Why don't flying saucers create this conical wave & sonic boom?

Not talking about the spherical lights type of UFO. Nor the giant triangles. Instead, the flying saucers. Many reports say they fly off at incredibly speeds, sometimes in relation to fast-flying jets as witnessed by experienced military pilots from inside the cockpit.

I'm thinking:
Since they have have anti-gravity technology to propel the craft, they would have similar anti-gravity to buffer the occupants from extreme G-forces. But that doesn't explain how the craft counteracts air resistance.

The swept wing configuration of jet planes allows them to fly past the sound barrier. A disc configuration would not. So they must have some other technology that displaces viscous fluids? Would some kind of energy field do away with sonic booms? Maybe that's why contact witnesses say the metallic disc feel hot to the touch? Other hypothesis?

idk but that video was awesome I have never seen that before!

reply to post by FormerSkeptic


Could you Imagine if you went back to say, King Arthurs Court, handed them a Cell Phone , and asked them to explain how it works.

Thats the same as asking us to explain their Mode of Travel.

We can offer Intelligent Guesses , based on our Tech, but Answers, not so much.

I'd guess at it being like throwing or slingshotting one of those model planes (not the engine propelled ones) as they whizz past you can still hear the gushing of the air or whatever. But if you have ever thrown one of those Aerobie flying disks, no matter how hard or far you throw it (world record is over 1km) they are completely silent, so im guessing if they also had a silent propulsion method, it would be similar.

Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
idk but that video was awesome I have never seen that before!

Yeah I figured this forum needed something refreshing and [almost] down to Earth.

Originally posted by FormerSkeptic
So they must have some other technology that displaces viscous fluids? Or would an energy field do away with sonic booms? Maybe that's why contact witnesses say they feel hot to the touch? Other hypothesis?

"Real" UFOs don't have N-waves, per se. Thus no Prandtl-Glauert singularities.

Because they are NOT flying saucers...

They are NOT who they claim to be.

The entire ET scenario DEPENDS on an illusion.

Vallee, John Keel, Hynek, etc have all made this VERY clear.

The truth about UFOs & ETs is covered up in order to hide the real stealth agenda.

"those little stinking, lying buggers ARE demons..." ~ "The GUT"

“UFOs are real but they are not physical. They are messengers of deception”Jacques Vallee

"We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which is largely indigenous to planet earth." - Brad Steiger

Originally posted by Bedlam
"Real" UFOs don't have N-waves, per se. Thus no Prandtl-Glauert singularities.

Yes. Probably a completely different technology where thermodynamic perturbations are nullified. It's part of why they don't make any sound. Air friction would otherwise require them to wear heat tiles like the Space Shuttle.

A very interesting topic.

My first thought is, to accelerate a craft like that with no sonic boom, would require technology that would create a "void" in front of the craft. There can be no air, moisture or gravity.

The only conceivable way in our definition of physics is to become massless. If you could become massless it would solve a whole bunch of problems dealing with space travel.

Let me see... Ummmmm...Ahhhhhh.... Oh, because there are NO flying saucers?

Because a dark matter accelerator does not move the vessel, but the universe around it!!!

reply to post by Murgatroid


Oh. Of course.

It's demons.


How silly of us.

Originally posted by litterbaux
A very interesting topic.

My first thought is, to accelerate a craft like that with no sonic boom, would require technology that would create a "void" in front of the craft. There can be no air, moisture or gravity.

The only conceivable way in our definition of physics is to become massless. If you could become massless it would solve a whole bunch of problems dealing with space travel.

There's already a Newtonian relationship between mass and energy. There could be another energy related to space and time where mass seems negated but actually only hinged against another dimension.

Funny things (at least in the eyes of primitives) happen when you use a gravitic propulsion system that consumes everything (atoms as well as photons, including gravitons) in its path to use as fuel. Or so-called flying saucers are just projections on clouds from searchlights, corroborated by an occasional radar glitch, and there's nothing new to be learned in physics.

According to the book: "Unconventional Flying Objects" by Paul Hill who was a NASA engineer who studied flying saucer flight characteristics; he concluded that in order to prevent a sonic boom, the craft projected an anti-gravity beam forwards that made the airflow laminar around the ship and suppressed the sonic boom. He was a clever guy and it sounds very plausible to me. I would recommend reading it.

They may use sound as propulsion itself which is way above or below human detection which could counteract any sound that may be produced.

mythbusters did this already it is because of its shape
second

Originally posted by Dr X
According to the book: "Unconventional Flying Objects" by Paul Hill who was a NASA engineer who studied flying saucer flight characteristics; he concluded that in order to prevent a sonic boom, the craft projected an anti-gravity beam forwards that made the airflow laminar around the ship and suppressed the sonic boom. He was a clever guy and it sounds very plausible to me. I would recommend reading it.

Why would "anti gravity" be formable into a beam?

Laminar flow, now that's interesting, and likely even why there's no N-wave. But, hmm, how other than "anti gravity" might one explain such a thing? Hmm.

reply to post by FormerSkeptic


Being an aerodynamic effect it probably depends on the shape of the object. There weren't any tests done with flying saucers (as far as I know), so we don't know if they do create the n-wave and sonic boom.

It also depends on the speed of the object, when the speed is too high the conical wave gets thinner and the sonic boom weaker (I think).

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by FormerSkeptic

 

Being an aerodynamic effect it probably depends on the shape of the object. There weren't any tests done with flying saucers (as far as I know), so we don't know if they do create the n-wave and sonic boom.

It also depends on the speed of the object, when the speed is too high the conical wave gets thinner and the sonic boom weaker (I think).

There were. Convair's Pye Wacket feasability study.

www.dtic.mil...