Who comprises the globalists/ elites/ New World Order?

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
@ It is for those of [color=cyan] us who know they exist, and want to pin down exactly who they are.

OP can you list the ones [color=cyan] you know then we can pick which ones

of course other then those ALREADY listed from above poster(s) that you felt were not enough..

Frankly I don't know yet. I know that the Federal Reserve System and all those who directly control it are probably high up in this criminal enterprise. While I tend to blame the CIA for a lot of false flag operations, I know ultimately they're just being used like a tool by the true perpetrators (the elitists, as I'll call them).

I called out the Bush family above. Prescott Bush, George W's grandfather, was part of a plot to overthrow the government at the time, and assassinate FDR. I'm not sure how much actual power they have within the elitist group, though. They recruited Smedley Butler, the most decorated war hero at the time, to serve as their figurehead. He stayed around just long enough to find out who was behind the plot so he could expose them (can't give this guy enough props). The group he ultimately revealed to be behind it was The American Liberty League. I believe this is one of the elitist groups that still survives today.

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Originally posted by Grimpachi
I would assert that instead of following the money you should follow the power and the position couldn’t be held by a politician because they are only temporary then you need to find the motives.

Thanks for your response, Grimpachi. I wanted to address your key points. I suppose I just equate money to power, but that's oversimplifying. You have to take into account other types of influence, such as that of the church, the media, the government, etc. Case in point, the US government is low on money but high in power. Who are the people/organizations with perhaps not so much money, but lots of power, that we should consider?

Originally posted by Grimpachi
When thinking about the model of someone who could be an elitist I think there would be a very high possibility that one could be a drug czar probably one that has many legal enterprises as well where he could play both sides of the fence. Just a thought.

I think drugs are one of their many businesses. As I mentioned above, the CIA brings hundreds of billions of dollars worth of coc aine and heroin into the country to feed the fractional reserve banking system. Drug money literally helps fuel our economy.

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Originally posted by kiwasabi

Originally posted by BrokenCircles

Originally posted by kiwasabi

....exactly who comprises the elites who currently run the US, UK, etc.

Nonexistent.

"Stay on topic and do not try and derail", that was in my original post. This thread is not for debating whether or not they exist. It is for those of us who know they exist, and want to pin down exactly who they are. If you want to debate whether or not they exist, start your own thread. Do not try and derail mine. Thank you and have a great day.

First of all, I'd like to express my admiration for the irony of the fact that my one word post was actually much closer to the topic than your reply to me.





Now to slightly reiterate....

Originally posted by kiwasabi

....exactly who comprises the elites who currently run the US, UK, etc.

Even if there truly was some sort of a powerful hidden group of elites whose main goal is to obtain World Domination, then why the hell would they be divided up into different groups that have been designated control over specific countries? Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose?

Originally posted by BrokenCircles

 

Now to slightly reiterate....

Originally posted by kiwasabi
....exactly who comprises the elites who currently run the US, UK, etc.

Even if there truly was some sort of a powerful hidden group of elites whose main goal is to obtain World Domination, then why the hell would they be divided up into different groups that have been designated control over specific countries? Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose?

I never said they were divided in any way. I was merely stating that whoever controls the US probably controls a lot of Europe as well. Someone else suggested there might be a few competing groups who are trying to be the NWO, which I agreed made some sense. I don't believe whoever controls the Western world also controls China, for instance.

It's up to you if you don't want to believe any of it. But that's just burying your head in the sand in my opinion. Just look at 9/11. That was orchestrated to destroy all the evidence the FTC had gathered in cases against Wall Street regarding the dotcom bubble, to feed the Congressional Industrial Military Complex, to help out Big Oil, and in the case of Afghanistan, to restart the growing and exportation of heroin. Oh, and also to start turning America into a fascist nation, which is what Prescott Bush and Co. tried to do back in the early 30's.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Some good posts already. Bankers, Bildenberg, Rothschild, David Rockefeller. The House of Windsor, some of the head mafia.

But the servants are in every area, every town. They laid the designs for most cities. Its invasive.

M Kultra is everywhere as well. Along with their UN Gang for drugs, and child slave trade, and satanic ritual networks.

It would be hard to name names. But you can analyze, your area, and hold all in city hall, in elite positions suspect, and look for some of the symbols. For example, rings, vehicles, liscence plates.

They're still a hefty minority when people wake up enough to start doing real investigations.

Urrr....it is my everlasting AGGRAVATION that individuals on this board continually blast the Rothschild and Rockefeller families based on nothing but rumour and innuendo.

Neither of these families control the world, are involved in drugs or human trafficking and they most CERTAINLY are not involved in Satanic ANYTHING.

check it out - Bloomberg Billionaires Index
NOT A SINGLE DAMN ROTHSCHILD OR ROCKEFELLER ON THE LIST.

If you believe I am wrong and that these good people are involved in all matter of these horrors, please....BY ALL MEANS....post REAL EVIDENCE. Not links to someone else who is spouting nonsense of these rumors. I want to see honest-to-God, would-stand-up-in-court, HARD EVIDENCE.

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Real evidence is what I want to see as well. Apparently those involved in the 1930's planned coup d'état of the US Government had their names stricken from the record. That is how powerful these people are.

"The McCormack-Dickstein Committee "delet[ed] extensive excerpts relating to Wall Street financiers including Guaranty Trust director Grayson Murphy, J.P. Morgan, the Du Pont interests, Remington Arms, and others allegedly involved in the plot attempt. Even today, in 1975, a full transcript of the hearings cannot be traced."

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Who do you think is really the power behind the banks, government, media, etc?

No one knows, for sure, who they are. So, let's go with the old saying: 'he that has the gold, makes the rules'. All hands point to $$$. The one thing the majority of people serve and worship. "In god we trust"

Originally posted by kiwasabi
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Real evidence is what I want to see as well. Apparently those involved in the 1930's planned coup d'état of the US Government had their names stricken from the record. That is how powerful these people are.

"The McCormack-Dickstein Committee "delet[ed] extensive excerpts relating to Wall Street financiers including Guaranty Trust director Grayson Murphy, J.P. Morgan, the Du Pont interests, Remington Arms, and others allegedly involved in the plot attempt. Even today, in 1975, a full transcript of the hearings cannot be traced."

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Who do you think is really the power behind the banks, government, media, etc?

Riddle me this, batman....why would the banking industry want to overthrow the government when they had already secured the Federal Reserve? That isn't even logical....

No, I looked into your alleged plot/Committee above using your own source. What is actually says is:

What would be the objective of this super organization? According to the previously cited New York Times,3 General Butler is reported to have testified that the affair was an attempted coup d'etat to overthrow President Roosevelt and replace him with a fascist dictator. This interpretation is repeated by Archer, Seldes, and other writers. However, this was not the accusation made by General Butler to the committee.

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In other words, the Wall Street plot was not to dispose of President Roosevelt at all, but to kick him upstairs and install an Assistant President with absolute powers. Just why it was necessary to go to the trouble of installing an Assistant President is unclear because the Vice President was in office. In any event, it was planned to run the United States with a Secretary of General Affairs, and the gullible American public would accept this under the guise of necessary protection from a communist take-over.

At this point it is interesting to recall the role of many of these same financiers and financial firms in the Bolshevik Revolution—a role, incidentally, that could not have been known to General Butler5—and the use of similar Red scare tactics in the 1922 United Americans organization. Grayson M-P. Murphy was, in the early 1930s, a director of several companies controlled by the J.P. Morgan interests, including the Guaranty Trust Company, prominent in the Bolshevik Revolution, the New York Trust Company, and Bethlehem Steel, and was on the board of Inspiration Copper Company, National Aviation Corporation, Intercontinental Rubber Co., and U.S. & Foreign Securities. John W. Davis, the speech writer for General Butler, was a partner in Davis, Polk, Wardwell, Gardner & Reed of 15 Broad Street. Both Polk and Wardwell of this prestigious law firm, as well as Grayson Murphy, had roles in the Bolshevik Revolution. Further, Davis was also a co-director with Murphy in the Morgan-controlled Guaranty Trust Co. and a co director with Presidential hopeful Al Smith in the Metropolitan Life Insurance Co., as well as director of the Mutual Life Insurance Co., the U.S. Rubber Co., and American Telephone and Telegraph, the controlling unit of the Bell System.

Looks to me like it was all based upon political ideology more so than some "elite" trying to control the world.

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
Looks to me like it was all based upon political ideology more so than some "elite" trying to control the world.

Well clearly it was financed by the elite. So I don't really see where the distinction lies here. They do believe it's in the world's best interest to allow them to take over, at least according to Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope.

Originally posted by kiwasabi

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
Looks to me like it was all based upon political ideology more so than some "elite" trying to control the world.

Well clearly it was financed by the elite. So I don't really see where the distinction lies here. They do believe it's in the world's best interest to allow them to take over, at least according to Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope.

Take over....what, exactly? Unless you are stating there is some difference between "elite" and "wealthy" (most people on this board consider them one and the same), what do you think they could possibly want MORE than they have now? If it is luxuries, well...they have that now. So what does that leave? Power? A legacy?

Obviously, I have no idea what your background is....but let me give you a little insight on the wealthy. Most children (with some exceptions) who grow up in generational wealthy families are taught certain "facts of life." Those facts include the knowledge that you NEED workers to support your businesses successfully. You need HAPPY workers, ideally. History has shown that keeping people "subjugated and unhappy" only leads to revolt and an overthrow of government, wealthy, etc.... Look at the French Revolution. Look at the Bolshevik revolution. Look at Rome 100x over. These are just a couple of examples.

Second thing you learn that you will never please everybody and that there is ALWAYS someone who will strive to take away what you have. If you are not smart enough to learn, understand, and excel at the principles of wealth, then someone else will take it from you. One of those principles involves investment. It is only by planting a seed that you get something to grow. Thus, you get economy which supports EVERYONE somewhere along the line. Ironically, these same principles guide human behavior in chaotic, lawless places like the hood or regions under civil war, as well.

It is all about the power of persuasion. Those who can persuade others to follow generally stay on top. You will never sustain any kind of following with fear, intimidation, and brute control. Wealthy people know this in spades...

Not sure if this site has been posted under this topic yet but it is a very thorough account of the top illuminati families and the people of importance for these families.

www.occultphysics.com...

originally posted by: CIAGypsy


Urrr....it is my everlasting AGGRAVATION that individuals on this board continually blast the Rothschild and Rockefeller families based on nothing but rumour and innuendo.

Neither of these families control the world, are involved in drugs or human trafficking and they most CERTAINLY are not involved in Satanic ANYTHING.

check it out - Bloomberg Billionaires Index
NOT A SINGLE DAMN ROTHSCHILD OR ROCKEFELLER ON THE LIST.

If you believe I am wrong and that these good people are involved in all matter of these horrors, please....BY ALL MEANS....post REAL EVIDENCE. Not links to someone else who is spouting nonsense of these rumors. I want to see honest-to-God, would-stand-up-in-court, HARD EVIDENCE.

Lmao... you check a list of billionaires on Bloomberg and since the Rothchilds or the Rockefeller aren't on the list then it MUST mean all these conspiracy theories are BS. What's the definition of SECRETIVE? You won't find them on ANY financial list though the Rothchilds have reported their own wealth at 360 billion dollars. Where does that rank on Bloomberg list... and yes, that is fact. However, it is estimated that their wealth is closer to 500 Trillion and regardless, you can rest assured it is way more than they report. The Rothchilds are also the major players behind the banking industry. They own World Bank, 52% share holders in the Federal Reserve and are the central banking system for nearly every country in the world. But don't take my word for it... go research it yourself. What's even more astonishing than that is the Rothchilds are not the top illuminati family though a member of their family may sit on the council of 13. The fact that the Rockefeller, Vanderbilt and a couple of other families were the richest families in America during the industrial age yet they don't have a single person on the list is just another point in that it's a SECRETIVE organization... geez, baaaaa baaaaa -Zzzzzzz wake up sheeples!


PS. YOU may also want to research the activities these high level people participate in at the Bohemian Grove and the very strange parties that the Rothchilds have hosted... Now I cannot say these people are pedophiles, take part in demonic rituals but they damn sure are do NOT fall under the category "Good People".