Wake Up And Smell The Street Theater: An ATS Field Guide to Gangstalking.

reply to post by Xoanon


I have checked out alot on line. But they get destroyed. I have made contacts and it gets turned to trash.
other places are trying to turn it into court cases. Last thing i want to to be in is a court case aginst the feds.The problem i see with the whole setup from the perps side and the true ti side. Is there is no way for us to make contact to try to resolve the situation we are put in. Why i came here in the first place. I watied as long as i could trying to find a way to resolve this. No one would come and talk to me about resolving it. So i am here talking to the perps. And everyone eles.
How may i humbly request and intermediary??

Please stand by as Pete Fountain plays for you.

Originally posted by pathwalker777
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

 

If you dont belive me test this for yourself. Learn hypnosis. Then learn conversational hypnosis. Then play around with it. Then come back here and lets talk about how easy this is to do. Then we can ask ourselfs humm why would the feds not be doing this???
And did you know to get a job with the cia and fbi you have to let them hypnotize you.

edit on 26-1-2013 by pathwalker777 because: (no reason given)

I think you're faking the uneducated bit. Your spelling is very erratic, sometimes perfect, sometimes bad.
You spell "conversational hypnosis", yet can't spell "believe"? Something is off here and I think you're doing it on purpose.

reply to post by DAVID64


Its called.auto correct. On my cellphone. And on top of it. I got a alsome update 2 days ago when i realy started letting my info out bigtime. Now my phone adds words and all kinds of stuff. It changes them adds letters
its realy crazy now lol. I spend more time then righting fixing my phones new possession. It has even changed whole sentences into abusive insults. Lol thankfully i keep.rereading and fixing it.
Ps look at the end of the line above. I did not do that wacky stuff.
and yea i could be considered realy smart. I read alot studyed alot of niffty topics. But spelling is something i never worried about. I hated english. And essays lol. Done deal lol... I can read and understand anything even huge words. Just because i spell bad and dont care to be a essay mager does not mean i am not smart. I have been caught up in a nasty game for awile and they have learned. This lol actuly i have met with the feds a few times but i have not got into it. One time he asked what i thought was my most powerfull aspect. I told him my mind and he sayed your right. You could of been something amazing. And i told him i am. Your talking to me about it

reply to post by pathwalker777


I can understand that, mine seems to be possessed at times too. Sometimes my wife thinks I'm asking for..... when it's just my phone.

I suppose I owe pathwalker777 an apology. Looking back now, I have felt guilty for the way I treated him in his thread. As I said in my other post, I quite frequently defend as well as attempt to spread awareness of mental illness on the boards. At the time I assumed pathwalker was another dime a dozen attention seeker joining the site to make ludicrous claims for a laugh. I would like to make it public that any individual truly suffering no matter the cause does have my sympathy, respect and help if needed. I may not be able to solve all problems but I may at the very least be able to lend an ear.

ATS does a lot of things to a lot of different people. For some of us it can drive us to complete paranoia, expecting conspiracies at every corner. Others it can turn into complete skeptics with the overwhelming amount of false information, and attention seeking threads. How ever I do like to think that ATS can bring out the best of us at times. There is a lot of useful information, and for members such as myself and others that will go unnamed, it can provide valuable resources, information and opportunities to help our fellow man.

Pathwalker, after I left your thread I couldn't help but feel I had wronged you. I will admit, it took a while for it to set in and I originally thought you were out for laughs, but if you really were suffering I couldn't imagine the things I could have drove you today. No matter your ailment, my actions were unjust and unfair.

Although I have not shared stories similar to yours, I have shared facts about my life on this site, and I was accepted with a grace I did not share to you. If the mods so choose it that a punishment is due, I will accept with grace. If you really are suffering pathwalker please know I am not out to get you, nor put you down, and I apologize for my actions on the boards.

Sincerely,

Hijinx

The Paranoid Live Longer

Have you ever heard that one, ATS? I bet that there might be some writer somewhere or some person that would like to think that they said that first. But as far as I am concerned; the saying came from a game that we used to play in high school, way back in the early eighties, called KAOS.

Killing As An Organized Sport, or Killer, a.k.a the Assassin Game was the biggest fun thing to do when I was a kid. It fit right in there alongside Dungeons and Dragons and gave us a role-playing thing to do when we weren't gaming with dice. All the geeks were doing it.

It was simple. This may differ some from what you find on WikiPedia but this is how we played it. There was a paper rule book, as you can see above, but we just used it as a guide. We used a sort of 'blind' lottery system whereby each person only knew the name of their target. We would start on a Monday. The bitter end of the game was typically drawn out by the final players over the weekend.

Any and all means of creatively disposing of your target were allowed. Nothing that could do real harm was ok, but pillows were, for bludgeonings, and the primary weapon of choice was the orange plastic dart gun with the sucker-tip ammo. But it was all in there, wall-locker booby-traps, water-weenie poison-hoses, made from silastic tubing from lab and a ballpoint pen. One of my faves was the infamous 'Knifed!' sticker, slapped on the back of one of my friends just as they sat down to dinner. On a Thursday. With their parents. Parents loved me. I was going in the service, after all.

Anyway, it really made us seriously paranoid. It was, I suppose, an introduction for all of us, to the sweet pleasures of self-induced paranoia. I hope that does not sound too off, considering where this thread has been. But hey: horror novels.

I mentioned in my OP that I wanted to express to all of you that there is a very complex game taking place in the world of gang stalking and T.I.s. I hope that I have made a good analogy of it. Because I see so many similarities to the kinds of simulated paranoia that friends and I, and now I understand likely 1000s of college students across America, used to and still do indulge in. Maybe I could have also said, “But hey: ATS”.

Fact is, I wish it were a game. It would be fun, although all of us old enough to get it, no longer have the time to play it. I actually see the template, as I call it, as rather ingenious. I am a big fan of the puzzles that we create out of our narratives and stories, and how solving different parts of them, as in reading literature as a means to understanding people and culture, helps a person to grow.

But this one? Gang Stalking? As a connoisseur I can tell you that this one takes the cake. As Piaget and others have so graciously pointed out, a person's experience of the world is an experience of accomodating the world and the people in it, the goal being to attain some sort of equilibrium.

The plain simple chassis that I have outlined in my OP as 'The Lexicon' provides a basis for every sort of human interaction, and every sort of story that a person could ever spawn in order to accommodate those interactions as they seek equilibrium.

This particular game template, as I see it, spans the fields of human interaction and provides the basic roles that cover all operants. In the wrong hands this game book is very, very, dangerous stuff. A naked framework for belief, that helps already marginalized people rationalize their way to becoming even more solidly and officially marginalized.

reply to post by Xoanon

Hi Xoanon, I have been following this thread since yesterday with great interest. I have never heard of 'gs', but I have found the thread quite disturbing to read. Going back 20 years, me and what turned out to be the mother of my youngest son and partner of 7 years had just got together. Almost immediately, she (we?) were 'stalked' by someone. There was nothing subtle about it, her car tyres were slashed one night, we went away overnight and when we returned, a brick had been put through the window. Anonymous stencil written letters started arriving, then typewritten ones with porn pictures attatched, we got a commemorative teapot through the post, then records and books from those book clubs in the sunday supplements. She had a couple of ex-boyfriends in the area who came under suspicion, we fronted them both, obviously they both denied any knowledge. One I bumped into several years later, had a long and friendly chat with and asked directly, was it him? He said no, and I believed him. He seemed like a genuine guy. The other always seemed like the obvious subject to me, they were still in touch and he only lived round the corner. Also, we contacted the book club I mentioned, and asked them if they kept the coupons from the magazines that the books were ordered with. they did, and they sent them to us. The writing where our address was filled in looked like it was written by a child, but when my partner saw the numbers in the boxes, the codes for the books, etc, she immediately said "that's P***'s 5! The vertical part of the 5 was missing, like an upside down 2. We had involved the police by this time, they asked the guy for a handwriting sample, but the graphologist said there was no match. I don't want to go into too much detail here, but we were so stressed by this situation that we decided to move. The guy with the 5 had just moved into what had been his parents house, which was quite large, and we moved in with him temporarily. Nothing weird at all happened after that, total stop. We moved on presently, and that was the end of that.
Several years after we parted, we got to talking about this, and she told me she believed it was a fairly heavy-duty gang she had been involved with in her twenties that had done all this. I don't know if any of this fits in with this gs pattern, there was none of the 'strange people in the street' stuff, and I guess I'm never going to know the truth. It feels good to get this out of my head, it still nags at me now and again, but what I can say for sure is it is a horrible experience. Mabye if I leave it here, it wont bother me again. Good thread

reply to post by freebornman

Mabye if I leave it here, it wont bother me again.

That touched me very deeply and I am humbled to think that this thread may have been of any service to you at all. Thank you for taking the time to share your story. It is valuable to all of us.

reply to post by Hijinx


Hello Hijinx,

You know we were in there together, and I was the worst of it. I won't take up too much space here, because you wrote, in your above post, the apology that I wish I had written. But instead i did this thread.

I was lagging behind you, Hijinx, in terms of finding my heart. I woke up, as I said, the morning after that thread, laughing.

Here's the rub. If it had not been for moderator Semperfortis, I likely would have never heard from my heart. But as it stood, I started to find it as I made this thread. In terms of how i set up the OP? I suppose i thought i was being slick.

I'm actually still feeling a little slick.

Nevertheless, thanks for your posts. I can't tell you how nice it has been meeting you this way. I am very proud to add you to my list of friends.

reply to post by Xoanon and Hijinx

I guess I could take credit for outing you both in the other thread. I can see why you are both feeling guilty but the truth is that pathwalker777 isn't breaking character. I think it can be said that gangstalking isn't really what its victims claim it to be and that is where the fine line is drawn.

Both of you are here offering apologies but that isn't going to help pathwalker777 or anyone else who claims to be a t.i. You may be looking for places where paranoid people can get help and he is still trying to get people to believe that the government is using conversational hypnosis to entrap people. In short, your pulling in opposite directions.

He has stated in this thread that he doesn't suffer any mental illness but can the person suffering from something like that really diagnose himself? I think not. We can tell him that he needs to look for help and even offer convincing arguments but it is up to him to take that first step.

reply to post by daskakik


You are certainly correct, and thank you for paying enough attention to know that I never type in 'pidgin'.

I sincerely appreciate your input. I will ask, since you have joined the gang: do you think then that I should not point out any of these organizations that I have alluded to, and do you suppose then that we should not seek to provide a few, possibly very hard to find, links to folks that are pros that have a special interest in this area?

Your input is truly appreciated, although I must admit to what must be a very apparent lack of impulse control; so no guarantees.



P.S.

Oh gosh. I'll be honest. I am sincerely not meaning to be a prick, but I have only really felt passing twinges of guilt. Mostly I have felt: paranoia, suspicion, all-pervading electric-like anxiety, alienation and sadness. And I have also had many, many moments of personal and private hilarity driving around, pretending to be either, Perp, Handler or T.I..

My cat is my main Seasoned Perp, and he is black; that's how he Perps the Color Harassment.

I just want to warn you all

To All:

I am losing my patience with some of you that refuse to meet me half way with the humour. It makes me want to characterize it in a long cogent post about the elderly.

I apologize for that.

But hey: Limits.

Originally posted by Xoanon
reply to post by daskakik

 

do you think then that I should not point out any of these organizations that I have alluded to, and do you suppose then that we should not seek to provide a few, possibly very hard to find, links to folks that are pros that have a special interest in this area?

I think that this is a good thing but our interactions are so long distance that it shouldn't come as a surprise if, after posting these links, that those in need of them ignore them and continue to believe whatever they choose to believe, which seems to be the case here.

Originally posted by Xoanon
Would it be possible for ATS to delve in to whatever resources they have at hand to help find bonafide assistance programs and links to professionals with a special interest in this phenomenon?

I am going to go ahead now and begin to post about some of the websites and organizations that I feel contribute to the confusion and dis-ease.

I'll give it, 20 minutes or so. This is a group effort now so I will wait for input.

Thanks again to everyone involved.

in my case, the simple answer would've been a doctor who recognized mycoplasmic infection in blood work. the theory is, i contracted it second hand from a returning gulf war vet who had received a japanese tick borne encephalitis vaccine and somehow became a carrier of it. there's also the possibility that i was bitten by a tick, in an area of the usa that doesn't have ticks. odds of contracting it in that place, the doctor said, were 1000000 to 1.

they were never able to isolate a bacteria or virus that might have caused it, only that the symptoms mimicked encephalitis so that's what they called it. theoretically, this is because they weren't looking for mycoplasms.

i would suggest anyone who went to the first gulf war who has chronic fatigue or any of the other gulf war syndrome complaints, to seriously consider getting tested for mycoplasmic infection. in fact, probably wouldn't hurt for anyone suffering with paranoia, to be tested for it, just in case.

reply to post by undo

i would suggest anyone who went to the first gulf war who has chronic fatigue or any of the other gulf war syndrome complaints, to seriously consider getting tested for mycoplasmic infection. in fact, probably wouldn't hurt for anyone suffering with paranoia, to be tested for it, just in case.

Yes, hard to find resources and experience just like that. Thank you, undo.

2nd.

Originally posted by Xoanon
reply to post by undo

 

i would suggest anyone who went to the first gulf war who has chronic fatigue or any of the other gulf war syndrome complaints, to seriously consider getting tested for mycoplasmic infection. in fact, probably wouldn't hurt for anyone suffering with paranoia, to be tested for it, just in case.

Yes, hard to find resources and experience just like that. Thank you, undo.

2nd.

the big thought behind all that is that it's contagious. it's just not airborne (or wasn't at last check). if there are a lot of vets, families of vets or intimate partners of vets, who suffer with related symptoms, it wouldn't hurt for them to be checked for mycoplasms, as well. it also shares similar conditions with lymes disease which have mycoplasmic tick borne infection as their related link.

note in dr. garth nicholson's information in the video below, on the subject of mycoplasmic infections, that the second one on the list is neurobehaviorial disorders. i think that just about covers my input on the subject. you can see the list at the 5:30 mark in the video

i can't say this is definitive, because clearly, some people are truly being harassed for whatever reason. but i will say that these types of disorders, can heighten what would normally be ignored by a healthy individual or not even noticed otherwise, and instead you end up with this elaborate scenario that may or may not have anything to do with reality.

so rather than suggesting it isn't possible that they may indeed have harassment issues, i would suggest at least ruling out a possible health issue. i think after you watch the video i've linked in this post you might see why such a prospect is at least a possibility in some cases, and if the possibility exists, it would behoove you to seek a medical professional to get the appropriate tests.

as far as i know, they are treating it with antibiotics, like doxycycline and one other one i've forgotten the name of off the top of my head. the coma gave me some short term memory damage (not to mention i'm getting old lol).

anyway....

I am highly suspicious of the motivations of the poster - seems he/she is making a play to dissuade people from taking the phenomenon seriously, utilising a load of videos that in themselves prove nothing. There are better forms of evidence one can use to 'prove' (or rather, to instil reasonable doubt in the mind of one who is otherwise convinced that the phenomenon is purely psychological..)

Essentially, I have some experience of these phenomena, over a period of almost twenty years (since I was 13yrs old) - and despite best efforts, I still haven't quite pinned down the 'whodunnit' question - though I do appear to have secured some powerful and decent allies. Nothing formally acknowledged as yet, but informally, I've had innumerable confirmations of observation, of the initial dissatisfaction of the group responsible, and ultimately of a majority consensus that they were 'wrong' to carry out such actions against me - at least to the extent they did.

I'll add some more thoughts perhaps later on, but I don't do so for the sake of being believed - who would necessarily believe someone who explained such seemingly outlandish experiences on ATS? For all any of us know, these mini-autobiographies could simply be well-constructed fiction; however, all I can offer is that my own story is true, insofar as my experience has proffered it to my mind - whether you believe me is of little to no consequence, and I only hope it makes enough sense to help someone decipher their own experience, or at least have something against which to gauge the validity/reality of their perceptions.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


i'm certainly not suggesting that some people are not experiencing real harassment issues. all i'm saying is, considering my own medical history, and considering the information in the video i've linked above, pretty much anyone could benefit from knowing whether they have an ongoing mycoplasmic infection. not because it disproves harassment, but because it's good to rule out other things. imagine if you had a real medical condition that increased or heightened paranoia, on top of being harassed. it would be ten times worse. always good to CYA.

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Belice it or not alot of can with in reasion. See thru bs by your posts. Especaliy over time.. post away need more gs stalking stories in here. This is a very good thread. Good minds in here