Infographi​c: PhDs on Food Stamps / Janitors with Doctorates The State Of Jobs

How is that even possible?

It's amazing that not only do we have an issue where people are uneducated and can't get good jobs, we also have little to no 'good' jobs to offer folk.

How is this problem solved? Why has American allowed itself to be a nation of buyers instead of makers?

This is VERY telling of the kind of society you will have in 10 or 20 years time if this issue isn't fixed, and fixed quickly.

Thoughts ATS?

~Tenth

My thoughts?

Vote Republican.

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reply to post by tothetenthpower


Well, people will be in here soon to tell it's the type of degree they get, but even that isn't true. I know a lot of Engineers who are getting shafted for Indian workers on h1b visas these days. No one is safe except those who go into the medical field and even that is going to be overstocked soon.

reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies


Yeah, cause Republicans aren't the ones who dismantled the entire manufacturing arm of the US right? Or haven 't been in power since the 1960's when all this started?



This isn't a left vs right issue. Both sides have contributed to the decline of your economy and therefore jobs. Americans ignored their education system while sending jobs to China and India.

3o years later and you'd like to blame a political party?

That's about 99% of the problem.

~Tenth

reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies


Why? So the Phd's job can get outsourced?

You need to wake up to reality....

I know a few teachers with Master Degrees hustling to get any job they can. One just took a job at Hobby Lobby. Seems the trend is part time jobs to avoid paying benefits.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

 

Yeah, cause Republicans aren't the ones who dismantled the entire manufacturing arm of the US right? Or haven 't been in power since the 1960's when all this started?

This isn't a left vs right issue. Both sides have contributed to the decline of your economy and therefore jobs. Americans ignored their education system while sending jobs to China and India.

3o years later and you'd like to blame a political party?

That's about 99% of the problem.

~Tenth

Well said!

How is it possible?

College degrees are overrated.

I was first taught this in my Econ 101 class my freshman year.

The medical field is overrun in my area, all it took was the US govt. shutting down a major state hospital. Suddenly even nurses here can't find work. I know one really great RN that was a nurse manager for years that is unemployed, doing temp data entry work when she can get it. Luckily she had a bit of inheritance or she said she'd be under the bridge.

My husband is highly skilled but he's had to take a job that's mainly just felons and druggies working there. It's mainly just heavy lifting he does now.... He says about 2/3 of the folks have neck tattoos. It's not that he thinks he is too good to do anything, but it's such a waste, and he has nothing in common with these folks. He mentioned he liked college football and they all thought he was crazy because the pros are all there is to them. I mean, it's a little thing, but it's a lot of like, almost..cultural differences...it's been a hard adjustment for him. He's used to having a bit of respect...this job though, there's none for anyone. Pays crap too - we make just enough to NOT be eligible for food stamps. SHould be glad I guess but we'd be better off if we got govt benefits making 1,000 dollars less. As it is, we have no insurance at all, no help with anything....

We're tough though. He's been told if the market picks up just a bit, he's going back to his old job, maybe by spring. If I can just keep him positive until then...he's miserable.

It SUCKS to have an education and skills and not be able to use them. People always need muscle I guess. They use and abuse these men though and spit them out when they get old or hurt.

That chart is horrible, cant read it when you have to scroll up, down, left, right just to read one sentence.

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You can save it to your desktop and then open it in any other program for easy viewing. The size prohibits easy reading.

~Tenth

reply to post by hadriana


Yea, I know a lot of people in that boat. I'm majoring in something completely unpractical (music) , when people call me out on it I just bring up the dozens of people I know who got "Useful" degrees and are still suffering right now. Hey, if I'm going to have a hard time then I'm going to do it on my own terms.

reply to post by tothetenthpower

How is that even possible?

communism

How is it possible? We've made too many PhD.'s. My degree-granting institutions all but paid for my degrees -- that's eight years' worth of full-time study and research at the graduate level.

I was not alone. The applicant to job ratio in my field (humanities) is supposedly 19:1 these days, though I think that's a bit low. It's probably more like 40:1 if you consider many of the so-called "jobs" in the humanities do not require a full Ph.D. -- just completion of course work and examinations.

I drive a livery cab -- and make more money doing this than I ever have teaching.

Form the post by Hadriana,

"It SUCKS to have an education and skills and not be able to use them. People always need muscle I guess. They use and abuse these men though and spit them out when they get old or hurt."

This is so true. If you want to keep your job in today's economy, you have to do all the dirty and hard work for minimum wage without benefits. Don't get sick, hurt or old, never show how intelligent you really are and NEVER, EVER ask for a raise, or the next "lucky" guy in line will be doing your crappy job and you'll be living on the streets or, if you're "lucky" you can live with some relatives and collect welfare.

I'm considering writing a book on how to survive a minimum wage job and tricks you can use to make it work more in your favor. I've developed a number of pretty good strategies and tricks over the past four years of crappy, underpaid jobs. On second thought, I'd rather keep that stuff a secret.