Helicopter crashed into crane in London

Originally posted by winofiend
reply to post by Rodinus

 

In lieu of Phage being absent, I shall offer my expert opinion based on years of study in the field of headlineology.

Having reviewed the topic and information at hand, I can say with absolute certainty that the contraption that inflicted severe structural damage to this crane, which it must be noted, it really high usually, was in fact and in deed in all realities involved, a rotary bladed aerial machine. Commonly known as a Chopper.

I have a degree in headlineology, so I am certain you need not put any more effort into asking about this.

Winofiend BA Phd Ho.

Starred for making me laugh
OP:

Witnesses said the aircraft cartwheeled out of the sky after it smashed into a crane on St George Wharf Tower, in Vauxhall, amid heavy fog, then exploded into flames. Burning wreckage and aviation fuel covered the road and people have reported seeing cars on fire and hearing people scream. Pictures showed flames and a huge column of black smoke at the crash site just off Wandsworth Road near South Lambeth Road. Firefighters say the crane is now in a "precarious" position. It is not clear how many people are involved but sources say there was only one person aboard the aircraft, which is believed to be an Augusta 109. The London City Airport in Docklands had delays earlier in the day due to poor visibility. Witnesses said at least 22 fire engines were at the scene, as well as police and ambulances. Aviation expert Chris Yates told Sky News that any tall structure must have a warning light on top to alert pilots. The question is, he said, whether there was a warning light on the crane and whether the pilot would have been able to see it in the foggy conditions. The accident happened close to a railway line and train services were briefly suspended but are now running in and out of Waterloo station. Vauxhall station is closed.

EDIT : 2 People died(1 is the pilot) in the accident and 9 are injured and taken to a hospital.

hi im watching sky news at the moment the emergancy services are going to be doing a press conferance at 11:30 GMT

whilest watching it i was surprised to hear the reporter say due to the fog conditions the helicopter may of lowered it altitude to get land referances enabling the pilot to see where he was going. Am i wrong in saying pilots helicopter or aeroplane should be able to fly in low/no visability should they not be able to carry on flying using their instruments?

reply to post by Arken


What do you mean "official statement"? The BBC news has been speaking to officials since the time of the crash, and many of them have offered good information about the way this will be investigated. The next stage of the investigation will be handled by the Air Accident Investigation Branch. The AAIB will be responsible for sifting the wreckage of the chopper, and anything it may have impacted before hitting the ground, using thier extensive expirience to come to an understanding of precisely what caused the chopper to strike the crane, and plummet to earth.

The chopper was of a make and model which has a fantastic saftey record, according to one interveiwee on the BBC, but the AAIB will investigate every possibility as to the cause of this crash. They will probe into the service history of the individual aircraft, its owners, those who have worked on it, others who may have flown it. They will look into the history of the pilot, his medical condition and so on. They will also look into the weather around the crane, which was apparantly quite foggy. They will probe into every facet that might have had an effect on the eventual and unfortunate outcome.

Also, and finally... People died, and this is serious business. Lets not be bloody silly about it, and suggest that this is a UFO incident. There has been, on this site in recent times, far too little respect for the dead in the words of members, and that isnt right. It is not funny, and this aircraft was not crashed for our amusement. Have some decency please folks.

Originally posted by Dutcheagle

Originally posted by winofiend
reply to post by Rodinus

 

In lieu of Phage being absent, I shall offer my expert opinion based on years of study in the field of headlineology.

Having reviewed the topic and information at hand, I can say with absolute certainty that the contraption that inflicted severe structural damage to this crane, which it must be noted, it really high usually, was in fact and in deed in all realities involved, a rotary bladed aerial machine. Commonly known as a Chopper.

I have a degree in headlineology, so I am certain you need not put any more effort into asking about this.

Winofiend BA Phd Ho.

Starred for making me laugh

OP:

Witnesses said the aircraft cartwheeled out of the sky after it smashed into a crane on St George Wharf Tower, in Vauxhall, amid heavy fog, then exploded into flames. Burning wreckage and aviation fuel covered the road and people have reported seeing cars on fire and hearing people scream. Pictures showed flames and a huge column of black smoke at the crash site just off Wandsworth Road near South Lambeth Road. Firefighters say the crane is now in a "precarious" position. It is not clear how many people are involved but sources say there was only one person aboard the aircraft, which is believed to be an Augusta 109. The London City Airport in Docklands had delays earlier in the day due to poor visibility. Witnesses said at least 22 fire engines were at the scene, as well as police and ambulances. Aviation expert Chris Yates told Sky News that any tall structure must have a warning light on top to alert pilots. The question is, he said, whether there was a warning light on the crane and whether the pilot would have been able to see it in the foggy conditions. The accident happened close to a railway line and train services were briefly suspended but are now running in and out of Waterloo station. Vauxhall station is closed.

EDIT : 2 people died in the accident and 2 are injured and taken to a hospital.

edit on 16-1-2013 by Dutcheagle because: (no reason given)

Thanks for updating us

Sad news indeed for the people who died and the familes.

Many kindest respects

Rodinus

Ok

Watched news all morning, loads of anecdotal stuff, few pictures of debris, footage is very obscure between police officers

Convenient that just the pilot was on board

I'd like to see proper pictures of helicopter debris or there is something fishy going on

reply to post by stinka

Accidents happen , this was just a sad accident.
I guess that on the bright side we're lucky more people weren't killed .

God, is everything that happens some conspiracy? There was fog, the chopper pilot made a mistake and clipped the crane. Seeing as the accident happened very close to MI6 hq, I would have been amazed if they weren't on the scene very quickly indeed.

this thread is all kinds of wrong.
the OP is either 10yrs old or has a mental deficiency.

from the moment this event occurred, witnesses reported seeing a helicopter falling to the ground, along with parts of the crane it hit.

at no point was there any confusion and there was definitely no UFO involved.

This thread needs to be deleted and the OP warned/banned for posting it in the way he did. "No helicopters are missing" right..

reply to post by ceetee


Since when is it your job to be the hallway monitor of ATS if you think the topic is not living by the rules you can press the alert button.Also your insults doesnt add anything to this topic if you read carefully you would have know that he though it was a ufo because a friend reported to him that it wasnt a helicopter.I am not claiming that i believe it was a ufo, i just dont see why you got to be so pathetic.

"Helicopter crashes near MI6 Headquarters" would have been a much better and more provocative title for this thread. As it is, the OP is running the risk of it being moved to [HOAX].

Originally posted by FastJetPilot


Early eye witnesses are saying it could be a helicopter but the area is sealed off and the military are setting up cordons:

This is completely false, the fire brigade and the police along with paramedics attended there was no military involvement.

Also your thread is completely misleading as from when it very first happened everyone knew it was a helicopter so what is the purpose of this thread ?

weak....

Pointless thread, tbf. There was no military involvement at all, just a response by London Police, Fire and Ambulance.

However, if anyone is still in doubt, my cousin works close to the accident said a couple of hours ago on FB that he had a mooch past the scene out of curiosity and that the wreckage is visibly a helicopter, albeit badly damaged. Apparantly the air stank of burnt fuel too.

I assume the wreckage is still there, there's no secret to all this. Just a very tragic accident I'm afraid.

reply to post by DJW001


Someone at MI6 trying to call Saudi Arabia got connected to Kuwait.

Originally posted by Dutcheagle
reply to post by ceetee

 

Since when is it your job to be the hallway monitor of ATS

if you think the topic is not living by the rules you can press the alert button.Also your insults doesnt add anything to this topic if you read carefully you would have know that he though it was a ufo because a friend reported to him that it wasnt a helicopter.I am not claiming that i believe it was a ufo, i just dont see why you got to be so pathetic.

edit on 16-1-2013 by Dutcheagle because: (no reason given)

its my right as a user here to react to useless threads. ATS is now full of badly researched garbage. I react like this because I'm sick of trawling through pages of threads that are deliberately misleading. I also added corrections to the deliberate falsifications in the first post

Everything that happens IS INDEED a conspiracy, until proven otherwise.

Specially when it happens in Central London, next to the MI-6 headquarters.

It's a conspiracy, until proven otherwise.

reply to post by FastJetPilot


Getting fed up of misleading titles wether it be for real because of stupid research or for fun because of lack of imagination.

It's posts like this that piss me off. Funny or not, this is pure arsetalk.

Sort it out. FFS.

With all the room in the world up in the skies to navigate in, what are the odds of a small helicopter hitting a thin crane? Talk about odds!

reply to post by FastJetPilot
Ufo's do not crash people!!!!!reverse engineered ufo however crash every other day.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
With all the room in the world up in the skies to navigate in, what are the odds of a small helicopter hitting a thin crane?

The odds are not in the heli pilots favor when he's trying to "stretch it" by flying vfr in dense fog, and just duck under to have a look.

Originally posted by Reddeltic
God, is everything that happens some conspiracy? There was fog, the chopper pilot made a mistake and clipped the crane. Seeing as the accident happened very close to MI6 hq, I would have been amazed if they weren't on the scene very quickly indeed.

That's like going to the food network website and saying, God, does everything have to be about food?..you will find these types of threads on a conspiracy site my friend.