Taliban think Harry may have a Mental issue

reply to post by DarknStormy


i also "gotta give it to the taliban". a group that supresses, dismembers, tortures, and kills men women and children alike calling other people mentally unstable.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

Well what do you think is going to happen when an army invades a country?

Iraq is a Cluster F@#% and that is why Bush Sr. did not invade during Desert Storm. He knew that Saddams violent tactics were the only thing keeping the countries religious whacko's from killing each other as violence seems to be the only thing those groups understand unfortunately.

We should have never gone in.

Split Infinity

OK, not all Iraqis are religious whackos and most of the ones who have been killed were ordinary people like you and me. I understand that there would be some Iraqis who would be classed as extremists but to label an entire country "Religious Whackos" is ridiculous.

The only reason why I think we shouldn't have gone in is because of the bs excuse that was used and now is a proven lie. The amount of people who have died in that country was not worth the invasion. Everything that we blamed Saddam for over the years, we somehow replicated ourselves with our intervention but worse and we wonder why Iraqis say things like "things were better under Saddam".

Originally posted by DuckforcoveR
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

i also "gotta give it to the taliban". a group that supresses, dismembers, tortures, and kills men women and children alike calling other people mentally unstable.

I understad they do bad things, but answer me this. We condemn these fighters in Afghanistan for the atrocities they committ against women and children. But when it comes to another country where the same thing is happening on a daily basis, in more brutal ways by a group which has been funded and armed by the West and allies, we openly support their atrocities.. How does that work?

In one place its a crime - In another place we accept it. Wheres the logic?

reply to post by DarknStormy


I was not implying that the majority of Iraqi's are whacko's...I was talking about the small minority of extremists who are specific to the Sunni/Shia conflict being able to terorize an entire country with a few bombs here and there.

Add to this the Shia Majority having direct ties to Iran...a country that has had Quds Force Members apprehended by U.S. Forces as they were caught Red Handed delivering and advising Shia Iraqi's how to properly set Shaped Charges IED's which are capable of destroying most Mechanised Vehicles.

Bush Sr. being a former CIA Chief KNEW the issues that would be involved had the U.S. invaded Iraq during Desert Storm...why his son did not listen to him I have no idea.

Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Gotcha

But this is what I don't understand.. We say Al-Qaeda are in Iraq and Iran deny any dialogue with the terrorist organisation. Why would they be helping groups which they claim to have no contact with? Are Al-Qaeda even in Iraq or are we simply fighting Iraqi extremists?

reply to post by DarknStormy


Well they are their NOW! LOL!

They were not before and this idea is fantasy. Everyone I know who is in the information business all have said...they were not in Iraq until it became unstable as they came in to back the Minority Sunni Tribes.

Split Infinity

Originally posted by DuckforcoveR
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

i also "gotta give it to the taliban". a group that supresses, dismembers, tortures, and kills men women and children alike calling other people mentally unstable.

Kind of sounds like the Clinton clan, the Bush clan and Obama overthrowing governments, murdering, torturing, raping, stealing and trafficking contraband ....... while claiming resistance fighters are terrorists. I know it's damn hard to see past the propaganda, but you need to put forth a good faith effort.

reply to post by jcarpenter


Stop right there.

The Taliban are NOT resistance fighters.

The name Resistance Fighter is applied to any person who is acting as a soldier to fight against an occupying force on the behalf of the wishes of the people.

The Taliban do not fight for either the wishes of the people of Afghanistan nor are their interests based upon the peoples welfare and best interest.

The Taliban brutilize their own people and will use them in any way...including killing one child of two in order to force the Mother or Father to strap on a suicide vest and suicide bomb a U.S. Check Point. In almost every case even after one parent actaully does this...the remaining child and remaining parent are killed as to not be capable of being a witness.

You are talking about things that you neither have experience in or have knowledge as to what the reality is.

I can tell you that you would not be defending the Taliban if you were an Afghan Villager in the North.

Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity

The name Resistance Fighter is applied to any person who is acting as a soldier to fight against an occupying force on the behalf of the wishes of the people.

The Taliban do not fight for either the wishes of the people of Afghanistan nor are their interests based upon the peoples welfare and best interest.

Thats debatable.

It appears that the people prefer the Taliban over NATO and the Afghan government.

The harsh reality is that an increasing number of Afghans are turning to the Taliban, having grown mistrustful of Nato and Afghan forces.

In remote parts of the country where the government rules only on paper, the Taliban are often preferred.

And its easy to see why

In Kunduz in the north, for instance, several militia commanders working for the government have been accused of extortion, robbery and rape, but not one has ever been tried.

One Kabul man I spoke to, Jamshid, a fruit vendor in his 30s, compared the judicial system of the Karzai administration with the desert courts of the Taliban. "The Taliban courts were swift and strict," he said with admiration.

BBC article : Why Taliban are so strong in Afghanistan


Some additional reading...

Afghan people prefer to live under the Taliban

After a gang of bandits continuously terrorized the district of Porak last month, the villagers could not stand it any longer. "We complained several times to the government and even showed them where the thieves lived," Ahmad, a local resident said.

But those bandits are still operating freely. So the resident of Porak began to turn to the Taliban to raise their complaints. In no time Taliban fighters showed up. They tried and convicted the gangsters and threatened harsher punishments should they be caught stealing again. The bandits have not showed up since then.

Originally posted by PeaceNLove123
The Taliban talk about "our people" as if they give a damn about em. They shoot kids for wanting an education. They kill and behead anyone who doesn't follow their religion. They oppress women, and treat them like baby-manufacturing machines. They don't believe in people's freedoms and rights. And here they are, claiming that Harry's got a mental disorder? I think irony just bitch-slapped itself.

The irony is reading posts expressing moral superiority over the taliban when every single western group is far worse. The taliban are just inbred, backwards, cultist f**ks that have never matured. They are the small-fry manufactured boogiemen of the moment.

Excelling at terrorism and crimes-against-humanity requires a multidisciplinary approach that only Washington can supply. They combine propaganda with the smooth presentation of the controlled mainstream media. When their efforts really work, it results in individuals like you waving the flag and looking down your nose at the boogymen-of-the-moment. All the while, they laugh while they pull false flags, wage war on and off the battlefield and loot our country and other countries. And of course, they do all of this while trafficking drugs, weapons, nuclear material and other contraband. Adding insult to injury, they have implemented "no fly" lists that are blatantly unconstitutional.

Who's bitch-slapping who?

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Stop right there.

The Taliban are NOT resistance fighters.

The name Resistance Fighter is applied to any person who is acting as a soldier to fight against an occupying force on the behalf of the wishes of the people.

Interesting definition.

But like it or not, they are an indigenous component of a population that is being victimized by US forces. They are fighting to expel invaders. As far as I'm concerned, that's resistance. You can believe what you wish.

In support of my view, the French resistance in WW2 did not represent the Vichy government or their supporters. But you will find few people today that will not describe them as "resistance".

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


The Afghan Government is currupt and is highly involved in the drug trade. It is true that some Villages that are Highly Religious and identify with the Taliban favor the Taliban over their Government...but this is more to do with the general opinion of Afghans that once the U.S. leaves that they will be left with the Taliban and may have to endure punishment for any cooperation with Western Forces.

The Taliban are not much more than a bunch of thugs that hide under religious beliefs. The Taliban are greatly responsible for the rape of both male and female children even though they profess to be of a strict form of Religious Beliefs.

Split Infinity

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by sk0rpi0n

 

The Taliban are not much more than a bunch of thugs that hide under religious beliefs. The Taliban are greatly responsible for the rape of both male and female children even though they profess to be of a strict form of Religious Beliefs.

Split Infinity

Sounds very similar to a bunch of thugs running around in Syria But in that neck of the woods we are openly supporting them..

reply to post by jcarpenter


The Vichy Government was not Voted into office as the obviously corrupt Afghan Government was. The Taliban are not fighting in any manner that would benefit the people of Afghanistan. They fight only specific battles for the purpose of building up their Own Fable.

Such attacks are of little Military importance but to kill a few U.S. Soldiers in a vehicle by way of IED allows them to place such an attack on the Web and thus build up a following. Thir only goal is to assume control of Afghanistan for the purpose of regaining power over the people.

Split Infinity

reply to post by ollncasino
True,but back in the 80's they were allies with the west.I know it's a cheesy reference but check out the bond flick "the living daylights".How soon we forget.The enemy of my enemy is my friend,it happens all the time.just sayin.

reply to post by SplitInfinity

The Afghan Government is currupt and is highly involved in the drug trade. It is true that some Villages that are Highly Religious and identify with the Taliban favor the Taliban over their Government..

Not because they are highly religious.
Living in a lawless land, they seem to prefer the guys who can sort their matters out for them... and the NATO / US backed government don't seem to be up to the mark in that regard. The Taliban have already won the war for hearts and minds.

This is exactly how the Taliban rose to power in the first place.. when they helped villagers and rescued women being raped by warlords, after Russias exit.

However, when the Russians were replaced by predatory warlords, who robbed, raped and abused the villagers, Mullah Omar was chosen by his former comrades to lead a militia of fighters who would restore order.

source
(Mullah Omar was the guy who pretty much founded the Taliban.)

So the war was not just about bombing the country back into the stone age.
Just imagine how badly the invaders failed... if the people they once freed now actually want the Taliban back.

Originally posted by turkey79
reply to post by ollncasino

 

True,but back in the 80's they were allies with the west.I know it's a cheesy reference but check out the bond flick "the living daylights".How soon we forget.The enemy of my enemy is my friend,it happens all the time.just sayin.

The same could be said for every country we have invaded in the last decade.

- Saddam Hussein was used and Funded by the West to attack Iran

- Syria also aligned with the West in Iraq

- Taliban were funded by the West in the 80's

We seen to be running around in circles. When we have dealt with these idiots, we will find more idiots to attack and we will be doing circle work again with a new threat.

reply to post by DarknStormy


The reality is that the United States will do whatever is in it's best interest as the case has always been. Still...when compared to the actions or mostly inactions of the vast majority of other nations that either look away or do not provide things such as Food, Medacine, Water and other Aid for which the U.S. does and has been doing for a long time and in quantities that dwarf all other Counties Aid by many times...the U.S. can at least be seen as trying to do something.

Such is the way of things as if we don't do anyhting people around the World scream...Where is the United States in all of this!? If we actually do something they scream...Get Out! LOL!

Split Infinity

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


LOL! And just who do you think funded the at the time named Freedom Fighter that eventually became the Taliban? The U.S. by way of Charlie Wilson and the CIA! LOL!

Without the CIA and Charlie Wilson they would ahve all been killed by the Soviets.

Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Maybe so, but I don't see how that is irrelevant to what I pointed out earlier... about the Taliban being preferred by the villagers... over the NATO/US backed government.