Kennedy family breaks silence after 50 years

jfk's death was faked.
The "JFK-MURDER" was a STAGED EVENT / JFK wasn't "KILLED" on 11/22/63!

the U.S. has always been pencilled in for destruction from within.

now the fuel is coming out to oxygenate the fires.

the kennedys are an elite family and are complicit in the greater game.

all roads lead to rome.

reply to post by OutonaLimb


I've been on lots of roads, and they haven't led to Rome. You'd have to cross an ocean to get there from lots of places. I guess some roads lead to Roma is a better way to say it. Deny ignorance.

Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by randomname
don't forget about jfk's son, his cousin.

died in a plane crash. he thought if he stayed out politics they would leave him alone.

Or maybe he was a brash young man with more money than sense who had little more than a year of experience and less than 100 hours of flight time on his own without an instructor, who bought his own fancy expensive hot-shot airplane that was beyond his abilities, and took off in the dark with a VFR license in near-IFR hazy weather he couldn't handle. He chose to fly over featureless water rather than take a slightly longer route with lights on the ground. He nearly hit a commercial flight enroute, which had to dive to avoid him. He had just fractured his ankle and had trouble with the foot pedals. His marriage was in trouble and his magazine, George, was about to fail, so there was, like, no stress or distractions in his life. He didn't file a flight plan, and his radios were on the wrong frequencies.

Other than that, he was a great pilot and it's obvious TPTB did him in.

"There are bold pilots and there are old pilots, but there are no old bold pilots."

Well thought post and very convincing. Anyway, we're talking about JFK's family. Knowing the legacy and the murdering by Lone Gun Men, anything is possible

Originally posted by Rising Against
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

Any talk about the Mafia, Russians or Cubans is just disinfo meant to distract.

How absolutely, incredibly frustrating to read. Seriously it is. And right there is a very good reason why we should not take your words seriously in this discussion here in this thread.

Fact is this - We're all here to learn and debate, not to close our minds. We learn by opening our minds, not closing them. To say that any talk of the above is disinformation is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. You're just dismissing it because it's something you don't want to hear, and then you go and insult everyone else discussing it. How is that progress, how is that making headway in finding truth? It's nothing but a step backwards in this topic and in logic. And if you disagree with what's being said, particularly my post on the mafia, well then debunk it with facts. In fact I challenge you to.

Again, we learn by expanding and opening our minds to other thing's, not rejecting it because we don't like it.

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I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours.

I've outlined the motive, why don't you attempt to debate those facts and cease your ad hominem attacks, I expected more from a moderator.

We all know the PTB exists as outlined from this ATS thread, Kennedy was an extreme threat to their power, the PTB had motive and opportunity, pretty much what all law enforcements agencies look at in any serious crime.

Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by OutonaLimb

 

I've been on lots of roads, and they haven't led to Rome. You'd have to cross an ocean to get there from lots of places. I guess some roads lead to Roma is a better way to say it. Deny ignorance.

alrighty then.

A thought. If the alleged RFK research into the phone records of Oswald and Ruby was on paper, maybe it still exists someplace. ATS members, if anyone has access to RFK Jr. please do a follow-up on this interview and on the phone record information. Thanks.

reply to post by starcraft

Arent they blaming the mafia?

They need to review the tapes:

Also, do you like Desert Strike?

and remember "the Girl on the Stairs" by - Barry Ernest:
On November 22, 1963, a young Victoria Elizabeth Adams stood behind a fourth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas. She watched as John Kennedy was murdered in the streets below. Then, with a co-worker in tow, she ran down the back stairs of the building in order to get outside and determine what had happened. At that precise moment, her life changed forever. Her actions posed serious problems for the Warren Commission, already grappling with its agenda of naming Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone assassin.

reply to post by Aleister

Do you think the article misquoted Jr., and that he meant the phone records of Ruby contained phone calls to most of the known mafia leaders, and not Oswald's?

That was my take on it. Sentence run on or some such.

That pic of the rifle intrigued me.


Never saw that one before. It looks to long to be mistaken for wrapped "curtain rods" as described. Does the Carcano break down for transport and still retain "zero" on the scope. I am surprised nobody else saw Oswald carrying that into the building.

The field of view on that scope reticle looks to be too narrow to easily acquire moving targets in rapid fire mode. Unless someone was practiced. Was Oswald a regular at his local range? Plinkers know who frequents those places.

The leather sling is set in order to provide a stable platform for firing from a sitting or kneeling position. A pro would know how to sling it like that.

What surprised me most about the picture is how the rifle is being held by the naked palm right where the suspects prints might be found (supposedly unknown at this time). That rifle is the most probable place that any connection to the suspect would be found.

reply to post by intrptr


It appears to me as if he is holding the weapon by its' strap. I'm certainly no weapons expert nor photographic interpreter however.

Your post is very informative.

reply to post by gladtobehere


Desert Strike? I'm sorry, that's lost on me, I don't know what you're referring to there.

reply to post by starcraft

It appears to me as if he is holding the weapon by its' strap. I'm certainly no weapons expert nor photographic interpreter however.

Why I believe you may be right. He is holding it by the strap. Thanks for setting me straight. And here I thought I was the only one with Mark 1 eyeballs...

But then who would give us our Obama Phones?

Ummmm.....Actually I will lay claim to them, as should every tax paying citizen of the USA.....Any money the government uses is OUR money we gave them!!

So I don't know anything about Obama phones, but heard of them......I actually work for a living.....About time they named something after me...

You have a Chrisfishenstein phone......You better remember who took care of you when times were tough!!

reply to post by schuyler


or maybe the same people that killed his father, infiltrated the hanger and or took a job as a mechanic and sabotaged his plane.

Originally posted by tehdouglas
reply to post by randomname

 

But then who would give us our Obama Phones?

But seriously, I heard a radio guest being interviewed and he mentioned there were more bullet holes in the RFK shooting scene than there were bullets in Sirhan Sirhan's gun. I cannot remember if the caliber was different though. To me that is a big smoking gun. That and the fact that Sirhan Sirhan cannot remember the shooting. I would love to see both of the Kennedy shootings finally solved instead of just covered over.

Originally posted by starcraft
reply to post by intrptr

 

It appears to me as if he is holding the weapon by its' strap. I'm certainly no weapons expert nor photographic interpreter however.

Your post is very informative.

Yes, you can see the shadow on the street where he is holding it by the strap.

Even if the Oswald reference was in a run-on sentence, and we don't know if it was, it creates a conspiracy question unlike any one in recent memory. RFK Jr. should either clear that up or affirm it's accuracy.

And, even if he only meant Jack Ruby - which isn't at all clear - he's saying that Jack Ruby, a lowly hood in Dallas, was talking to every major mob leader in the country. That by itself provides an entire highway of new evidence or theory.

Going to bump this again, with all the gun threads it's hard to get attention for a good gun murder thread, and this one deserves more than its gotten. I haven't seen this covered on any cable news shows, so I wonder if RFK Jr.'s statements are just floating there, major news but being ignored.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
There is at least one other Kennedy by blood serving in national elected office. Why not push blood to make a stink from the inside? Indeed.. Whatever we each think may have happened, it's like 9-11. The one thing I believe we can ALL agree on is that 'Investigation" is something the case never saw much of.....for Jack or Robert Kennedy. They both died under odd circumstances, IMO...given the half effort made at investigating anything.

JFK is one of those 'thread' points I think of as a spot where pulling the thread will unravel things far removed from the original event. It's quite a deal if someone can just get a hold of an end...just ONE good hold..and yank hard.

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I think they were afraid that JFKjr was thinking about doing that.

Originally posted by randomname
reply to post by schuyler

 

or maybe the same people that killed his father, infiltrated the hanger and or took a job as a mechanic and sabotaged his plane.

Pressure charge. Activates at high altitude then goes off on descent. Just a small charge will do, just enough to cause depressurisation.

reply to post by Aleister


I originally saw the story on several US networks on Sunday morning, and then again on Monday morning. It caught my interest so I googled it and found very little online coverage. I just assumed I could come to ATS, and get the full run-down. As my OP stated, I was surprised to find no thread on the matter.

To be fair, after posting my thread, it lead me to Rising Against's recent awesome thread on Project Amworld. I note that on January 12th, ATS member "mysticalsea" responded to Rising Against and mentioned RFK's recent statements.