'Dark patch' visible in brain scans of killers and rapists, neurologist claims

"A Dark area"
Yep, thats the bit thats been watching too much tv.

What a load of NWO crap.

Originally posted by dominicus

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
remeber this?

I remember. There is also an ATS member who has that as his avatar who says Christianity is the only way and all other paths and philosophies are the work of the devil

Anything that leads you away from God is the work of devils. You fight evil with love, so don't worry about a witch hunt or anything .

Originally posted by jiggerj
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I watched a documentary on something of this nature a while ago. Of course, my first thought was for those that believe our consciousness comes not from the brain, but out there somewhere. How can a brain determine someone's evil intent if that intent comes from the universal consciousness?

in the physical world it manifests through the brain, is how I look at it- this is how it is in this dimension

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It is me or just the fact that this type of tagging comes from a "German Doctor".

yeah, lets open the camps for the "Dark Patch" evil criminals in the making and put them in the Gas chambers. They have no room in society, line up to get your brain scan people, just standard procedure.

They should scan DICK Cheneys brain. Bet his dark patch is the biggest.

Originally posted by jiggerj
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I watched a documentary on something of this nature a while ago. Of course, my first thought was for those that believe our consciousness comes not from the brain, but out there somewhere. How can a brain determine someone's evil intent if that intent comes from the universal consciousness?

The brain "thinks" on an animal level. The mind "thinks" on a higher (moral/ethical) level. The juxtaposition is in the struggle for the higher mind to control the animal brain. This is what is known as "impulse control" and other such notions.

Were we to relinquish ourselves to our impulses, we would violently attack things seen as threats. Of course, this could be anything to a being that has higher thought, as just about everything can threaten something you hold dear. But consider the disdain that culture and society has for people who don't tame their inner beast. Those with gross sexual proclivities, or the yokels who live in the wilderness.

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Secretly, I harbor information from my experience in different virtual worlds. I keep it to myself since it's only derived from virtual worlds. But I'll share it here. Basically, there're some people who can wheel and deal and even when they know that their wheeling and dealing might harm others, they don't care. They justify it various ways, like saying "It's just a game!" But deep down in my heart of hearts, I know that it's not. These people lack a certain type of empathy or maybe they lack it in full. I think that the way they play the game reflects on who they're behind the mask they wear.

I'm not saying I'm better or that I'm a good person. I'm not. I have flaws too. And I'm only referring to people I've met in games and in virtual worlds. It's not damning information by any means.

It's the difference between a person who knows that they're cheating or that they're robbing another person of their virtual money and stops and a person who doesn't stop.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by jiggerj
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I watched a documentary on something of this nature a while ago. Of course, my first thought was for those that believe our consciousness comes not from the brain, but out there somewhere. How can a brain determine someone's evil intent if that intent comes from the universal consciousness?

The brain "thinks" on an animal level. The mind "thinks" on a higher (moral/ethical) level. The juxtaposition is in the struggle for the higher mind to control the animal brain. This is what is known as "impulse control" and other such notions.

Were we to relinquish ourselves to our impulses, we would violently attack things seen as threats. Of course, this could be anything to a being that has higher thought, as just about everything can threaten something you hold dear. But consider the disdain that culture and society has for people who don't tame their inner beast. Those with gross sexual proclivities, or the yokels who live in the wilderness.

Hi BFFT. Good to hear from you. I must admit I think your premise (and a few others here) isn't fair. What you're implying is that we think on two different levels, with one level generated by the brain, the other generated by some universal consciousness. For me, if the brain has the capacity to formulate even the simplest thought, then it is capable of thought - period. Why would the brain evolve the ability to think smalltime, but not bigtime?

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True.

I remember watching a program I think on OPB or Discovery probably a decade ago or more about brain imagining of criminals. They had found that certain areas were different.

I don't recall the details since it was a long time ago.

Now if only they'd use their scientific prowess to figure out what causes that part of the brain to "go dark", and we can start actually addressing an issue!


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Originally posted by theAnswer1111
S&F. This quote disturbed me the most:

A growing number of psychologists "believe that psychopathy, like autism, is a distinct neurological condition—one that can be identified in children as young as 5," the New York Times reported in May.

My thought is that certain products of TPTB like flu-shots, anti-depressants and ADHD medications perpetuate psychopathic behavior and autism.

This is highly disturbing, especially in a person like me. How long before we get the link to psychopathy and autism together?

If anything comes of this, I have a feeling that it will go downhill very quickly. What are they going to start doing, scan young children?

"Well Mrs. Bentley, the results are in. Looks like we have ourselves a potential little rapist here! I'm prescribing a lifetime of mind-numbing medication for this little scamp."

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Souls aren't evil, at least not when they entered the tests. But they enter into body suits, that are half light squares and half dark squares like the rest of this universe seems to be, and we have to overcome the dark squares in us.

When you factor in a criminally insane elite group that has worked with dark side energies for countless thousands or millions of years, depending on how many cycles they're really hiding to dominate and enslave this planet, who run starvation, wars, child abuse, extreme poverty, drugs and prostitution and who create slums, scarcity and ugly violent media, this is done for the purpose of breaking children.

I'm not sure you can you can pick it up on an xray however. And i know who I blame for most of it. A person rapes, I blame the Rockerfellers, Duponts, Rothchilds, Royal Families and our leaders. Because if they weren't working to harm children and destroy lives this world would be incredible. The Venus Project, abundance and sanity for all, good examples and wonderful opportunies to learn and grow. They dig the pits for others and some of us are here to, at the end, make certain higher ups rescue and heal people, and straighten it out so they don't have to keep repeating endlessly. But that the controllers are out of here and in some heavy duty counseling centers and some of us are here to make sure no demons and hellzones get people because this betrayal is over, its time to heal and love and restore people and get the bad guys into treatment. That is my every single day of my life prayer, and nothing but.

I thought that this was interesting.
news.yahoo.com...
"Kent Kiehl, associate professor of psychology at the University of New Mexico, for one, used a mobile MRI unit to conduct brain scans on 2,000 prison inmates in Wisconsin and New Mexico."
Statistically, this is a relevant number of patients. However, I caution the manipulation of the readings. Can anyone that Big Brother dislikes, suddenly grow a dark patch?

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Dr. Amen is well known for this type of research, which he started doing years ago in conjunction with the California Dept of Corrections - studying the brain scans of serious criminals, those on death row, etc. He said they did indeed find brain deficiencies/abnormalities in those people whose behavior was most offensive to societal norms/expectations. This was shared during a seminar he was doing at our church. He was in a way, sharing what his many years of experience discovering what brain trauma or abnormalities do to a person's behavior, temperament, personality, aggression level, social skills, decision making, etc. could show us about those around us. He wanted each of us to see our fellow man for what we really cannot see - what really could be driving them might well be something they have no control over - and yes, as someone mentioned, there are cases of people being seriously altered in what they normally would or wouldn't do by things such as a brain tumor, or brain injury. I was helpful to me that I heard this lecture, as a few years later, my own son had a bad fall on his head which left him forever changed, within days I began to notice he had a totally different temperament, mood, reaction to things, he was no longer the happy go lucky child he'd always been, suddenly he was dark and everything was tragic and he began to have terrible fits. He'd always been my happy little monkey boy. The only thing I could surmise was that the impact to his head had somehow traumatized the brain enough to cause these changes, as nothing was really found by doctors later, although they don't bother to do an MRI without serious symptoms of brain issues which he didn't have, just changes that persisted. Some of the fits improved over time, but I still always wonder what he would have been like if he hadn't had that concussion or whatever it was. It also has helped me understand some other people in my life who have serious problems dealing, who I also know have had repeated head traumas. It also makes me horrified when things happen to my teen boys now that involve getting beat on by other kids, possibly causing them further head trauma. Every time I see those "FAIL" type videos online of people falling and hitting their heads in various types of accidents, I cringe, wondering what, if anything, it could be doing to change their life from that point on.

Dr. Amen discussed this a lot, too. He said he'd do brain scans and could see a certain part of a person's brain that wasn't firing right, an area that may have suffered some trauma in youth, or during sports, or an accident. Usually this would lead him to interview them and try to find the cause of this problem, and the person would confess that they had indeed suffered this or that hit to the head one or more times - sometimes where the head was hit would cause different problems. They were obviously already in his clinic because there was a problem they were seeking help with, but imagine how great it must be to finally get some clear understanding of it all.
Dr. Amen would then find a treatment or therapy or medication to help normalize the brain, even a supplement such as fish oil helped some, along with other things. I really like what this doctor does, because how many thousands of psychiatrists and psychologists are out there "treating" patients blindly without any actual data, scans, pictures or brain activity, nothing to go by but the hit or miss lists of answers to questions or vague symptoms they are presented with? I call this smarter medicine. Here's a link to the gallery of SPECT imaging scans done at Dr. Amen's clinic over the years, showing the different abnormal brain activity found in different disorders: www.amenclinics.com...

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If i see you have posted somewhere I am always excited to read it. You ask such fundamental questions, and it really makes one stop to think.

When i said "think", i used quotation marks for a reason. Your brain isn't thinking. To use an analogy:

The brain is like a modem, or maybe a NIC. Its role is to send and recieve information to/from where ever (some call it the Universal Mind, some call it the Overself....all manner of new age sounding terms for what mind truly is). Like any device, it is loaded with firmware that ensures the proper coding to send/receive the information as well as provide crucial internal functions (info packet debugging, etc).

When your brain is "thinking", what is basically happening is simple script is executing within its firmware. Is this thought? Or is it simple biological reaction, hardwired in?

Consider this: when you get an erection, is it a conscious thought that causes it? The brain is telling the biological processes to send more blood, etc, etc....is that a hardwired process? The process is obviously running through the brain, as it derives from what you see/smell/feel. So, while the brain is doing its thing, it really isn't thinking.

I am of the camp that believes that mind exists outside the human body. That we access mind via a device, which I believe is within the brain (i use "device" loosely, as it am speaking of biological matter here). I have many reasons for believing this, most convincing of which is the result of hemispherectomies. One kid actually went on to complete high school and graduate college after having half his brain removed.

Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by dominicus

 

I watched a documentary on something of this nature a while ago. Of course, my first thought was for those that believe our consciousness comes not from the brain, but out there somewhere. How can a brain determine someone's evil intent if that intent comes from the universal consciousness?

In my view of the universe the brain acts like a radio transeiver, tuned to only a small frequency of consiousness. So change the brain and you change the frequency of conciousness tuned into.

Make sence?

Korg.

Here's your peer-review tothetenthpower, utilizing a different brain-scan approach (qEEG brainscan to detect brainwave patterns)

www.brainm.com...

Now, the ethical question is do we just lockup these potential threats prematurely, or do we give them the opportunity to retrain their brains using neurofeedback? Here's a study done on 13 individuals, where 12 showed 50% - or better - improvements in psychopathic personality profiling after 3 months of training.

www.braintreatmentchicago.com...

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I worked in a mental hospital for about 5 years. While I worked admissions, I often would get pulled to one of the 3 behavioral modificaiton units we had. In behavioral mod, you basically have more strict interaction protocols that reinforce specific behaviors while stifling other, less desirable behaviors.

What always struck me as odd was that the programs were meant to push people more towards a standarized notion of "normal". I bristled at the notion that I was attempting to modify someones behavior by with holding things from them, or by rewarding them with something they treasured (like candy, or a cigarette). Rarely did they treasure something beneficial to them....which kind of bothered me.

In the process I noticed the above flaw (motivating the notion of behavior = unhealthy habit) along with the obvious flaw: front line staff often are not trained, nor screened appropriately, to do this type of work.

The notion of an entire science of behavioral modification should give us all a moment of pause.

Originally posted by TheToastmanCometh

Originally posted by theAnswer1111
S&F. This quote disturbed me the most:

A growing number of psychologists "believe that psychopathy, like autism, is a distinct neurological condition—one that can be identified in children as young as 5," the New York Times reported in May.

My thought is that certain products of TPTB like flu-shots, anti-depressants and ADHD medications perpetuate psychopathic behavior and autism.

This is highly disturbing, especially in a person like me. How long before we get the link to psychopathy and autism together?

They won't be linked together. The two conditions have significantly different patterns of brainwave activities, and to make the suggestion they would be linked together would be the same as saying that the flu and a thyroid disorder would show up the same in a blood profile. It just won't happen. I've been researching the use of qEEGs to detect different mental illness, and using neurofeedback to treat them, for over 6 years. This had led to my own issues being helped, and my plans are to start the long road towards a masters/PhD to become a licensed neurofeedback therapist.

To me - this type of patterned detection, and treatment methodologies, is the future for psychology.

To the poster who said that consciousness comes from outside the brain. That really isn't true from what is being discovered in various neurological studies. There is some great information available on research being done on neural networks (taken from cultures of rat brains) connected up to special chips, that then are plugged in to a flight simulator and the small neurological tissue sample is able to fly plains in conditions that seasoned pilots would have issues with.

Our brain acts as a filter for the world. We don't see with our eyes, for example, they take pictures and relay those pictures to our brain, where the visual processing centers of our brain compile the individual pictures into a smooth movie, and that information is processed into what we "see". This is true for all of the senses - that what we understand as how we see/taste/touch/smell/hear is actually a complex computing process of interpreting the world around us through multiple systems, passing that information through decision making processes and finally sending new signals back out with directions on how-to respond. When an area of the brain is acting in an abnormal manner, either intake, judgement or output, we see people act in abnormal ways.

Fix the abnormal area of the brain via retraining (therapy, drugs, neurofeedback) and you change the abnormal behaviors.