Study accidentally exposes chemotherapy as fraud - tumors grow faster after chemo!

Why on earth would anybody put radiation in their body in the first place?

Why not trust nature for a change eh?

Look at vitamin B 17 and Hemp Oil. People have been curing themselves in early stages of cancer with these medicines.

www.cancertutor.com...

www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk...


Hemp oil- www.endalldisease.com...

www.riseearth.com...

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Once again, Chemo is not radioactive, that's radiotherapy you are thinking of.

Secondly, cancer isn't a virus or bacteria, it's the bodies own cells that have ran amok, you can't just "cure it" with antibiotics or vitamin C. The self destruct of the bodies own cells has malfunctioned, so they replicate without destroying themselves, forming tumors. The body can't fight it because it recognises it at its own, therefore on the ok list.

I just have to add to this thread that every person is different, and as such.. will react differently to medications. Cancer and it's treatments are as individual as each of us and should not be compared to anothers cancer or treatment--even if it is the exact cancer and treatment. Our make-up is as a fingerprint and unique unto ourselves.

A treatment that helps one may kill another (ie;my aunt lived, my mom died), and my mother was 11 yrs younger and in good health .. before the cancer which took her 5 months after her Dx (4 yrs ago). My aunt is still living. Another aunt also survived her cancer (ovarian). My uncle died from his a year after my mother. These were my mom, 2 aunts and an uncle- all 4 siblings.

Course of treatment is a very personal choice, but IMO it's all a crapshoot.

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this is horrible news, i really hope there are better treatments on the way for us regular people. i wonder if all the talk about MJ fighting cancer cells is true or not..

My partner is fully qualified practioner of Aromatherapy, Reiki and Reflexology. as such she probably knows far more about natural remedies than every person on ATS. She is also a research nurse and as such knows more about established medicines than people on ATS. She does not hold back on medical matters and questions all that is going on.

She has breast cancer and she is taking chemo, so all you ignorant naysayers think about that.

If people read the article they would see that the only fraud is natural news and it's standard misquoting of medical text:

The result paves the way for research into new, improved treatment, said Nelson.
"For example, an antibody to WNT16B, given with chemotherapy, may improve responses (kill more tumor cells)," he said in an email exchange.


Read more: www.nydailynews.com...

Yeah, it produces a protein. Which can also be prevented. The protein helps tumors grow. So does food. If you stop eating food, the tumor will die too. (So will you). But that's the point, cancer is hard to kill.

Or ask Steve Jobs how his alternative treatments worked out for him.

Like always, you have a medical text stating how it can increase normal cancer treatments efficacy and instead Natural News spins it like it doesn't work at all.



Great job at being illiterate, to all of you that agreed with the OP source...

Here is my story, an up-front and personal experience with cancer and Chemotherapy.

1) Both I and my younger brother by one year were exposed to something somewhere and we both came down with a swollen limp node under our right jaw.
2) We go see our personal physicians (different Doctors) thinking we have some kind of virus but in both cases the doctors want to take a biopsy to check it out.
3) The biopsies come back and both doctors, who are now talking, concur that it is Cancer and need to go see a specialist.
4) Both my brother and I have excellent insurance or at least back then before everybody else and the government screwed it up, and it is decided we will go to the "City Of Hope", which we do but again to separate specialists.
5) Both Cancer Specialists confirm we both have Cancer in our Limp Nodes and recommend a course of treatment, involving drugs, Chemotherapy, surgery and radiation to make sure there are no traces.
6) I tell the Specialist straight-up to go F himself and that he is going to need to go buy another Jag on someone else (he was shocked I knew he drove a Jag but I know the kind of pricks that drive Jags). Any, I tell him there is no way I am taking Chemo or radiation and he is not going to remove a bunch of neck muscles and both my tonsils. Instead, I go to work building up my immune system, taking a mushroom and back concoction and raising my PH using Cesium (I am not giving medical advice here). I then allow them to remove the cancerous Limp node, some limp nodes around the cancerous node and one tonsil. 15 years later, I have not seen that quack since and have had no cancer.
7) My brother on the other hand listened to his wife and the Doctors, and did the prescribed treatment; Chemo, Drugs, Surgery (cut him to pieces) and radiation. He died a truly horrible death over a 4 year period with his system failing one piece at a time. They took a strong vile man of 47 and destroyed him while milking his insurance and personal finances for all there was.

Moral of the story, I would not trust a G D Doctor further than I could spit and if I get sick and die for refusing their treatments, so be it. I was told recently after a check up required by my insurance that I should see a specialist about my heart so I did, just to make my wife happy. He recommended all kinds of crap because my arteries are clogged. Again, I told the "Specialist" where to go and focused again on my diet (NO MEAT, NO SUGAR) and taking a high dosage of serrapeptase based upon a number of people recommendations and YouTubes like this one:


Moral of the story. I am feeling stronger everyday and no doctor made it happen.

PS. As for treating Cancer, I suggest reading the information on this page: www.angelfire.com... It is what I did.

Originally posted by yorkshirelad
My partner is fully qualified practioner of Aromatherapy, Reiki and Reflexology. as such she probably knows far more about natural remedies than every person on ATS. She is also a research nurse and as such knows more about established medicines than people on ATS. She does not hold back on medical matters and questions all that is going on.

She has breast cancer and she is taking chemo, so all you ignorant naysayers think about that.

Yeah, most "naturals" drop their snake oil as soon as reality kicks them in their own ass. I am sorry to hear about your loved one. Unfortunately... Ive seen the same thing first hand. It made me wonder how they could continue pushing their "alternatives" when they themselves dont believe in them...

If the Health Industry that treated cancer wanted to cure cancer, they would have done it by now..

Follow the money. It's all about profits. This is why people who find cures for cancer get shut down quickly (Get paid a lot to shut up)

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Tommy chong had prostate cancer and said he was gonna use ricksimpsons hemp oil to cure him self on Joe rogans podcast. On a later podcast Joe got a update from tommy saying he was 99% cured.



His diagnosis.


His twitter saying he is 99% cured.

twitter.com...

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by Kang69

 

Once again, Chemo is not radioactive, that's radiotherapy you are thinking of.

Secondly, cancer isn't a virus or bacteria, it's the bodies own cells that have ran amok, you can't just "cure it" with antibiotics or vitamin C. The self destruct of the bodies own cells has malfunctioned, so they replicate without destroying themselves, forming tumors. The body can't fight it because it recognises it at its own, therefore on the ok list.

edit on 26/1/13 by woogleuk because: (no reason given)

If you believe this then you are blinkered.

www.grayfieldoptical.com...
(Video shows the cells invaded by the microbe)

There's plenty of evidence to show cancer is triggered by a pleomorphic microbe .
There's even patents on it showing destruction of tumors in mice using pulsed electromagnetic fields
to denature the microbe..

www.geocities.com...
Limbo

Originally posted by woogleuk
You forgot death, agonising lights out death.
Chemotherapy may not be perfect, but if it saves lives, then the side effects are surely worth it?

There are worse things in life than death.
Some people look to death as a sweet release from this life and the pain.


Chemo does save lives. But it also kills.

I was misdiagnosed 2 1/2 years ago (told I had a very hard to kill fungus that was rampant in my body) and underwent a form of chemo. It crossed the brain barrier and caused all sorts of the worst side effects possible. I was on the drug for 10 days .. the side effects lasted well over a month after stopping. It wasn't until I was on the drug 10 days that they changed their mind and said 'oops .. nevermind .. you have Sjogrens with polyneuropathy'.

I will never do any kind of chemo again.
Surgery? Yes. Radiation? Maybe.
But brain barrier crossing chemo? NOPE.

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TAKE SOURFRUIT! IT ALSO IS KNOWN AS GRAVIOLA! EBAY HAS IT! i read a article from rael science and a file on the plant and it turns out it is 10,000X more better for curing cancer then chemo, it also cures 8 types of cancer and a drugg administration abandend the research on the fruit because they could not extract the health properties in a efficiant way so they could market the product.

It occurs to me there are lots of things that will Cure Cancer, all of them cheap and that is why the AMA and Big Pharma have pushed the drug wars, the wars against vitamins and holistic cures, and supported GMOs, because they are Vampires, want to make as much money off of us anyway they can and want to depopulate the planet. Pretty evil...no doubt about it.

There was a time when I did not believe in Vitamins but when I developed this serious cramps and found Cod-liver Oil relieved them within 5 mins, I changed my mind.

Incidentally, I include Dentist on the list with Doctors and why Healthcare is so outrageously expensive. I recently went to the Dentist and they recommended a High Concentrate Fluoride and don't kid me, the prices Dentist charge for their labor and materials is absolutely outrageous. Which is why I have gone through so many Dentists in my life, because they want to be treated like Doctors and Brain surgeons when in fact I have more respect for the mechanic that repairs my cars.

And if you are one of those who believes in and trust Doctors, please be my guest but I sure wish I didn't have to pay for it through Obamacare and Social Services. The AMA and FDA are bleeding the Life's Blood from our country.

So there is a conspiracy going on where doctors conspire to kill people deseased with cancer?
I am sure there are people working hard to come up with something better than chemotherapy at least for some cancer types.

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I am myself faced with same choices, as I was told 3 years ago " You have 8 months". It's amazing what vitamins and other nutrients can do for you. And I would like to thank my Dad for telling me " If don't mind it don't matter", which I now understand is give you mind the directive and let it do it's work. I still believe that cancer is you body's last resort telling you to change you ways or die!

Originally posted by yorkshirelad
My partner is fully qualified practioner of Aromatherapy, Reiki and Reflexology. as such she probably knows far more about natural remedies than every person on ATS. She is also a research nurse and as such knows more about established medicines than people on ATS. She does not hold back on medical matters and questions all that is going on.

She has breast cancer and she is taking chemo, so all you ignorant naysayers think about that.

I had breast cancer, and did not take chemo. I went an alternative route and here I am 11 years later. To each their own. I would never tell someone not to take chemo. When you do that dance with cancer, it's you and the cancer alone. You have to decide what you'll do about it.

The chemo was killing my cousin and everyone in our family knew it. When she went to the doctor and told him she wanted to stop it, he had a fit and convinced her to keep taking it. Well, she continued and it killed her.

I was among many people who saw that chemo was making her cancer spread like wildfire. We tried to convince her to go a different route but her doctor had put so much fear into her, she wouldn't do it.

Ultimately it was her choice, and now we all live with it. I miss her so much. I hate cancer.

Originally posted by Merinda
So there is a conspiracy going on where doctors conspire to kill people deseased with cancer?
I am sure there are people working hard to come up with something better than chemotherapy at least for some cancer types.

There's no conspiracy. It's just a plain and simple fact that it costs a hell of a lot more money to go the medical route. And it's no conspiracy that some doctors are just crooked, and will do whatever they can to make their money. Then we have ignorant doctors who truly believe their path is the only way to go.

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by yorkshirelad
My partner is fully qualified practioner of Aromatherapy, Reiki and Reflexology. as such she probably knows far more about natural remedies than every person on ATS. She is also a research nurse and as such knows more about established medicines than people on ATS. She does not hold back on medical matters and questions all that is going on.

She has breast cancer and she is taking chemo, so all you ignorant naysayers think about that.

Yeah, most "naturals" drop their snake oil as soon as reality kicks them in their own ass. I am sorry to hear about your loved one. Unfortunately... Ive seen the same thing first hand. It made me wonder how they could continue pushing their "alternatives" when they themselves dont believe in them...

I think it's safe to say that there are some alternative therapies that probably would not cure cancer. Would I go for Reiki? Probably not. But you see that's me. I don't believe in Reiki so Reiki would not work for me. Sometimes, it's in the mind. Called faith healing. You can have such a faith in God, that you are cured. I have seen people faith healed. I have seen people pray so much over a baby, that it lived when it wasn't supposed to. I say I have seen miracles.

What is snake oil? Herbs? You realize many drugs we have derive from plants in the ground. Same plants that people will use to cure their own cancers.

Who is anyone to say Aromatherapy can't be part of helping someone heal? When I have a bad stressful day and my heart is racing from stress.... I can take some lavender oil, put it in a bath and I'm calm and the racy feelings are gone.

Now does that mean I would not see a doctor if I had to? Nope. Just means that I give credit to the alternatives.

You know, when you are going through any cancer treatment, you have to change everything. Your nutrition, the way you live, etc. You can't just take chemo and eat Mc donalds and hope to hell it works. JMHO.

No one has all the answers, not any practitioner of any kind. Like someone else said, it's a crap shoot.

Originally posted by NeoVain

Originally posted by Infi8nity
If this is true then how do people survive chemo therapy?

Natrualnews is not a trusted site. They do post good information but some of it does not make sense.

edit on 25-1-2013 by Infi8nity because: (no reason given)

That is why i added a second source.

There is only one source for this information, and that's the original scientific paper published in Nature Medicine. The paper you clearly haven't read.

Instead you've just parroted ignorant crap from biased sources (who also didn't link to the paper, as they know it doesn't say what they are saying it does). Instead of swallowing what other people (with a clear agenda), why don't you read the actual science, think for yourself and then come back...