Why the Moon Landings Could Have Never EVER Been Faked: The Definitive Proof

reply to post by MrN9k

Also, the issue of the camera cross hairs showing up behind some of the backgrounds?

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This happens in several pictures. evidenceaone.blogspot.co.uk... Is one article about this.

If you are going to make lazy posts, I will make lazy posts:

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reply to post by DJW001


Your video is a better link. Thanks... However we must be watching different videos! I can not see the flap move at all! I see the helmet appear at the top of the jump, but not the flap. I must be blind...

reply to post by MrN9k

Your video is a better link. Thanks... However we must be watching different videos! I can not see the flap move at all! I see the helmet appear at the top of the jump, but not the flap. I must be blind...

Try watching on "full screen." If you can't see the flap flapping between jumps, you are blind.

reply to post by MrN9k


Maybe this will help:

reply to post by DJW001


So... When a thin black line disappears its "camera bleeding" but, when you can see thin black wires holding them up it's an artefact? How about www.youtube.com... At 2:10. Does it look natural how the guy picks the other guy up? He appears to be magically lifted up in the air at one point.

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I can see something appearing to appear in and out of shot behind his suit, but I think that's his helmet. The flap has to be up, at the top of the jump for it to match the photo. I think it should be a lot more visible than whatever we are seeing in this video is.

Originally posted by MrN9k
reply to post by DJW001

 

So... When a thin black line disappears its "camera bleeding" but, when you can see thin black wires holding them up it's an artefact? How about www.youtube.com... At 2:10. Does it look natural how the guy picks the other guy up? He appears to be magically lifted up in the air at one point.

edit on 20-2-2013 by MrN9k because: (no reason given)

The vid you link on this post shows the flap flipping up at 20 or 21 seconds in, a clear flapping going on.


Case closed, nail in the coffin, marbles picked up and taken away.

On the same vid, in my post just above, I've watched the astronaut getting up off the ground about half a dozen times starting at about 2:07, and while it looks like a wire may be lifting him what really is occurring is that he's lifting off with his left leg, shoves it up so quickly that it both gets him upright and unbalances him again just a little. He is also helping with his right foot, as well as pushing off the other guy with his left hand and arm. So that's a leg push and an arm push, augmented with a slight misjudging of how much pressure to push with so that he trips a little once he's up.

EDIT: Just watched the push up again, and as he gets up and uses the right shoulder of the other guy for support, the pressure of the lift pushes the other guy to his left a little, enough to tell that he has just had pressure applied to his right shoulder.

He shoots, he scores. Anyway, you are both bringing up some good points.

Originally posted by MrN9k
reply to post by DJW001

 

So... When a thin black line disappears its "camera bleeding" but, when you can see thin black wires holding them up it's an artefact? How about www.youtube.com... At 2:10. Does it look natural how the guy picks the other guy up? He appears to be magically lifted up in the air at one point.

edit on 20-2-2013 by MrN9k because: (no reason given)

That's what happens when you have already a preconceived idea , the Astronaut being helped up is using his left hand on the Astronaut standing's right arm/hand it's as clear a day, we it's is if you haven't already decided want you want to see!!!

reply to post by Aleister


What's the flag made of? Does anyone know? I understand that americans never landed on the Moon. I the supposition that the flag can't flap on the Moon because there is no atmosphere or because there is no gravity ?

Originally posted by CarbonBase
What's the flag made of? Does anyone know? I understand that americans never landed on the Moon. I the supposition that the flag can't flap on the Moon because there is no atmosphere or because there is no gravity ?

They were made of Nylon. They were bought from Montgomery Ward (same place my Milton Bradley Microvision came from ).

Flags can still flap on the Moon, but not because of the atmosphere. Inertia or vibrations from the ground can cause flapping too. There's gravity one the Moon, but it's only 1/6 that of the Earth's. It's speculated that the flags have been bleached white by the sunlight by this time.

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Its amazing how much you know about what I apparently already believe. In fact I am open to all possibilities, and find that asking questions is a good way to learn. I agree that people will see what they want to see. I do not claim to know what happened.

Originally posted by CarbonBase
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What's the flag made of? Does anyone know? I understand that americans never landed on the Moon. I the supposition that the flag can't flap on the Moon because there is no atmosphere or because there is no gravity ?

A flag can flap anywhere, gravity and an atmosphere are not required. All flapping is, is energy flowing through the non-rigid material that the flag is made from. If energy is applied, it will flap.

reply to post by MrN9k


If you're going to claim you can see thin black wires, you're going to need to provide proof. Maybe a picture or video link? And yes, film bleeding is an occurrence that has been known about since the invention of film (well, probably shortly thereafter) so it's a very logical explanation.

reply to post by captainpudding


There was a video post above called "Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage". At 1:10. More lens flare I guess?

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Considering it's directly in line with the glint off of the antenna, I would say it's highly likely. To imply there were wires would require someone to explain a conceivable overhead rigging device that would have no visible structure which is a bit on the impossible side of things. You'd also have to explain how they were able to attach these thin wires to each individual grain of lunar soil in order to simulate 1/6 gravity on the entire environment and not just the astronauts as can be seen in the hundreds of hours of video evidence.

reply to post by captainpudding


Could you link me to something which demonstrates what you are talking about please?

Quad bike racing on Earth:


Apollo rover "racing" on the Moon, in vacuum:

reply to post by MrN9k


See wildspace's video and pay close attention to the soil being kicked up by the rovers tires. First it doesn't billow in any way, just up and down in an arc so you know it's in vacuum because it would reach terminal velocity in earth atmosphere. Secondly you'll notice it is certainly not falling at 9.81m/s^2 So if they used some kind of wire work to simulate the 1/6 gravity for the astronauts, they'd have to do it for EVERYTHING the sand, the rover, anything dropped by the astronauts and so on and so forth.

The biggest problem with the claim of faked gravity is that people somehow think that gravity is three dimensional which it isn't. It's a vector force that points straight down so when you change gravity, you only change the results in a vertical plane. Horizontal movement stays the same. That's why when you speed up lunar footage so the vertical component appears to happen in earth's gravity, all horizontal movement (most noticeable in the arms) looks incredibly exaggerated and unnatural.

reply to post by captainpudding


If it was "faked" they must have built a very large chamber which was close to being a vacuum. I agree this would be difficult, although not as difficult as landing on the moon... Your point regarding dust, gravity, and horizontal movement is a new one on me. Yes, that is a very interesting point. I think it's fair to say that if the landings were faked then it would not have been possible to perfectly fake 1/6th gravity. I have never seen something which actually demonstrates what you are talking about. I assume this has been done as IMO it would be rather conclusive proof that we did go to the moon. The videos above perhaps demonstrate this, but I'm guessing that someone has made a video /document explaining this, breaking it down in more detail with slow motion / speeded up footage proving that it was 1/6th gravity?

If so, could I see it? Proof of 1/6th gravity would be hard to ignore for me.