Sandy Hook - Questions From a Concerned Parent

reply to post by Marlow


Not to rain on your parade, but the news clip you posted is not altered. All you are witnessing with the breath is a play of shadow and light. Happens all the time when filming.

Notice, when they cut to the wider shot, the sun is extremely bright in the background. On location they use sun shades when the sun is beaming, to diffuse the light and make it so that the people are on camera are not shiny, and not squinting.

All that video shows is the 'breath fog' moving in and out of the light.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

Okay, you got me with this one. I retract my allegations of media fakery for this time

This awesome 10 minute helicopter footage video in HD of Sandy Hook is like a disturbing moving version of 'Where's Waldo?"

'Waldo' in this case being anything you want him to be... ie: Concerned parents, police, emergency services, kids, trauma, bodies, stress, Gene, logic, biscuits and SHADOWS.



And while I'm here I'm wondering if there is any evidence of Adam Lanza being alive in the last three years...
... lest we forget...

Originally posted by manmental
This awesome 10 minute helicopter footage video in HD of Sandy Hook is like a disturbing moving version of 'Where's Waldo?"

'Waldo' in this case being anything you want him to be... ie: Concerned parents, police, emergency services, kids, trauma, bodies, stress, Gene, logic, biscuits and SHADOWS.

"Where's Gene?" is already answered here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Maybe he bought just some biscuits at the firehouse
for the kids who stayed meanwhile alone in his home.

I've been sitting in my room watching tv for awhile kind of going in and out of paying attention to it. King of the hill came on its not one of my favorite shows but an episode came on called Nancy does Dallas. It's so similar to the sandy hook shooting its ridiculous. This may have already been brought up somewhere and if it has I apoogize. But for theres who havent saw this episode. Basically what happens is Nancy gets a call about a student at an elementary school that brought his pet possum there, the man on the phone tells her to go film it. So Nancy is complaining to her husband how she doesnt want to go and he tells her this could be big and that she is a genious from making something from nothing...But anyways Nancy gets to the little kids school and asks the little boy how he snuck the possum past school security. The little kid says whats security? Nancy says Exactly, A question far to many schools are asking. And then she talks about what would have happened had this little boy been an intruder and his sweet little possum had been a gun.... Which then hank and peggy have an interesting conversation after that talking about how what could have happened is actually more important than what really did happen. Hank then goes on and talks about how this story isnt actually news while everyone else is freaking out.And he basically keeps repeating how nothing happened. I just think its weird how they chose a possum. possums play dead.

reply to post by Marlow


No. Don't be ridiculous. The nose thing is just a digital video error. It would make zero sense for there to be a green screened background but then one lonely strip of green screen in front of Cooper that he could lose his nose behind.

As for the steam, that is a case of the light hitting the steam and making it visible at an angle. Again it would make no sense for green screen to be in front of the reporters at all.

This unfortunately stems from a lot of people not knowing how green/blue screen works.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
No. Don't be ridiculous. The nose thing is just a digital video error. It would make zero sense for there to be a green screened background but then one lonely strip of green screen in front of Cooper that he could lose his nose behind.

As for the steam, that is a case of the light hitting the steam and making it visible at an angle. Again it would make no sense for green screen to be in front of the reporters at all.

This unfortunately stems from a lot of people not knowing how green/blue screen works.

No, this stems from you not understanding how CGI works. Green screens are no longer used, look into it.

And you don't appear to even understand how a green screen works. Even if a green or blue screen was used, WHY would his nose disappear? His nose is neither green nor blue, only colors that match the screen will become "transparent".

Regardless, a colored screen is entirely unnecessary for modern day CGI background after-effects.

reply to post by BrandonD


Way off topic. As a film maker specialising in post production effects I can say that all sorts of anomalies can happen with green/blue screens and noses disappearing from a live feed is the norm..

Don't focus on disappearing noses.

That is Alex Jones Mental Dis info Territory

Focus on lack of logic and all the contradictions.

When is the SH case in court?

And what happened to the Aurora cinema court case... wasn't that supposed to happen?

Originally posted by manmental
Way off topic. As a film maker specialising in post production effects I can say that all sorts of anomalies can happen with green/blue screens and noses disappearing from a live feed is the norm..

Don't focus on disappearing noses.

That is Alex Jones Mental Dis info Territory

Focus on lack of logic and all the contradictions.

When is the SH case in court?

And what happened to the Aurora cinema court case... wasn't that supposed to happen?

edit on 29-1-2013 by manmental because: (no reason given)

I agree, there are many inconsistencies with the case. I can't make a conclusion of what these inconsistencies imply, perhaps it's meant to be intentionally confusing.

reply to post by BrandonD

GO REREAD MY COMMENT

Man.. you don't know what you are talking about. I have a pretty solid understanding of cgi and I would venture to say more so than yourself. It wasn't my theory so I am not addressing effects accomplished without green screen. I am talking about green screen. Yes it is still very commonly used, and I know all about after effects I took some film courses and my best friend graduated from the film department of University of New Orleans. I know plenty on the subject. In order for his nose to disappear due to green screen there would have to be a something/a screen in the foreground which wouldn't make sense. They would have to need to hide something or make it look like Cooper was there when he wasn't but neither of those things make any sense. His nose changing has more to do with it being filmed digitally. The steam scene is all about the lighting.

If you reread my comment you will understand how his nose would disappear in a green screen situation and why is said it was not likely. I said for that to happen his nose would have to be disappearing behind a strip of green screen in the foreground and that makes no sense, but that is what would have to be in place in order to explain his nose disappearing. It's really annoying when people comment to basically call you stupid when in reality the problem is their own reading comprehension.

I know what I am talking about. I don't know why you addressed me to say green screen isn't used (though it is) when I wasn't the one that originally brought it up.

Do some research please, and follow other people's replies back to where they originated before butting in.

reply to post by manmental


If you are indeed into film making.. tell this character above that green screens are still extremely common and actually the norm. It depends on if you are replacing and entire environment or working on localized effects.

Originally posted by BrandonD

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
No. Don't be ridiculous. The nose thing is just a digital video error. It would make zero sense for there to be a green screened background but then one lonely strip of green screen in front of Cooper that he could lose his nose behind.

As for the steam, that is a case of the light hitting the steam and making it visible at an angle. Again it would make no sense for green screen to be in front of the reporters at all.

This unfortunately stems from a lot of people not knowing how green/blue screen works.

No, this stems from you not understanding how CGI works. Green screens are no longer used, look into it.

And you don't appear to even understand how a green screen works. Even if a green or blue screen was used, WHY would his nose disappear? His nose is neither green nor blue, only colors that match the screen will become "transparent".

Regardless, a colored screen is entirely unnecessary for modern day CGI background after-effects.

Green screen is still used quite often, on lower budget productions and on tv, especially. Blue screen is all but gone, but green screen is used a lot.

Poor camera and effects equipment can cause things in front of a green screen to lose their shape, even if they arent the color of the screen.

Originally posted by manmental


When is the SH case in court?

And what happened to the Aurora cinema court case... wasn't that supposed to happen?

edit on 29-1-2013 by manmental because: (no reason given)

Why would SH go to trial?

And the aurora case has already begun, at least the prelim stages.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


They are going to allow one video camera and one still camera in the court over Aurora. I don't know if it's for sentencing or what, but I read that recently.

Originally posted by gidwa

Originally posted by loueber
I dont know if it was posted before from others, or if this statement needs its own thread, but i have direct feed from one of the investigators of Sandy Hook. He was on the investigation for 2 weeks. He confirmed that there were NO assault riffles ( AR 15s) used in the shooting. the Shooter was found only with 4 handguns. All large weapons were found in the trunk of his car and was not used. At all.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean when you say you have "direct feed" from one of the investigators. You mean he is talking to you personally, or is there something on the internet you can link to? What is his name, would it have been mentioned in the MSM?

I have direct feed as in: a member of my family is in law enforcement.
and that member was in contact with one of the investigators of the incident.
my family member instructed me to not provide the name of the investigator in Sandy hook, or him/her self if i were to post or give that info out. Both are worried about their job if information is given out that shouldn't be given out

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by BrandonD

 

GO REREAD MY COMMENT

Man.. you don't know what you are talking about. I have a pretty solid understanding of cgi and I would venture to say more so than yourself. It wasn't my theory so I am not addressing effects accomplished without green screen. I am talking about green screen. Yes it is still very commonly used, and I know all about after effects I took some film courses and my best friend graduated from the film department of University of New Orleans. I know plenty on the subject. In order for his nose to disappear due to green screen there would have to be a something/a screen in the foreground which wouldn't make sense. They would have to need to hide something or make it look like Cooper was there when he wasn't but neither of those things make any sense. His nose changing has more to do with it being filmed digitally. The steam scene is all about the lighting.

If you reread my comment you will understand how his nose would disappear in a green screen situation and why is said it was not likely. I said for that to happen his nose would have to be disappearing behind a strip of green screen in the foreground and that makes no sense, but that is what would have to be in place in order to explain his nose disappearing. It's really annoying when people comment to basically call you stupid when in reality the problem is their own reading comprehension.

I know what I am talking about. I don't know why you addressed me to say green screen isn't used (though it is) when I wasn't the one that originally brought it up.

Do some research please, and follow other people's replies back to where they originated before butting in.

edit on 29-1-2013 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)

You're right, I misread your comment. Sorry bout that.

I sent the following message to "Thericoman1973" just sort of randomly but then realized after that maybe I was meant to contact him as I have done many times with different people....I will only talk to one person now regarding these....

"Congratulations it was a hoax!!! now what? I don't know if you're the person I should be talking to. there are so many Sandy Hook videos and I'm not looking all day to find the right guy but, I predicted this when I was about 7 or 8 and I made my "father" take me there twice...at least. It didn't really look what I had seen because the side entrance wasn't there at the time so, I had walked around the building several times and I still couldn't get it. Thing is, they believed my warning and in all likelihood it was set up to catch the suspect. Now, this wasn't really a one off thing for me, I've told people a lot of things when I was younger. It got to be overwhelming for my "parents" so they made me see a doctor who used hypnosis to quiet down these visions and such. It's fairly recent that I started to remember all this stuff and Sandy Hook was something that I could remember and I had to see the videos which brought me here."

When I say predict there is always the chance that these were actually memories and any good investigator could find out that what I am saying is truth if they dig around in the right places.

Edit: when I say the "memories" it means things that I believe I was shown.