How to prove evolution is FAKE!!!

reply to post by stereologist

Your puerile lies are making you a laughing stock.

No one is laughing about me, but I'm sure they are about you. Remember you are the one that believes that mosquitoes transfer heartworm disease, and there is no proof of that.

Already proved that diets are incomplete.

There isn't anything in the jurisdiction of the definition that makes that claim. This is a folly made up in your mind to try to protect the large lie that you started that all animals experiment. Still you have produced nothing in documentation that proves it, you have produced nothing in diet that proves it, and you have provided nothing in species that proves it. The fact is your wrong and its a bald face lie

Maybe you should post your first.

The onus has always been on you to provide evidence for this nonsense called Tooth's Folly.

And you lie again, you claim that I havent shared any proof, yet you sure are struggeling pretty hard to try to prove me wrong. So which is it, are you lying that I never shared the facts, or are lying because you can't prove the facts to be wrong.

reply to post by itsthetooth

No one is laughing about me, but I'm sure they are about you. Remember you are the one that believes that mosquitoes transfer heartworm disease, and there is no proof of that.

People laugh at you for:
1. Not being able to understand what a disease is
2. Thinking that adding an 's' is meaningful beyond indicating plurality
3. Thinking cabbits are real
4. Saying you proved mosquitoes do not consume blood
5. Posting that nonsense folly of yours
6. Saying fungi are plants
7. Stating that mosquitoes lay their eggs/larva in hosts

Already proved that diets are incomplete.

Let's do it one more time for tooth since tooth is lying AGAIN!
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I wrote

And I proved that deer and other animals habitually eat dirt and rocks at mineral licks.

Tooth's response

Which I said was fine, so its a natural part of their diet.

Tooth writes
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Dirt and rocks are not part of any diet that I'm aware of.

Thus tooth agrees that dirt and rocks are part of a deer's diet and tooth states that it is not part of any published diet.

Q.E.D.

How easy it is to prove that tooth lies.

And you lie again, you claim that I havent shared any proof, yet you sure are struggeling pretty hard to try to prove me wrong. So which is it, are you lying that I never shared the facts, or are lying because you can't prove the facts to be wrong.

It is trivial to show you are wrong.

You are a flat out liar when you claim that you have posted evidence to support that stupid folly of yours. You have posted nothing and everyone reading this thread knows you have posted nothing.

reply to post by itsthetooth


You have shared no facts... all you share are your own personal beliefs...

Please post these facts from a reputable source that isn't your mouth.

reply to post by itsthetooth


When are you going to stop lying? Never. We all know that.

Animals experimenting with food proved for:
1. deer
2. mice
3. rats
4. squirrels

What we do have is a solid understanding that we have a diet for all species and that the definition of diet is food that is habitually eaten, in other words no experimentation. This is your folly for sure

A non sequitur. No one is going to fall for that lame statement.


Already posted it. Everyone knows you are not telling the truth.


These are the reasons your TF is a folly.
1. You provide no evidence to support it ... making it a folly
2. You make only unsubstantiated claims and call them facts ... making it a folly
3. You employ logical fallacies in nearly every post ... making it a folly
4. You employ non sequiturs ... making it a folly
5. You fail to understand simple terms used in science ... making it a folly.
6. You misuse words to the point of being nonsensical ... making it a folly
7. You lie about what you have done ... making it a folly
8. You constantly argue from personal ignorance ... making it a folly
9. You employ straw man arguments ... making it a folly
10. You employ ad hominems ,,,, making it a folly

Animals experiment with food - proven
You stated mosquitoes experiment with food - proven
Mosquitoes transmit heartworm disease - proven

You have never proven that deer experiment with food

Done many times and by more than me. Your childish whine about being shown to be wrong is laughable.

Deer have a concise diet

Concise diets already proven false.

Again anytime we have a known diet for any species its a fact that they aren't experimenting with food.

A delusion based on your personal lack of understanding and inability to formulate logical constructs.

there are facts to back it up and the facts are obvious.

So post one instead of constantly telling lies.

What we are waiting for is tooth to provide the first piece of evidence they believe supports their folly.

Already proved animals experiment with food. So you lie about that.
Already posted links about the warm meals. So you lie about that.
You are confused when a disease and a parasite have the same name. Being loud about it is making everyone laugh at you.

Heartworm, is NOT a disease, heartworm disease is a disease. You are taking liberties that even someone that doesn't speak english can see is wrong.

A claim based on your inability to read and understand simple English.

Heartworm is a disease as proved by all of my links.

You guys are STILL arguing about this?? What's it been, about a month now?

reply to post by NorthBlizzard


There will never be an end as long as tooth is allowed to lie in every post.

I often avoid telling the answer to tooth because I'd rather see him post one of his blunders. Here are some to savor.

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I allready posted links proving mosquitoes don't drink blood its Q.E.D.

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Then you must have missed all the info I shared that clearly pointed out that mosquitoes don't consume blood.

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I wrote

Caterpillars eat leafy material, but butterflies drink nectar. Are both part of their diets or neither is part of their diet?

Tooth's response

Obviously his diet changes when he changes species.

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I wrote

You have stated many times that no one has ever observed a species changing into another species.
But you now claim that when a caterpillar changes into a butterfly it changes into another species.

Tooth's response

I guess there is always an exception to the rule.

Tooth's common refrain is
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No one has ever witnessed a species evolving, and anyone that claims to have, needs to have their credentials revoked.

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We have cats and rabbits, two totally different species, are able to breed with one another and make a cabbit.

Tooth is a hoot.

A cabbit!? C'mon man... that was just.. really?

Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by itsthetooth

 

You have shared no facts... all you share are your own personal beliefs...

Please post these facts from a reputable source that isn't your mouth.

Will not happen, willful ignorance is strong in this one.
In order for us to be able to debate and engage in discussion about evolution, we must be talking about the same thing.
Which means that tooth needs to learn what evolution really is and what it really teaches and what its conclusions and consequences really are.
Until tooth can do this, we will not be able to make any kind of progress... which of course is the goal of tooth's folly.


Here tooth's folly makes google front page..

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Here tooth admits they made TF up.

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From here on out and pages and pages and threads before, it's all just flaming troll bait.

Evolution exists.

Creationism exists.

God is a word for all existence, and we can relate to it personally.

Get used to it.

reply to post by Myollinir


Why use such a loaded word like god then? It seems existance or reality fits just as well in it place, with your logic.

I know it helps to speak the language of idiots, but seriously lets all smarten up a little.

reply to post by stereologist

People laugh at you for:
1. Not being able to understand what a disease is
2. Thinking that adding an 's' is meaningful beyond indicating plurality
3. Thinking cabbits are real
4. Saying you proved mosquitoes do not consume blood
5. Posting that nonsense folly of yours
6. Saying fungi are plants
7. Stating that mosquitoes lay their eggs/larva in hosts

At least I understand the difference between a parasite and a disease. I never added an S to anything, it was there and you totaly missed it. I never claimed to prove that mosquitoes don't consume blood, I provided several links that stated so. I have no folly. I never claimed that fungi are plants, what I was saying is that to a deer he may consider the fungi to be in the same food group. Mosquitoes transfer larva into hosts, I was still correct all along.

Thus tooth agrees that dirt and rocks are part of a deer's diet and tooth states that it is not part of any published diet.

Q.E.D.

How easy it is to prove that tooth lies.

Animals that dont eat rocks or dirt was just a mataphor, if you understand what that is. Anyhow, you still never proved that any of them eat rocks or dirt, so you lied again.

reply to post by Wertdagf

You have shared no facts... all you share are your own personal beliefs...

Please post these facts from a reputable source that isn't your mouth.

An observation is not from my mouth. You are welcome to look at as many diets as you can, just like I did about fifty of them.

You will realize several things if you are smart enough.

First thing you might realize is that all units of a species eat the same food when its available, which is odd.
Usually when a species is closest to its target food, but not within reach, it will eat everything within its same food group.
This is called phase one of hunger. After that fails, you may see the species pick up an additional food group, as in the example of the squirrel, and many others, like the bear.
When the squirrels phase one diet goes out of season, he moves on to phase two where he picks up additional food groups eating bugs, and rodents.
These patterns are consistant with ALL diets, you can look at as many diets as you wish to confirm it yourself.
In this, no species is ever found to experiment with food. What I mean by experiment is they never try food to realize they don't like it and move on to another food, its as though they either know right off the bat what they are searching for, or are searching for a specific food to begin with.
These rules do not apply to domesticated animals as we predict what they eat. The sampling rate of these patterns is limited to accessability of the food. Regardless, the same decision of food choice is all made as a whole.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Myollinir

 

Why use such a loaded word like god then? It seems existance or reality fits just as well in it place, with your logic.

I know it helps to speak the language of idiots, but seriously lets all smarten up a little.

Well the word GOD is just a new translation for creator, it doesn't necessarily mean a men sitting in a chair above the clouds, but more the power behind the creation of all beings including the earth, sun, galaxies and the universe it self.

We can apply multiple meanings to the word GOD, but throughout history it was always to represent a power we do not understand, and always in symbolic writings (just odd people took it literally).

With evolution and even any scientific exploration instead of arguing about subjects that are still not 100% accurate, we should instead be setting up frontiers in science, instead of locking our self's into one popular belief structure, we have to always keep moving forward, for example the moon landing, why did they abandon it? why did they not set up a frontier? to push humans one step closer to true exploration and not exploited and commercialized, militarized scientific industry.

I mean, most research is funded by military, that's gotta raise some eyebrows you know?

And about animals not experimenting with food, i mean a deer doesn't eat meat unless, it's for certain deficiencies, rarely, but it's not experimenting, it knows what it's doing, unlike humans, animals have still obtained the perfect cycle with this planet, there is no experimenting with food, it is established. Even a lion would eat grass.

reply to post by stereologist

When are you going to stop lying? Never. We all know that.

Animals experimenting with food proved for:
1. deer
2. mice
3. rats
4. squirrels

Your false claims are rejected, as there has never been any SLIGHT proof that these species experiment with food, and if I'm wrong please post the diet that specifically indicates that they experment with food.

A non sequitur. No one is going to fall for that lame statement.


Already posted it. Everyone knows you are not telling the truth.


These are the reasons your TF is a folly.
1. You provide no evidence to support it ... making it a folly
2. You make only unsubstantiated claims and call them facts ... making it a folly
3. You employ logical fallacies in nearly every post ... making it a folly
4. You employ non sequiturs ... making it a folly
5. You fail to understand simple terms used in science ... making it a folly.
6. You misuse words to the point of being nonsensical ... making it a folly
7. You lie about what you have done ... making it a folly
8. You constantly argue from personal ignorance ... making it a folly
9. You employ straw man arguments ... making it a folly
10. You employ ad hominems ,,,, making it a folly

Animals experiment with food - proven
You stated mosquitoes experiment with food - proven
Mosquitoes transmit heartworm disease - proven

It's not a non sequitur, its just your lame way of saying you don't accept it.


1.You tried sneaking out of one of your lies when I asked you to prove animals experiment with food.
2.You also tried sneaking out of another one of your lies, when I asked you to prove that I claimed mosquitoes require a warm meal.
3.You also tried sneaking out of another one of your lies, when I proved to you that heartworms and heartworm disease are not the same thing.
4.You also tried sneaking out of another lie when I proved to you that mosquitoes don't transfer heartworm disease, they transfer heartworms, and yes there is a big difference, notice how they are spelled differently.
5. You lied again claiming that I employed the plural in heartworm when it was in the post itself.
6. You also employ ad hominems ,,,, making it a folly
7. You make only unsubstantiated claims and call them facts ... making it a folly
8. You employ logical fallacies in nearly every post ... making it a folly
9. You constantly argue from personal ignorance ... making it a folly
10. You fail to understand simple terms used in science ... making it a folly
11. You fail to understand simple terms used in english... making it a folly.
12. You provide no evidence to support it ... making it a folly
13. You misuse words to the point of being nonsensical ... making it a folly
14. You lie about what I have done ... making it a folly
15. You employ straw man arguments ... making it a folly

Animals experiment with food - proven
You stated mosquitoes experiment with food - proven
Mosquitoes transmit heartworm disease - proven

Lets see that diet that claims so.

Done many times and by more than me. Your childish whine about being shown to be wrong is laughable.

And you lie again, you have never provided anything that proves deer experiment with food.

Concise diets already proven false.

Your personal claims about what you have seen deer do does not count as I don't believe a word you say. I want to see it documented somewhere.

A delusion based on your personal lack of understanding and inability to formulate logical constructs.

Then you can contact that definition writer and let them know they are delusional because that is what I'm going by.

So post one instead of constantly telling lies.

What we are waiting for is tooth to provide the first piece of evidence they believe supports their folly.

Already proved animals experiment with food. So you lie about that.
Already posted links about the warm meals. So you lie about that.
You are confused when a disease and a parasite have the same name. Being loud about it is making everyone laugh at you.

Thats the third time in the same post that you have lied about the same thing. You have NEVER provided proof that any animals experiment with food, and in fact to prove that your lying, you even came up with a lame theory as to why you are unable to provide a diet that proves it so. Why are you lying?

A claim based on your inability to read and understand simple English.

Heartworm is a disease as proved by all of my links.

Prove it.

reply to post by itsthetooth

At least I understand the difference between a parasite and a disease. I never added an S to anything, it was there and you totaly missed it. I never claimed to prove that mosquitoes don't consume blood, I provided several links that stated so. I have no folly. I never claimed that fungi are plants, what I was saying is that to a deer he may consider the fungi to be in the same food group. Mosquitoes transfer larva into hosts, I was still correct all along.

Great now all you have to learn is that a disease and a parasite can share the same name.
Your puerile thinking about the 's' makes everyone laugh at you.

And you lie about the mosquitoes and blood consumption.
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Then you must have missed all the info I shared that clearly pointed out that mosquitoes don't consume blood.

Of course you stated that fungi are plants. It is a typical comment from you illustrating your utter lack of understanding of issues dealing with biology.

And you finally figured out a pathetic excuse to cover up your stupendous blunder that mosquitos lay their eggs in hosts.

When tooth pretends that he was referring to mosquitoes and their transfer of paraste larva he is lying. Here is what he posted.
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Besides, what are you thinking, mosquitoes look for a cold body for breeding?

Animals that dont eat rocks or dirt was just a mataphor, if you understand what that is. Anyhow, you still never proved that any of them eat rocks or dirt, so you lied again.

More idiotic lies from tooth. Tooth already accepted that deer and other animals eat rocks and dirt on a regular basis.

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I wrote

And I proved that deer and other animals habitually eat dirt and rocks at mineral licks.

Tooth's response

Which I said was fine, so its a natural part of their diet.

reply to post by itsthetooth


When are you going to stop lying? Never. We all know that.

Animals experimenting with food proved for:
1. deer
2. mice
3. rats
4. squirrels

Tooth simply lies to protect his inane folly.


These are the reasons your TF is a folly.
1. You provide no evidence to support it ... making it a folly
2. You make only unsubstantiated claims and call them facts ... making it a folly
3. You employ logical fallacies in nearly every post ... making it a folly
4. You employ non sequiturs ... making it a folly
5. You fail to understand simple terms used in science ... making it a folly.
6. You misuse words to the point of being nonsensical ... making it a folly
7. You lie about what you have done ... making it a folly
8. You constantly argue from personal ignorance ... making it a folly
9. You employ straw man arguments ... making it a folly
10. You employ ad hominems ,,,, making it a folly

Animals experiment with food - proven

It's not a non sequitur, its just your lame way of saying you don't accept it.

Why don't you try a better excuse such as, tooth's spelling and writing are so poor that no one can understand most of the gibberish tooth posts.

1. Animals experiment with food - proven multiple times
2. Tooth stated mosquitoes require a warm meal - proven
3. Heart disease and the heartworm parasites share the same name - proven
4. Mosquitoes are the vector for heartworm disease - proven
5. Tooth write a name that was plural - proven
6. Tooth's lies that people do not provide proof against his inane folly - proven multiple times
7. Concise diets already proven false.

Thats the third time in the same post that you have lied about the same thing. You have NEVER provided proof that any animals experiment with food, and in fact to prove that your lying, you even came up with a lame theory as to why you are unable to provide a diet that proves it so. Why are you lying?

No matter how many times you lie about this it is still a lie. Multiple posters in multiple threads have shown you are wrong.

A claim based on your inability to read and understand simple English. Heartworm is a disease as proved by all of my links.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by stereologist

 

First off you keep making the false claim that I said that mosquitoes require a warm meal, that is false and I'm waiting for you to prove it.

Challenge accepted...

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by stereologist

 

Tooth's Folly has been shown to false many times. I'm just curious what terrible excuse you have for yet another failure of TF.

I'm sorry to say, that your WRONG. Species are directed to a specific food, which means there must have been a pre knowledge of the food in their design, something that evolution totally lacks.

Just because female mosquitoes consume blood and males dont, does not prove the theory wrong, if anything it adds to the validity of my claims. You see its just possible that the female mosquitoes are the only ones that go after warm diets, for alternate reasons.

No. It shows how poorly thought out TF is.

Target Food explains that a species is interested in a specific food from birth, and shows how anything else is a stage of hunger, to the end. In effect Target food explains the begining and the end, something that evolution once again failed at.

Post some evidence if you have any.

Trends and patterns observed have already been posted much earlier in the thread.

You keep changing to adjust to all of your failures.

I don't have any failures so there is no need to adjust. I will however point out your largest failure, next to lying and moving goal posts, the refusal to answer the simplest questions, like I had asked about how you came into knowledge about the bear diet.

That has to be the best example of arguing from personal ignorance to date.

The only thing I'm aware of thats used in science is adaptation of small organisims and viruses, which is actually just adaptation.

Thanks for showing us yet again that you do not understand basic terms used in science.

There is still no proof, why don't you ever prove it.

More evidence that you are clueless concerning the meaning of evolution as use din science.

Anyone with half a brain can see that evolution was only designed in the imagination of those as an excuse to replace the idea of a creator.

1. Does not answer the question
2. You are wrong about the content of the statement

Then you are able to provide something that proves something has evolved into something else? Lets see it.

Now there you blunder your way into revealing even more how clueless you are about the meaning of evolution.

Its a fact that observed changes in small organisms and viruses is nothing more than adaptation.

Meaningless comment from someone who demonstrated quite well they have no idea what evolution means as used in science.

So I take it you have some proof that explains how science is using evolution, lets see it.

Force feeding is a form of torture. Nasty of you.

I held a ramon noodle in front of him and he chewed it. Whats so torturious about that.

You altered the definition as I assisted you in examining the implications of the different definitions you proposed. I can read. You just didn't understand the importance of clarifying your position.

Did you ever consider the fact that the problem is obviously YOU not understanding Target Food like you have pointed out many other times.

Deer eat meat. Bears eat trees. Where have you been?

Only when they are starving.

That's a bald faced lie.

Then why would you take a stance that I'm wrong on subjects when your now claiming that I have never shared them?

The only reason for that is because your lying.

reply to post by itsthetooth


So Where is your proof of such well defined diets that "members of the same species" always choose the same food and never accidently eat something that kills them.

All I see is YOUR words claiming what YOU have seen is fact.

Could you use a reputable source that shares your opinion?

Watch this and then present your argument for evolution.

He compares the cell, he calls a miniature city with the Ford River Rouge Plant in Dearborn Michigan at which he used to be an executive.

The “simple” cell is capable of replicating its entire self within a few hours (all cells derive from other cells)
Unparalleled complexity and adaptive design
"simple" cell:

Unparalleled complexity and adaptive design
Central memory bank
Assembly plants and processing units
Repackaging and shipping centers
Elaborate communication systems with quality control and repair mechanisms
Robot machines (protein molecules)
--3,000 atoms each in 3D configuration
--Hundreds of thousands of specific types

Automated Factories in cells:

Robot machines
-- Hundreds of thousands of different types
Digital languages and decoding systems
Memory banks for information storage
Elegant control systems regulating automated assembly of components
Prefabrication and modular construction
Proof reading and error correcting devices for quality control

“Although the tiniest bacteria cells are incredibly small, each is in effect a veritable micro-miniaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery, made up of 100,000,000,000 atoms, far more complicated than any machine built by man and absolutely without parallel within the non-living world.” --Michael Denton, 1986

reply to post by divideandconquer


Not a single person in evolutionary biology has claimed that the cell structure that exists today in its present form just magically appeared. Chuck is talking about how complex the single cells we have TODAY are. He fails to realize that just like humans, cells went through an evolutionary process that produced what we see today.

He clearly does not understand evolution. He presents claims that no one has made and then proceeds to pat himself on the back for pointing out how flawed a position, that no one takes, is.

The video is ignorant propaganda which preachers use all over the world to lie about what science actually says. Lying for Jesus... to deceive their congregation is a very common thing.