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Woe to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness!

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In your vile and confused attack on me, you do bring up an important question

Confusion on your part unless you wish to show this vile attack on you. I ask questions and respond in balance to whats dished out to others and myself.

I have claims to make which some would consider a lot wilder than what your considering, I became a member of ATS after years of browsing to see if this really is the avenue to share my thoughts. Before going in that direction I chose to play a skeptical part to see the reactions of people making claims of witnessing a UFO, channeling an external source, out of body experiences, religious experiences, paranormal experiences and so on.

Many if not most when challenged with questions, just questions, they become defensive or worse,

Which I suspect then is more psychological as in people wanting attention due to an infinite amount possibilities.

If I chose to share my experiences I know there is and will be nothing to be defensive about.
So I wait, time and time again someone posts a thread telling me how it is or what my reality is etc which is why I wait to share and defend the reality that what people like to say "this is how it is" and "what you know is wrong" is just a little tunnel vision on their part, which is what I am doing in this thread. Its all your opinion which seems as though its just merged together from a number of conspiracy theorists/authors. You refuse to link to anything knowing it will open a debate you cannot win with a rational state of mind.

Its just a pity this was in the UFO forum.

Originally posted by polyphemus75
Woe to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness!

Whoa Whoa

are you suggesting that I am being unjust in badmouthing Greys while they are God's little helpers ?

You need to wake up and smell the sulfur and acid

Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Which I suspect then is more psychological as in people wanting attention due to an infinite amount possibilities.

If I chose to share my experiences I know there is and will be nothing to be defensive about.
So I wait, time and time again someone posts a thread telling me how it is or what my reality is etc which is why I wait to share and defend the reality that what people like to say "this is how it is" and "what you know is wrong" is just a little tunnel vision on their part, which is what I am doing in this thread. Its all your opinion which seems as though its just merged together from a number of conspiracy theorists/authors. You refuse to link to anything knowing it will open a debate you cannot win with a rational state of mind.

Its just a pity this was in the UFO forum.

Think about what you just wrote, and by the way you didn't want to quote me fully to show how I addresses the point you made.

But stop and think about what you are saying right now.

You are saying that I am wrong (which is fine) and how you are disappointed (which is fine) and then you continue to say how YOU have a much deeper something, but you won't share with the rest of us.

It is like you are saying, my dad is bigger than your dad, but my dad is invisible.

WHY DON'T YOU MAN UP..........AND SHARE WHAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

Think about what you just wrote, and by the way you didn't want to quote me fully to show how I addresses the point you made.

What for, I addressed the part where you accuse me of a vile attack on you and ask you to show this vile attack, can you?

But stop and think about what you are saying right now. You are saying that I am wrong (which is fine) and how you are disappointed (which is fine) and then you continue to say how YOU have a much deeper something, but you won't share with the rest of us.

How could simple words be interpreted so wrong.

Where have I made any judgment on you be right or wrong?

Disappointment because you placed this in the UFO forum and refuse to answer questions about your sources and mock others in this thread for making claims contradictory to yours.

It is like you are saying, my dad is bigger than your dad, but my dad is invisible.

Sure if you wish to see that way, then I know a little better who I am dealing with.

So as you say

WHY DON'T YOU MAN UP..........AND SHARE WHAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

You could man up and be prepared to show how your years of research lead you to where you are, what sources you used over the years but its easier just to do as you do and deflect questions about the story you want us to listen to.

I feel so much better now that someone has came out and regurgitated all the info on the net and then forced it down my throat as fact. When will there finally be some REAL PROOF to all the STORIES we hear over and over...

I have never even spoken with a person that has seen a real UFO and Alien.

It's almost as if there is another reality in which these things actually happen and I am not part of it.

Originally posted by knowledgedesired
I have never even spoken with a person that has seen a real UFO and Alien.

It's almost as if there is another reality in which these things actually happen and I am not part of it.

And WHEN did you take the effort to find and speak with a person who saw a UFO ?

You are a person with a lazy mind

I heard pot makes you lazy over time, not saying......just saying



PS: ok screw it, I am done with this thread, thank you all, thank you for agrees AND disagrees, love you all (even paid posters because they are foolish victims too)

Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

Originally posted by knowledgedesired
I have never even spoken with a person that has seen a real UFO and Alien.

It's almost as if there is another reality in which these things actually happen and I am not part of it.

And WHEN did you take the effort to find and speak with a person who saw a UFO ?

You are a person with a lazy mind

I heard pot makes you lazy over time, not saying......just saying

Precisely my point about being defensive, and abusive to guests in your thread offering their opinion.

Years of research, was MUM and DAD reading UFO books at bed time and you consider that research.

You come across as being arrogant early teen years, forget manning up just mature a little.

Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Precisely my point about being defensive, and abusive to guests in your thread offering their opinion.

Years of research, was MUM and DAD reading UFO books at bed time and you consider that research.

You come across as being arrogant early teen years, forget manning up just mature a little.

WWHHHAAATTTTTTTT

You show up on ATS Aliens thread

and you say how you never even spoke with a person who saw a UFO admitting that for you they don't exist

And you have the audacity to lecture me.

And even call me teenager.

Why you are lucky this isn't the olden days where I would ask you to meet me with swords or pistols sir.

But seeing how you are a kid in mom's basement, I forgive you, I was once a foolish little Ahole too.

One time, I told a man who just lost his son, how God doesn't exist and his son really is dead. Geez talk about nasty.

Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Precisely my point about being defensive, and abusive to guests in your thread offering their opinion.

Years of research, was MUM and DAD reading UFO books at bed time and you consider that research.

You come across as being arrogant early teen years, forget manning up just mature a little.

WWHHHAAATTTTTTTT

You show up on ATS Aliens thread

and you say how you never even spoke with a person who saw a UFO admitting that for you they don't exist

And you have the audacity to lecture me.

And even call me teenager.

Why you are lucky this isn't the olden days where I would ask you to meet me with swords or pistols sir.

But seeing how you are a kid in mom's basement, I forgive you, I was once a foolish little Ahole too.

One time, I told a man who just lost his son, how God doesn't exist and his son really is dead. Geez talk about nasty.

You need to calm down and read and learn to comprehend what you read.

I never called you a teenager, but you keep coming across as a young arrogant teen with inability to reason.

I never said any such thing as not speaking to a person who witnessed a UFO, that was another poster.

I earlier pointed out you reactions to some posts and then highlighted your last post which is precisely the point I was making earlier for getting all defensive and as you were to the poster above almost abusive and a hypocrite,

You know why, your lazy for not caring to show us anything other than your word in a forum where evidence of claims or sources where info is from is required.

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Why you are lucky this isn't the olden days where I would ask you to meet me with swords or pistols sir.

Threatening as you might sound,

do not ask for things you really would avoid if presented

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by Specimen
Universe people/GFL believers. I thought those cultist believes would actually die off after 2012. Apparently I thought wrong.

Yep just like Heaven's Gate, the GFL really are a CULT and should be exposed as such.

I can't believe people actually believe the stuff they put out, it's like its straight out a science fiction book... It's well known that GFL is a government Psyop anyway.

edit on 22-1-2013 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

All religions are CULTS including yours!!!!

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I think you need to look up the meaning of the word cult. And personally I hate religion.

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I work 40 hours a week, go to the regular gym 6 days a week, train Muay Thai 3 days a week plus I have only used a repair man for my house/car a few times in my entire life... I have two kids and help with school work daily.

No i don't hang out at UFO conventions...
No i don't go to UFO seminars..
So if that makes me lazy then so be it.

My point is... even though it is occurring which I am sure it is it as almost as if it is not occurring by the people I have met in my life time.

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Pot calling the kettle black. It would seem like your the paid poster here. How much did the GFL pay you?

I have had instence interest in this subject even though I have no experience or information to add. That being said there is no evidence either proving or disproving any of the information provided here. Who's to say that some of you guys do have real answers either based on investigation or real life experience. So since you claim to know who these groups are then I ask what do they want from us?

Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

PS: ok screw it, I am done with this thread, thank you all, thank you for agrees AND disagrees, love you all (even paid posters because they are foolish victims too)

edit on 23-1-2013 by JewAgainstZionism because: (no reason given)

Before you go there fella. You may have missed my question. If you are so sure about all the info in the OP, in fact stating it as fact, why not produce it to SETI? emails can be found on their website

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I did research on UFO's for about 25 years and I have come up
with the following...
1.The UFO occupants are not benevolent,they are demonic in nature.
2.I believe them to be inter-dimensional,not extraterrestrial.

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Well the difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of followers. If I remember correctly cults were the second tier or the status before they can become a religion recognized, and I think it was 1000 ppl it took for it to become a religion.

And the GFL just had nothing more then a cult following ever since those billy meier stories were made, and then they kinda escalated from there on. Really I doubt the guv would want to waste money for sumthing like tht when people will do just to make money. Hardly any conspiracy there, just dumb asses that want money.

Besides I doubt civilizations from other planets would constantly keep abducting and performing genetic experiments specifically the ones that have been around for a long time. Especially since they`d know much more about human genetics, body chemistry, and even biology. Unless the common rumours about the Greys using our species sperm and eggs to create bodies or even might improve their from some of the things I` ve heard or have read about them. Like the one story from Ancient Aliens that the greys were actually human, and had messed with their gene pool so much, that the travel back in time to correct their gene pool, or even some how try to prevent us from makin the same mistake.

Other then tht, alien abductions could be intrusive or traumatic memories coming back to them, and the brain performs a little defense mechinaism to make the person think it was an abduction...And really I don`t wanna bring it to topic.