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Originally posted by bet555
If we as humans would just accept the fact that Handicapped people are Handicapped and quit spending billions of dollars each year to help them.
i agree that the world's population is way out of control...
the way to slow and then reverse the population is to make it pointless to have more than 2 children (this idea would only work in the west)
child benefits would should only be paid to first 2 children, the second child only gets half the finacial support that the first child gets.
This a bloodless and humain way to reduce the western population
the middle east is more difficult as child support doesn't exist,
population movement should also be limited as this would stop countries such as Britain becoming over populated on such a small island
if this post is offensive to anyone i'm sorry, i'm trying to be practical
'you sometimes have to be cruel to be kind'
[edit on 26-6-2004 by UK Wizard]
Originally posted by Simulacra
Originally posted by bet555
If we as humans would just accept the fact that Handicapped people are Handicapped and quit spending billions of dollars each year to help them.
Man that is great! I couldnt have said it better myself. It does sound somewhat evil, but it is right, totally right. On a primitive level, has there been any reports of animals giving other 'handicapped' animals special assistance just based on their disability? I've never seen another bonobo monkey help his paralyzed friend walk around.
But then again, doesnt that seperate us from primitive animals? The ability and the choice to help people? Guess that makes us human?
Originally posted by radagast
as far as the handicapped comment goes, the same could be said for people using prescription drugs, we should just let them die right ?
maybe we should thin the heard by starting with folks like YOU
Originally posted by Channy
Its an obvious fact our population is growing too fast.
I believe Darwinism is a stage and that once we reach our limit, it will be survival of the fittest and strongest.
My theory is that we will eventually have a war.
So what do you think? Am I insane? Am I right? Am I wrong? lol
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by Channy
Its an obvious fact our population is growing too fast.
Not according to some of the sources that have shown birth rates declining (particularly in European countries and in America) over the past few years.
I believe Darwinism is a stage and that once we reach our limit, it will be survival of the fittest and strongest.
My theory is that we will eventually have a war.
You don't think we can do any better than that??? Frankly, I can!
We can encourage equality between the sexes. With women getting better educations and decent jobs, they delay having babies and the population goes down. We can encourage men to learn about birth control. More condoms means fewer babies and less sexually transmitted disease (and better health). More vasectomies means fewer babies.
Better technology means better distribution of wealth (there's fewer extremes between the rich and the poor here in the US than there is in India or some of the third world countries.) Better technology means less pollution.
Better education means better answers to some of the problems (better ways to grow foods, including "organic" foods.) With better nutrition, better jobs, and a better future, people don't tend to have as many children as they possibly can. With better educated parents (fathers AND mothers) the kids get better care (less spousal and child battering among the better educated. Check the stats
So what do you think? Am I insane? Am I right? Am I wrong? lol
I think you're thinking inside the box.
Start thinking OUTSIDE the box, instead. War is only the answer if we tell ourselves that's the only possible answer.
Originally posted by radagast
I suggested we start with you because of your callous and awful comment about handicapped people.
If we're going to make judgements about who should go, I vote for you.
WHY
I'd rather try to survive a war or "depopulation event" with a compassionate, intelligent person in a wheel chair than a healthy SOB like you. Just my opinion, no facts to back it up
BTW, Evolution effects an entire species, not just individuals. Evolution takes place over many many generations through genetics. If a handicapped person can "reproduce" (sorry) their genes carry on.
Killing handicapped people won't effect evolution,
but it would effect the population/resources ratio.
My Cousin is blind he has been sent to Lions School in ARkansas for FREE he can go to any college in Texas for FREE !! He can get anything he wants pretty much for free. And if he can't all he has to do is right his governor and it will be taken care of. ALL BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD. When are we goign to realize that looks aren't everything and I mean that as in LOOKS--meaning--- The things that we do to try and help people out like open doors for elderly, Let them open thier own doors why you think they get weak in thier old age .... if I walked around all the time with people doing everything for me I wouldn't be in very good shape myself
If I ever became incapacitated in any way ... I would not allow anyone to take care of me ... I don't want to be a bother to anyone. Not even my mom and dad that had me .... they don't need me sitting around not being able to feed myself. Or not beeing able to see.