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The Aether Reality

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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:01 AM
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Also it is theorized that Quantum Entanglement may not just be specific to one Univeral State. It is very possible as well as this idea fits in with the reality of Quantum Mechanics that Quantum Particle/Wave Forms not only are connected with other like Quanta existing at different positions within our Universe but also some of these Quanta such as Quarks being able to transfer existence between an existing Quanta within a Proton or Neutron in another Divergent Universal State.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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I get what you are saying about the flashlight, but it was just used as a means of explaining the experiment.

An illustration of the concept.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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I understand this but what I am trying to say is that my explaination goes far beyond just a seeming technicality but is in reality a condition that will always come to pass and always have the same reaction of Quanta when the Flashlight extension is on as well as off.

Whenever the extension is off...Light will be emmitted to all possible angles and vectors away from the clear circular plane that covers the flashlights bulb and reflective cone. In a vacumm away from any Gravity Wells...and away from any Stellar Illumination that could reflect off the flashlight...light will always be seen at any position that is within 180 degrees of direction from the clear plane.

If one were to be 180.0001 degrees from this plane one could not see any generated light.

Now once the plastic extension is screwed on to the Flashlight the emmitted light is reflected into a tighter beam. Thus even though the extension directs light into a tighter beam...it is STILL possible to be in a position anywhere within 180 degrees of a imaginary line drawn perpendicular acroos the diameter at the end of the flashlights extension. Even though the light is not disbursed so evenly as it is without the extension...light can still be seen as light is reflected off the inner sides of the extension and thus light can be seen by one who is positioned within 180 degreed from the line drawn perpendicular to represent a imaginary plane.

This is an example specific to conditions of the question of what happens when a flashlight is moved fast enough to intersect a light wave length. In both cases since reguardless of a flashlights extension being placed farther out and away from the flashlights emmision zone...lightwaves will still travel out and at vectors of 180 degrees of the plane of both the glass lense cover as well as the imaginary plane of the circular extension.

Even if the flashlight is moved fast enough to have the extensions lip intersect a light wavelength...light will reflect off the moving extension as it is repelled by the Electron Fields orbitting the Atomic Nucleus' of the Atoms that make up this extension.

As the partial light wavelength is reflected...the initial photons achieve a different wavelenght as well as the intersected photons that are reflected by the extension sides. Still in both cases the photons will ALWAYS be emmitted and detectable at 180 degrees from the extension plane.

The act of intersecting the wavelength which is being done by matter and thus reflected by the matters electron orbital fields...can only change wavelength of light but NEVER change the reality that the emmited light of such a construct will always be detected at 180 degrees from plane. Thus at whatever position perpendicular to the plane of either the glass or the line of diameter of the extension...as well as the position of light detection being within 90 degrees of a line coming away perpendicular from the plane of either example...will be able to detect light that is of not only the beginning of the cut wave but also the end of the cut wave.

This shows that as long as there is matter surrounding the emmision of light such as in the case of a flashlight extension...that matters electron fields will reflect the lightwaves being intersected by close to light speed movement of the flashlight and reguardless of lightwave intersection as long as one was to be in any position that would be within 180 degrees of the half circle of direction of movement in any line in any direction of swing such as a flashlight being at South on a compass pointing towards North...then the flashlight is swung to East and then back past pointing North and then to pointing West...and if a person was positioned looking at South while standing on North as this was done....they would be able to see light from that flashlight as long as it was pointing within the angle of 180 Degrees that exists from East past North to West.

The moment the flashlight with the extension is aimed exactly at East or West...one could no longer see Light. But if a person was to move any number of degrees in any direction away from North...the distance they could see light would decrease the same number of degrees in the oposite direction and increase in the same direction.

Split Infinity...p.s...Phew! LOL!



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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Maybe with a flashlight. But my theory is based on emitting a single photon wave packet, which has already been done and is related to quantum computing. This is to be emitted by a spinning fluorescent molecule - no lip and no glass.

I get what your saying about the split into different wavelengths with movement but not possible with one photon wave packet, which is already quanta.

A Quantum Dot Single-Photon Turnstile Device www.sciencemag.org...

Deterministic Generation of Single Photons from One Atom Trapped in a Cavity www.sciencemag.org...

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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 06:06 AM
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It is one thing to do something in the lab, but another to verify that in the real world.

Speed, velocity, and acceleration are all inter-related. If the velocity is constant, then the acceleration would have to be zero. Light moves at a frequency, the wave. Could the wave itself be a result of variation in acceleration

I have more on this, but have been busy.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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If the scientific/quantum mechanics world wants to convince everyone that the speed of light through a vacuum is a constant, they should be collecting reams of data along these lines.




The first real measurement of the speed of light came about half a century later, in 1676, by a Danish astronomer, Ole Römer, working at the Paris Observatory.  He had made a systematic study of Io, one of the moons of Jupiter, which was eclipsed by Jupiter at regular intervals, as Io went around Jupiter in a circular orbit at a steady rate.  Actually, Römer found, for several months the eclipses lagged more and more behind the expected time, but then they began to pick up again.  In September 1676,he correctly predicted that an eclipse on November 9 would be 10 minutes behind schedule.  This was indeed the case, to the surprise of his skeptical colleagues at the Royal Observatory in Paris.  Two weeks later, he told them what was happening: as the Earth and Jupiter moved in their orbits, the distance between them varied.  The light from Io (actually reflected sunlight, of course) took time to reach the earth, and took the longest time when the earth was furthest away.  When the Earth was furthest from Jupiter, there was an extra distance for light to travel equal to the diameter of the Earth’s orbit compared with the point of closest approach.  The observed eclipses were furthest behind the predicted times when the earth was furthest from Jupiter. 


Such data would prove or disprove that the velocity of light is a constant.

That light moves at a frequency, flipping from positive to negative at frequencies in the gigahertz, which literal jumps back and forth in a coaxial cable, suggests that the acceleration does in fact change. This indicates a strong possibility that light travels through packets, which indicates a media. What are the odds that the nature of this media changes with environment, which would include changes in environment in space, which would indicate the the velocity of light does vary in a vacuum.


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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:06 PM
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The Quanta or Quantum Particles that exist in a Photon Wave Packet are VIRTUAL.

This means that such Particles existing as wave are never specific to any one position or one function or one reality. Such particles even when are shown in position as to location upon a Detector have been shown to also exist at either another position as they not only are detected but have been shown to simultaniously have Function.

The Double Slit Experiment is a testament to this fact.

Still...even if there is no lip...Light will be detectable at every vector withing 180 degrees from emmision. The Wave Packet will simply be reflected by any matter either focusing or generating such light in this manner and be emmitted always within 180 degrees of the plave of the matter emmitting it.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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It is one thing to do something in the lab, but another to verify that in the real world.

Speed, velocity, and acceleration are all inter-related. If the velocity is constant, then the acceleration would have to be zero. Light moves at a frequency, the wave. Could the wave itself be a result of variation in acceleration

I have more on this, but have been busy.



As I have stated...The Quanta that exist as particles and behave as a wave within the Light Wave...these Quanta are VIRTUAL. They never exist individually at any given position and even when electronically detected...can be shown to have a dual function.

Lights Speed is calculating Photon's rate of travel in a minumum 4-D. But since our Universe and it's Space/Time, Matter and Energy exists in a minimum of 10 or 11 Dimensional States...this allows for Light to obtain the speed of approx. 186,300 Miles per Second instantaniously without the action of acceleration.

This is so because unlike Matter...that due to the Higgs-Boson Quanta...which is responsible for giving Protons and Neutrons Mass and thus the ability to generate Gravity which is the warping of Space/Time as well as an example of the Expression of One Dimensionality....unlike Matter....Light or Photons acting as both Particle and Wave are neither bound to any real mass as any calculated Mass of a Photon is only specific to Gravitational Effect upon it from other Mass and NOT specific to any Higgs-Boson....thus Light or Photons once emmitted from MATTER that is under effect of any Force or Energy or Gravitic Compression....such Light obtains instant Velocity of approx. 186,300 mps without encountering any inertia or kinetic energy buildup.

This rate of Light Speed which is the Absolute in Normal Space/Time is a reality only because a Photon is a Quantum Particle/Wave Form and thus is not confined to any one specific Existance or Reality or Function.

If it were...it would not be able to travel at this rate.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:59 PM
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It is not the Velocity of Light that changes but in fact it is Space/Time itself that has changed as in these instances it is obvious that Gravitational Effect generated by Celestial Bodies....in which this Gravitational Effect is Warping Space/Time to an extent and thus CHANGING the very Dimensionality of Space/Time.

Since we calculate Velocity as the Distance Traveled based upon a specific measurement of Time....if either Distance or Time was to be altered...so would the calculated Velocity.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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All that is needed is some proof that these claims are true.

Personally, I don't think light has a particle component, and there is no proof that a Particle component exists. All evidence is that the wave component exists, it produces energy, therefore it must have mass.

Entanglement t does give evidence that the acceleration of light could be instantaneous, but if the velocity is constant, then the acceleration drops to zero, or acceleration changes rapidly enough, and in such a manner as to make the velocity constant, but there is scant proof that the velocity of light in a vacuum is constant. There is not nearly enough evidence to make this claim.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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It looks like to me space/time is just a new way of saying aether.

There is a much more plausible explanation readily available, and that is plasma. Heat, magnetics, electricity, light, all forms of the plasma state, and most likely the fabric of higher dimensions as well.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 09:55 PM
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There have been many types of experiments that show Photons to be both Particle and Wave as a there are several methods of using a Photon Detection Plate where light is beamed to it and the plate gives a type of ALMOST photographic negative of where the individual Photons came in contact with the Electron Fields of the plates matter.

The plate is also an enery collector using a magnetic field and the experiment shows not only does an individual Photon REFLECT off the plate but for some reason of Quantum Mechanics also performs a Function as the Photon changes frequency to be converted to an Electron which then grounds to an electric motor of sorts which allows calculation of charge. Thus this Quanta is doing two seperate functions.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 09:57 PM
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Who knows?

Tomato...Tamato! LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:42 PM
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This makes sense, there would be particles that travel with the light wave, like embers shooting out of a flame, but the particles would only be traveling with the light wave that sweeps over everything.

That how I see it.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:44 PM
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Yeah, exactly!

What's you're concept? Come on, it can't be crazier than my curly hair concept of the electron.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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Obviously if anyone could understand why Photons act as both particle and wave we would be close to solving the Unified Field Theory as such understanding would be monumental.

I tend to think that finding out the way a Quanta can have more than one function is key to understanding this.

Heavy Math! LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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I lost track here...my concept on what?

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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Yeah, exactly!

What's you're concept? Come on, it can't be crazier than my curly hair concept of the electron.



Lol sir comedy. nice going. Ypu just about managed to
wind every1 up on this thread.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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I tend to think that finding out the way a Quanta can have more than one function is key to understanding this.


IMO structure. Mechanism.

If math is going to move forward, there need to be a great deal of evolution of the equal sign, being that no two things are equal. Not to mention a re-examInation of zero.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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It may be that what is equal in one Dimensional State is not so in another thus the ability of Quanta to have more than one function.

I believe that certain Quanta have the ability to not only exist within more than one Universal Reality but that this is an absolute must for Quantum Mechanics.

Split Infinity




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