CDC- The Secret Government

This may sound familiarly, partly because it is partly a theory that derived from The X-files. But the evidence is there. I was just looking around, wanting to know the year of creation of the CDC. What I found was the year 1947. The year me ring a bell, Roswell. Of all government agencies the CDC has the most uncontrollable power even at the hands of the President. If the CDC sees fit they can take away all civil liberties under the contitution with the over justification being of a possible outbreak. Effectively allowing the CDC to take full control of all levels of the government with no impunity.

reply to post by ziegenbagel


Wrong year.

The Communicable Diseases Center was founded July 1, 1946 as the successor to the World War II Malaria Control in War Areas program[4] of Office of National Defense Malaria Control Activities.[5] Preceding its founding, organizations with global influence in malaria control were the Malaria Commission of the League of Nations and the Rockefeller Foundation.[6] The Rockefeller Foundation greatly supported malaria control,[6] sought to have the governments take over some of its efforts, and collaborated with the agency.[7]

They actually didn't call it the CDC until 1970.

The Rockefeller connectiong is interesting, but no, the CDC would never be able to take control over anything. Whatever power they have woudl be usurped by Homeland Security, who are the real players.

~Tenth

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Doesn't matter if it was one year earlier we (the government) knew about life elsewhere prior to Roswell. Where did they learn it first? Nazi Scientists who were the first to reverse engineer a UFO following the crash do such a craft in the Black Forest in 1936. The CDC does have the power, power that even supersedes that of Homeland. If they "Suspect" someone of having contracted a contagion they can detain the person with no cause. Even disappearing such a person by burning their body as toxic disposal. They also hold the means to give someone such a contagion to disappear them. The CDC holds in their vaults the most deadly and world ending contagions known and unknown to man. Including the last of smallpox.

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Doesn't matter if it was one year earlier we (the government) knew about life elsewhere prior to Roswell. Where did they learn it first? Nazi Scientists who were the first to reverse engineer a UFO following the crash do such a craft in the Black Forest in 1936.

Are you claiming a theory as being a fact? Seems sorta like you are claiming that we have proof of UFO's and our governments involvement in recovering crashed Alien craft, along with the Nazi's.

Again, provide some actual proof.

The CDC does have the power, power that even supersedes that of Homeland.

Source?

If they "Suspect" someone of having contracted a contagion they can detain the person with no cause. Even disappearing such a person by burning their body as toxic disposal. They also hold the means to give someone such a contagion to disappear them. The CDC holds in their vaults the most deadly and world ending contagions known and unknown to man. Including the last of smallpox.

Your average police officer can detain you for 72 hrs withou charges or cause. How is that any different?

Look I see what you are getting at, but you aren't providing any facts for your declarative statements.

You have the right to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

~Tenth

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Because the facts aren't hard to find. Plus the CDCs power is just common knowledge. There's if different in the fact they need no over site to do such things as declaring Marshall Law. On UFOs the FBI released declassified files on the subject in 2011. Most people just don't care to look at them, but they are there right on the website for public viewing. Along with files and an official letter to President Eisenhower notifying him about the Majestic-12 organization and their roles.

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Because the facts aren't hard to find. Plus the CDCs power is just common knowledge. There's if different in the fact they need no over site to do such things as declaring Marshall Law

There are dozens of federal agencies that can declare marshall law over something. The CDC is only afforded such power because of the enormity of what they deal with.

On UFOs the FBI released declassified files on the subject in 2011. Most people just don't care to look at them, but they are there right on the website for public viewing.

And nowhere in these files did the FBI state they found aliens. Remember when the U stands for in UFO. There is absolutely 0 evidence of intelligent life from our goverment.

If there is, you're going to need to show me which of those FBI files clearly state they recovered ALIENS and ALIEN Tech.

Along with files and an official letter to President Eisenhower notifying him about the Majestic-12 organization and their roles.

Yes, of course there is. It was a commission created by the government to study UFO's, not aliens. Again, UFO, UNIDENTIFIED.

Not Alien Flying Object.

So again, please do not make declarative statements about things you've either misinterpreted, or just using generally because you don't have any actual deep knowledge of the content you are referencing.

The CDC has no more power than any other major federal agency, such as the Coast Guard or Homeland Security.

Aliens have NOT been confirmed by our government, nor any other government. UFO's have been discussed, but there's never been ANY official documentation regarding alien life.

I would actually LOVE for you to prove me wrong.

~Tenth

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Have a read-

vault.fbi.gov...

Page 4 starts a letter to President Elect Eisenhower notifying him about Majestic-12, siting of UFOs of Washington State by Air Force Piolets and the crash and recovery of a craft along with 4 small human-like bodies transported to Wright Field Ohio. Currently Wright-Patterson Airforce Base. I know this subject very wells I may not always give links the the evidence because I want people to do their own homework and deside for themselves. Even reading this you may still think I'm crazy or that its all bull#. I worked in Intellignce for the US, I know how closely this government tword to guard secrets. A major reason there isn't much hard evidence is because of this fact. The funny thing is, more people believe in extertresial Life and UFOs than those that believe 9/11 was created by the US Government to acquire oil interests when there is more proof that 9/11 is a conspiracy than there is proof of Aliens visiting us.

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You've proved my point with your own logic.

Why on earth, would the FBI release documents stating clearly that they captured 4 human like beings to the public? Even after 4o or 50 years?

They would not. So they didn't. And they won't.

It's amazing that people think the government is so bloody incompetent at everything, like education, finance, social services, infrastructure etc..

Yet they are the best in the world at keeping secret programs under wrap and not telling anybody. So good at it in fact, that 4o years later they release the actual 'truth" and people still don't believe it!

And BESIDES, ANY recovered UFO or alien would fall under military jurisdiction, not the FBI. There's no way they would actually be involved on any level other than perhaps deal with the public.

I've read those documents, still can't find the quote where they say they recovered 4 alien beings. There just isn't sufficent evidence, there really isnt'.

~Tenth

Well, there the note to Hoover from Guy Hottel,
And the hoover letter saying he Army recovered one and wouldnt let them have cursory inspection.....
Then there lies a great deal opf testimony and facts that did get out.......circa 50-70
Books by military officers like Keyhoe, and Ruppelt....
They tell an amazing story that wouldnt get out to the public today...but remains on the record.
CDC is one of the premier agencies under which emergency powers may be enacted.....i though that was common knowledge....
As far as the CDC being a behind the scenes player, well heres a reason that molecular biologists have been dying in strabge circumstances for the past few years....
Somebody has new toxinsor germs or nasty little viruses they wish to employ at a future date....(when the microbiologists are all dead maybe?
The CDC is a perfect agency o use for a coupe de etat and the injection of a bioweapon could do it.....

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I have been staring your post here but this statement is very misleading...

It's amazing that people think the government is so bloody incompetent at everything, like education, finance, social services, infrastructure etc..

Because people make claims that does not become a fact. A fact is that the government is still on power and in functions (most of the time, they drop the head of state when things do really get publicly messy). I'll grant you that governments are normally full of security holes but mostly about politically useful Intel mostly dealing on how bad it is or behaves, rarely stuff about national security and almost never in regards to technology or anything that can generate a monetary reward. The fact is that Kennedy, the space program has lots of inconsistencies and at least building 7 defies physics.

It is not also unreasonable to mistrusts governments, especially a criminal government like the one of the US, the only actual user of nuclear weapons that injected radioactives and done chemical and biological trials in its own population (some abroad also, even the depleted uranium seems to merit consideration). I do not see why anyone would listen to what comes out of that a factual criminal organization that disregards the international law it imposes on others (invasion of Panama) and creates Casus belli left and right to morally justify its predatory nature...

The fact that even after all that they do remain in power proves factually that they at least are efficient, and that must be only the tip of the iceberg, the things that they failed to keep secret.

Well, its good to see two people so far who at least do their research before trying to debunk what someone else says. The truth is around us, it just has to be seen by eyes that are open. Not those that are closed to the corrupt power of a government that hides behind religious morality. But if you even look at history, religion has the least morality of anyone. For hundreds of years scientists were persecuted and even killed by religion because their beliefs on science showed religion for the sham it is. I mean many religions even hate each other, most of which branch off from the same beliefs, weather its Christianity, Catholism, or even Muslims they all derived from the same roots. But in truth people are believing what's written in a book as actual facts. The truth is the story of the flood in the bible is actually from the ancient story of Gilgamesh. I don't see anyone believing that the events of the Twilight books actually happened, though there is a Jedi Religion that's actually recognized by the US Government as a religion now. It's just insanity. I mean some if not most of the worlds most evil people believed they were doing the work of their God. But I digress.

This thread is all over the place. Haha. It may prove to be a decent thread if it starts heading in a clear direction.

Also, this is ATS. The fbivault documents are by no means new news here. I am a firm believer in ET presence here on Earth, but no, it has NOT been admitted by the Gov. In fact I highly doubt they will ever say as much of their own accord

Nazi Germany is rumoured to have had run ins with ET

www.youtube.com...

Enjoy

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
"Nazi Germany is rumoured to have had run ins with ET"


I brought this up earlier about the 1936 crash of a UFO in the Black Forest of Germany. Where from accounts Nazi scientists were the first to reverse engineer such a craft. It's not new news that Hitler was ubsest with such things. Like the swastica which is most remember from its Nazi use but has been a symbol that's been found from civilizations thousands of years old. Additionally, following WWII it is suspected that the Nazi scientists involved were split up between the US and Soviets, thus leading the two powers into the space race of the Cold War.

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