LaRouche Claiming Federal Court has Indicted Obama on Serious Charges

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Guys, here is the link storm is trying to post:

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Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Guys, here is the link storm is trying to post:

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Do you think that is what they are talking about?

thanks for the help.

About the recess appointments? Could be. But really only if something nefarious came out of those appoinments that they uncovered. I don't know, to be honest. Reserving judgement on this, as indictments are posted publically, unless sealed. Usually only sealed in cases of minors. Ie: molestation cases, to protect the names of the underaged.

A federal grand jury indictment of the president would seemingly only be sealed to protect a person or classified information. Not something I would profess to have any knowledge about. It would sure be huge news, even if sealed, if it was done though.

So. I will wait to see.

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Only the house of representatives can bring charges against a sitting president. So this is bull puckey! Know your laws people.

Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by TrueAmerican

 

Only the house of representatives can bring charges against a sitting president. So this is bull puckey! Know your laws people.

Jay Alan Sekulow was on the brief for amicus curiae The Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, John Boehner, in support of petitioner. John N. Raudabaugh entered an appearance.

Is Boehner no longer the Speaker of the House? If so, it would seem that the House of Representatives IS involved!

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
reply to post by Advantage

 

Wait, you said "common law" grand jurry?

Isn't that where a bunch of regular joes just get together and claim they have legal juristiction? AKA the "natrual law" people that are also obsessed with Admiralty Law?

That would be like me trying to perform a "citizens arrest" on my district attorney. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Yep... thats what I said.. because thats what the article said. I was trying to see if the OP was the same thing as was reported yrs ago.. 2009. To see if the Diaper was trying it again. WHen this happened the first time I was still working at the PA's office and asked our PA about it. His opinion was that it IS a legal method, but wont fly when used in the manner it was being used at that time in 2009... and in this climate. who knows. It was set up to superceded all other legal avenues and entities.. as a form of backup against tyrrany.
Here is the method of a "common law" indictment
1215.org...

Despite the fact that the state and federal constitutions still acknowledge the common law as the ultimate law system, people everywhere are conditioned to believe that the statutory law and codes are the only source of law. The only remaining common law term generally known among the public is "common law marriage." The common law grand jury is now dormant only because of the public ignorance of its powers that supercede all other government entities, including the modern statutorily defined grand jury. Awakening the grand jury will not be graciously accepted by the government. A strategy is needed to reintroduce this fundamental protection against tyranny and injustice.

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Hey LG

Obama Confrontation Sharpening Over DC Court of Appeals Ruling
larouchepac.com...

On Jan. 25 the D.C. Federal Circuit Court of Appeals shook the Obama White House with a ruling that NerObama's "recess" appointments, based on his own determinations of when the Senate was or should be in recess, violated the Constitutional separation of powers and were illegal and unconstitutional. The Court went further and defined a recess appointment as requiring that the vacancy being filled have appeared during a Senate recess.

The same day, as Lyndon LaRouche anticipated the future implications of this for breaking Obama's claimed abuses of power, constitutional lawyer Bruce Fein told Politico that those abuses themselves were turned into a powerful boomerang against the White House.

"In the past, executive authority has expanded, and expanded, and expanded, so they [Obama's team] thought: 'Let's go for it,'" said Fine, who had opposed Obama's power to make the appointments and his other abuses such as unilateral war on Libya. "Now, they're far worse off than before, because the lines are drawn much more narrowly, in terms of what anyone thought they were previous to this ruling. It's an overreach, and he winds up now worse off than where he began."

Politico quotes a labor lawyer, Denise Keyser of Ballard Spahr in New Jersey, agreeing: "The loss is way bigger than the battle he [Obama] thought he was fighting.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Forgive my cynicism but I expect them to bust Obama whenever they get around to busting Bush and the army of insiders behind our downfall.

In other words, in our dreams.

Would be awesome to be wrong..

HAHA OMG! Yes I agree 100% people are so blind about all these crooks!

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Forgive my cynicism but I expect them to bust Obama whenever they get around to busting Bush and the army of insiders behind our downfall.

In other words, in our dreams.

Would be awesome to be wrong..

i believe you are wrong muzzleflash, my friend.

i believe our dreams have been never closer to coming true.

everything main stream media-wise is being reduced to absurdity. all part of our understanding process.

it will not be long now before all becomes publically clear.

it is done already, in my most honest view.

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Can you provide a link to the "Drone Killings on American Soil", I am interested in hearing that line of BS, I have no love for Obama, I feel ultimate power ultimately corrupts. Send me your stuff or retract your comments.

Denise Keyser
President Obama's recess-appointment bet sours
1/25/13

www.politico.com...

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These are not criminal charges against the president. This is an attempt to have unconstitutional appointments nullified. BIG difference.

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You are absolutely right. It seems, though, that all the right-wing wackaloons pay attention to are total nutbags like LaRouche, who was not only indicted, but convicted, of fraud.

Can y'all imagine if this much effort by PAC's
across the United States were used to investigate Cheney 2001-2009?
Real Crimes Real Fraud .

Not bs like birth certificates or Gun runs by known
crooked ATF department in where else? Phoenix, Tea Party capital of he world.
Bs charges of socialism then oddly fascism ,the list goes on and on.

I have seen a billion of these.
Always linked to Breitbart from beyond the grave(because Obama killed him)
Or the Matt Drudge report, whose on par with the Access Hollywood
at this point, and finally some rt wing fringe group like
Larouche. It never amounts to squat.

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
reply to post by Advantage

 

Can you provide a link to the "Drone Killings on American Soil", I am interested in hearing that line of BS, I have no love for Obama, I feel ultimate power ultimately corrupts. Send me your stuff or retract your comments.

I should have been more clear and said drone killings of Americans and drones over american soil.. but here are the links. The targeting if americans on the mainland have already been discussed and drones ( lethal and "less than lethal" are already in existance and more proposed.. as are in the links. American citizens overseas have already been killed.. one a 16 yr old boy. There have been several discussions here concerning it as well. Several links are missing ( 404) I guess siince the lawsuit and the green light to keep it secret. Who knows. There are many links if you google.. but if you look at the old threads there are several you cant view anymore. One of the things that is pretty clear, the ROE with the drones okays it for use in the states against " enemies".. the roe seems pretty vague.. and was written by the Obama admin.
Congress passed HR 658...and look up " Terror Tuesday" at the whitehouse.

In January, Congress passed HR 658, which requires the Federal Aviation Administration to take steps to facilitate the integration of drones “into the national airspace system.” President Obama signed the bill on February 14 with no public discussion or comment. (See “Drones come to the US”) Since Obama signed the bill, hundreds of drones have already begun flying over the US to spy on and monitor the population. A recent ABC News investigative report entitled “UAVs: Will Our Civil Liberties Be Droned Out?” outlined the possibility of drones buzzing overhead becoming “a fact of daily life.” ABC News reported: “Drones can carry facial recognition cameras, license plate scanners, thermal imaging cameras, open WiFi sniffers, and other sensors. And they can be armed.”

On “Terror Tuesdays” at the White House, President Obama helps draw up a list of opponents of US policy overseas who are to be illegally assassinated by drone-fired missiles. These “kill lists” have already included US citizens. With tens of thousands of drones flying overhead, and with the US mainland designated as a “battleground” in the never-ending and geographically unlimited “war on terror,” the US ruling class hopes one day soon to be able to eliminate its domestic opponents with similar ease.

www.nytimes.com...


rt.com...
www.npr.org...
www.politico.com...
jurist.org...
truth-out.org...
www.huffingtonpost.com...
www.presstv.ir...

www.wsws.org...

WHat I thought was odd.. given the exercises recently... are the placement of the current and projected drone bases..

Originally posted by F4guy
reply to post by mazzroth

 

You are absolutely right. It seems, though, that all the right-wing wackaloons pay attention to are total nutbags like LaRouche, who was not only indicted, but convicted, of fraud.

You do realize that a large number of us who are not Obama fans not only disregard LaRouche, but also realize that this didnt start with Obama? That we called for impeachment of Bush as well? It is YOUR type that keeps up the false paradigm of "them" versus "us".... seemingly to feel superior given your use of disparaging names spewed like a child at "them". If you hadnt noticed, Obama is the current president and on his second term... and due to his expounding and expanding on this nonsense it is rational to condemn it as well. Our country has been on a downward crap slide for most of my nearly 50 years.. and rational people dont follow a party line like a sheep or worship either a donkey or an elephant.Each administration over the last 4+ decades of my life and during all of my voting years over those decades has been a failure and a money grab at the expense of the citizens. You may be okay with it due to your most exalted party being in office, but to those who see it for what it is... its only another opportunity to push to get the country back on track.

This isnt a playground.. this is real life, real lives, real consequences, real ong term effects, and what you do or dont do will be what you are known by. I dont see a bunch of right-wing wackaloons or libtards.. I see a bunch of childish self-centered hubris filled jackasses who should get out of the way if they cant manage to be useful.

Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by ajay59

 

These are not criminal charges against the president. This is an attempt to have unconstitutional appointments nullified. BIG difference.

One could look at it as removing previously installed fail-safes instituted by the criminal, foreign born, illegal criminal-in-chief! Bye-bye.....bye-bye Obummer bye-byyyyyyyeeee.......

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
In this video, LaRouche claims that he has heard from inside sources in the government that Obama has been indicted by a federal court with a long list of charges that is greater than he's ever seen in American politics on any previous president.

larouchepac.com...

EDIT, aha! Found it on youtube:

But he refuses to go into details of the actual indictment, saying that those are better left to the government sources to reveal.

But he does go on to analyze likely national and international response to the charges, and also called the indictment "A blessing from Heaven."

He also says "Something deeper in our government has acted to initiate impeachment."

Well this has definitely got my curiosity up, for sure...

edit on Wed Jan 30th 2013 by TrueAmerican because: (no reason given)

Ummm.....If you watch the video...at about the 16 min mark he states that the SCOTUS is the court that is acting on and bringing these charges....or at least that's what I...think...he's stating. That the SCOTUS is acting because the House and Senate refuse to do their job....correct me if im wrong on this.

YouSir

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Guys, here is the link storm is trying to post:

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Ummm....Listen up!!!! I think we have this all bass-ackwards if you listen to what he says about Europe and the Monarchy, ie., Britian, then what comes to my mind are "The White Hats Reports"...curiouser and curiouser.........maybe theres some meat in with those potatoes after all...one can only hope.

YouSir

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Europe and the Monarchy, ie., Britian, then what comes to my mind are "The White Hats Reports".

Yes, it was interesting,

what is White hat reports?

LaRouche is obviously off his meds again and hearing voices in his head telling him exactly what he wants to hear. Of course I'm going to believe a convicted felon that a federal court has secretly indicted the President on "serious charges". Not. LaRouche - go back to your slime hole and stay there.