!

Question for you gun knowledgeable folks out there, i have lived in LA most of my life and i have NEVER seen police equipped with Silencer or Flash suppressors. Are these flash suppressor they are using? If they are silencers or flash suppressors that is pretty strange because i didn't think police could use them? Anyone know?

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
Starting to look a lot like Iraq...

...shoot first ask questions later.

C...

Funny.....I really would have thought that a part of thier training would have involved running plates on suspected perps vehicles.....

Apparently these are some of LA's finest

Originally posted by g146541
These cops who played shoot em up at the ok corral are in deep doo doo.

If deep doo doo means that they will be suspended with pay and temporarily reassigned desk jobs, you might be right.

LAPD covers their own.

The only difference between the LAPD and the Grape Street Crips or MS-13 is the tax payer funding.