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Originally posted by GaucheDroite
Originally posted by CosmicBob
Originally posted by Baguul
Say whatever you want about AJ, this type of rhetoric is insidious and heinous, not to mention illegal and hypocritical. I
"insidious and heinous" - Why? Because AJ's own organisation (predictably) saw an opportunity and sold it to their audiences as such? No one actually shot AJ or any of his family did they? This is a victimless "crime" made by a person exercising their right to freedom of speech.
"illegal" - Please can you point me to the law stating this as illegal. In fact, I recall a law supporting it. It's called the 1st Amendment. If the individual you're accusing had said it as a call to action (as opposed to satire and irony) to the viewers of the show, then I think there would be good reason get upset about it because then it could be directly attributed as malicious and with ill-intent.
"hypocritical" - Why is it hypocritical?
edit on 9-1-2013 by CosmicBob because: Fixed some wording
So if someone says something about the US president along the same lines, do they get looked into by the Secret Service? I think so.
Unfortunately saying "it was a joke" afterwards is too late as the offender already said it. At minimum Piers and the other commentators should be looked at officially, sure nothing will come out of it since the elites got the police under wraps. Its the principle of it though.
Also it is criminal to threaten someone regardless of the 1st Amendment.
www.shouselaw.com...
California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats). A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family, the threat is specific and unequivocal and you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.edit on 1/9/2013 by GaucheDroite because: (no reason given)
Yes this is California, but I am sure it applies to many states.edit on 1/9/2013 by GaucheDroite because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by Nina2010
I am sure if the the shoe was in another foot you would use it to condemn guns even further. You are a bad troll.
Maybe............. but only because Im now questioning AJs mental state.
I just rewatched the vid and it is absolutely appalling!!!!!!
The guy has most likely lost his marbles, I mean the end bit where he puts on the accent!!!! WTF was that about
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by TheMindWar
Can you link a source showing he knew they were fake?
Ive read nothing about that and would be very interested
I agree the joke was in bad taste and he should have realised that this would ensue, but it was a joke never the less and no one, not even the people using sensational headlines, actually thinks it was serious and that AJs life was in dangeredit on 9/1/2013 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)
Well, whether you want to believe it or not what people in the media say or agree with DOES matter. We used to hold journalism to a certain degree of professionalism where even the lowest of the low tabloid journalists were held to a certain degree of accountability. If some nutjob goes out and acts on what Piers and Co. were joking about do you honestly think he should have no accountability for the things he said?
Originally posted by WhereIsTheBatman
This is a nice video as well. Piers is owned:
Originally posted by TheMindWar
I should add this from Jeremy Paxman
Morgan Taught Me How to Hack Phomes
Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
Originally posted by TheMindWar
I should add this from Jeremy Paxman
Morgan Taught Me How to Hack Phomes
What`s a "phome"?????
Originally posted by GaucheDroite
@CosmicBob, no quarrel with you, just hashing out my POV vs yours. I don't like the double standard being presented. First off the 2nd amendment is not debatable, AJ is on the right side in this argument with Piers. But joke or not its a threat, again if AJ had said the same thing it would be front page news and spammed on CNN 24hrs a day, would it not?
Again all I see is you cherry picking, what about the commentators mentioning his children? You can keep side stepping if you want. You can keep saying it was satire/joke/not serious, etc, but it doesn't change the fact that a threat was made to someone and his family.
Originally posted by GaucheDroite
Of course nothing is set in stone except for stone . What about the populaces who've had their arms taken and then subsequently being under tyranny? This is why the 2nd amendment cannot be taken away or altered in some fashion by this/other administration, as we as a people are quite not ready for the next step in civilization unfortunately.
I would tell him the same in the same manner. While I do somewhat agree that the GOVT has other things that are more pressing, you cannot deny that they are definitely on a tangent of labeling/defining who the enemy is in the "battlefied/homeland/US" or w/e its called now. Are they not also arming themselves too? Now that could be due to the fact that the populace is armed, but wouldn't that be contradicting to what they are saying to the pro-gunners?
Pro-gunners want more guns but that's wrong? But its okay if the GOVT does so? Well that's how I see it going, just my opinion.