Mars Colonists sought

Mars Colonists sought

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A Dutch Company is looking for colonists for an expedition to Mars in 2023

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I cant think of a better place for this information to be posted than here on ATS. This could be a great opportunity for some of you twenty somethings to look into.

I think Im way too old for this, but its a neat dream for those who might be interested in such a thing for the future

Its something right out of Star Trek

Good Luck

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Originally posted by GeneralMishka


I cant think of a better place for this information to be posted than here on ATS. This could be a great opportunity for some of you twenty somethings to look into.

I think Im way too old for this, but its a neat dream for those who might be interested in such a thing for the future

Its something right out of Star Trek

Good Luck

todaynewsgazette.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Exactly what GeneralMishka said.
I'm in my forties now and too old for such an exciting adventure, how I envy the young for all the opportunities that are opening up for them regarding space travel.

On a related note, a deodorant company are currently running a competition and the prize(s) is a trip into space.
If I was in my teens/twenties I would be all over that!
When I was a child in the 70's reading 200AD and digesting greedily anything NASA put out I dreamed of visiting the stars but it was always a remote and unattainable dream, now its a possibility and more attainable than ever.

I won't name the company running the comp as it may violate T&C's but a google search with 'Apollo' and the name of a large wild cat will get you there.
The stuff of dreams. I would give ten years of my life to go up to the edge of space in a U2 plane, let alone into orbit. I know 40's isn't really that old but for space travel its positively ancient.

Now where did I put my ear trumpet?
Glen Miller is on the wireless......

It's very exciting. We've been discussing it in this thread for a few days.

Here is where I am confused. The trip is in 10 years and the participants need 8 years of training they would have to begin training in a max of 2 years. Then you add approximately 7 months travel time(unless of course we pick up the speed a little). If the candidates are 18 at the time of beginning training they will be 26 by the time they are to leave and possibly 27 or close to when they arrive. Would this be an optimum age for beginning a colony? So what if the candidate is 10 at the time of beginning training. At the time of leaving they would be 18 and 19 or close to when arriving. Would this not be a better age to begin a colony? Of course the leaders would be more trained and older but for the actual colonists and builders I would think the younger age would give for more time in developing the colony not to mention the safer age of reproduction as the older one is in giving birth the better chances of deformities or such which would put further stress on a developing colony. Just my thoughts.

I think this is a great possibility and I am excited to see how it unfolds.

reply to post by Agarta


That would be against basic human rights in my opinion. You have a point about the age, but you'd have to be pretty uncaring to take a few ten year olds out of school, then spend the rest of their time on Earth training them, and then shoot them into space for the rest of their lives. It's a one way trip. They won't be coming back.

It hasn't opened yet according to their website, but it says the start of 2013 so should be soon, this is something I and I'd imagine most people in the 20's would apply for!

Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by Agarta

 

That would be against basic human rights in my opinion. You have a point about the age, but you'd have to be pretty uncaring to take a few ten year olds out of school, then spend the rest of their time on Earth training them, and then shoot them into space for the rest of their lives. It's a one way trip. They won't be coming back.

I see where you are coming from but think of it this way. A dream of a lot of 10 year olds is to go into space. Think of their excitement to find out they are getting to go, so is it really a bad thing in their minds? As for pulling them out of school I bet they would end up getting a much better education going into the program not to mention a massive head start on their purpose and job description. I don't think this would be a one way trip. At the moment it is set to send them out to form the colony but later there will be a need to ship resources back to Earth(Capitalism will see to that, and therefore they would, Eventually, be able to come and go as they desire within the guidelines set forth at that time. Trade will enable the round trip in the future me thinks.

nvm, i got missinformed

reply to post by pheniks


Currently about 7 months mars-one.com...

I won't be thinking twice about this. Give me the chance and am gone! If I can donate my life to potentially being the first group of people to colonize another planet (even if it doesn't work) then I think that is a life well spent!

Originally posted by pheniks
nvm, i got missinformed

edit on 11-1-2013 by pheniks because: (no reason given)

It does not take 10 years to get to mars

It would take 7 - 10 months tops, depending on technology and besides who knows what tech would be about in 4 years let alone when they want to leave

reply to post by Agarta


Yes, most ten year olds would be excited about it. Most ten year olds would also willingly take a magic pill that turned them into the Hulk for the rest of their lives. I just wouldn't feel right about it. And right now it is considered a one way trip.

Also, the website stresses that emotional and mental stability is the biggest factor to ensure a safe mission. Young minds are still developing into the early 20s so it wouldn't be a safe bet to select a ten year old now for a mission scheduled in ten years.

The website also states that the training will be very hard. They'll be putting candidates tough situations, such as 2 months in the dessert to see how they deal with solitude. I wouldn't want a kid going through that.

reply to post by Ireminisce


I respect your opinion on the child issue and you/they are right in the mental stability thing. That would be one of, if not the most important issue with the trip. However, to select bright intelligent children and slimming the selection down ensures this to be a success as well as the ability to train them to do things the way of the mission rather than attempting to reprogram previous training or beliefs in how the individual thinks it should be done. This will impact the mission quite a bit as well. As for putting the children in the position of a desert situation there are a few things that come to mind. One, whether we like it or not there are Children that suffer much more difficult situations here on Earth and survive throughout the history of Mankind. Yes there is a loss of life in these situations, but in this case, I seriously doubt the trainers would let it get to the point of loss of life save for accidents which is suffered by any age. Two, we do not have a training schedule and it would be assumed that there would be training prior to being put out in the desert as this would be a test of knowledge and physical ability to survive and therefore it could realistically mean they would be 16 or 17 when this test would be administered.

Edit to add: Even if they were 14 + this is the age participants of "Outward Bound" begins at. So we already send our children out to survive the wilderness.

reply to post by Agarta


Thank you. I understand and respect all of your points as well. I guess what it boils down to for me is that I don't think 10 yrs old is old enough to consent to something like this. Yes they could change their mind at 18, but by that time they would have already dedicated all those years to nothing but training for the mission.

I'll sign up. Anything to get the hell out of this insane planet.

I'm in my 40s and I'd go...I'd take that hulk pill too.
Probably wouldn't be allowed to do either though.

reply to post by Agarta


There's a lot of stuff they're probably not telling you before you go. Or if you go you are not
aloud to release anything that they tell you in increments to persuade you to continue with
the mission or otherwise they would probably legally bind you to a contract
and you would be subject to severe punishment by government authorities.

For example, there's a society on the far end of the planet, or that you can live for another 100 years due to the gravity's effect on decomposition of your skin and internal organs.

So they have ten years to develop, build and test a spaceship also?
Do the Dutch have access to spaceships? and if this is part of the European space program then I really doubt the credability of this story..

Although its not odd to see a story/job add like this -

www.usedregina.com/classified-ad/Time-Travel-Research-Assistant_14174595

But back on topic, seems it'll be a one way journey. In more ways than one...


eee.

Sorry, couldn't resist.