Secret New Documents Reveal Shocking Truth About Vaccine Cover UP.

reply to post by beckybecky


I am waiting for the Gov. to release the Jim Jones Coolaid Vaccine that Prevents People from Thinking at ALL.........

My Wife has been adamant over the years that our children not get vaccines. I was vaccinated as a child but it seems things are getting way out of hand. The agenda could be one of several reasons or all in one. Tracking devices are so small now they can be injected without anyone knowing. Nanobots are capable of incredible things. Secret testing of drugs used within the so called harmless innoculations or just plain genocide, sterilization on an on it could be any or all of these as well as something we haven't even heard of. There is a whole group of people who believe that vaccines are a major cause of Autism, who knows all I know is a huge part of the Pharmas were in buisness during Nazi Germany and hugely connected to the Thiird Reich, if you look deep you'll find a lot of connections to that fact. I don't use google I use Startpage use this search term and see what comes up "big pharma and nazi germany" also look here for another story in relation to this post and what I pointed out.

www.naturalnews.com...

It's worse than most people think!

Originally posted by TheDoctor46
I refused to send my son for the mmr around 5 or so years ago despite constant attempts by the health authority. They tried scaremongering tactics. But we stood strong against them. Basically i did not trust these injections. Glad i did now. The big question is (unless ive missed something) is why are they giving them? Whats there agenda?

This may sound a bit "dated" since I have been on the internet (arpa originally) since 1978 LOL. This vaccine garbage kind of reminds me of the 90's and all the circle jerk porn sites. You know the ones, you open a url/link accidentally (or otherwise) and 5 more windows open and while closing those, 10 more open and so on until you have to just jump to the task manager and kill your browser.

Big pharma is a lot like that, like a porn site circle jerk. They vaccinate you or sell you some crap that you have the misfortune of thinking you need and then 5 symptoms start from the 5 or more side-effects, so now you have to buy more of their garbage to fix the problems that the first round of medication caused. Then while your supposedly trying to fix those side effects, 10 more crop up from the second round of medication that was supposed to fix the first 5 side-effects.

Around and around it goes, until you just say, "SCREW THIS CRAP" and get off the ride.

If there are real vaccines, we ain't gettin' them.

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by beckybecky

 

Well you're really going to have to explain the lack of deathly illnesses and the elimination of some of them, that occurred through vaccines.

I agree there's a lot of questions, but reality herself says vaccines work. I think you really shouldn't be trying to disprove something that is proven. Your resources are better spent investigating what is in the vaccine besides the vaccine.

edit on 8-1-2013 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)

I'll help you get started on that one:

vactruth.com...

www.naturalnews.com...

There are many documented events where outbreaks occur and the vast majority of those infected are those who have been vaccinated against said disease.

Also please look up the statistical decline of the diseases prior to their vaccine introduction.

I'm an RN and I never take the flu shot. I havn't been sick at all in 18 years. I'm 52...

I was told at my work to not talk about my views on the flu shot. I could just leave that nice PDF laying around, but they'd know who left it out.

There was just a big to-do on the news about the current flu and how severe it is, with the usual fear mongering. They sometimes feature tweets about what they are talking about. One of them was a viewer stating that her family had gotten the flu. I thought I saw something and bumped back the story. Sure enough, right below that tweet (they were shoing their computer screen) was one from the same person finishing their story, stating "and we all got the flu shot"!

The newscasters conveniently left that tweet out of the story.

There hasn't been a major influenza epidemic since 1918.. have known people that had came down with it then and survived to live very long, productive lives.... When I was a kid in school between 1955 and 1967 it was common for kids, including myself, to catch some form of flu every year and I don't recall anyone that died from it... The sickest I have ever been was from what was described as a fever of unknown origin while I was in Vietnam and we were given countless inoculations prior to leaving the states while in training......My wife gets a flu shot every year and every year she has flu symptoms and is bed ridden for at least a couple of day shortly after receiving it... ...I take a mess of vitamins and food supplements daily and have been doing very well since I've been doing so.. I take prescription pain medication but have found I need much less of it since I've been taking the assortment of vitamins........ About 90% of the medications that have been prescribed for me in the last 30 years have had negative effects on me that made me worse off than I was before taking them and usually end up being thrown out... There has been two deaths this year in the Dallas/ Fort Worth area and the local news networks have been interviewing health care professionals that are pushing flu shots like we are all going to die without them....I haven't bought into this nonsense yet and can't imagine ever doing so.... Prescriptions wouldn't be required if the crap they are peddling wasn't poisonous..

reply to post by kalamatas


These are not exactly neutral unbiased sources dude.

I'm sorry. these diseases are gone because of vaccines. They didn't run rampant for hundreds of years and then suddenly disappear when vaccines were introduced by chance. The global population didn't go up by a factor of x3 around the same time as these vaccines by chance.

It was because of vaccines. That's why we didn't have 7 billion people on Earth until them.

3 billion to 7 billion in 50 years, starting around the time of widespread vaccine use.

And you know, I'll go further than that. There's strong evidence that ancient Rome knew about bacteria, and had some form of vaccines. And guess what. The population of Rome alone was in the millions then as well.



I maintain my point though. They are putting things into them that are a big no no. But vaccines are the primary cause of health and population increases in the last 50 years.

I dont believe in the flu vaccine. I think its hype to make money and also I believe they throw extras in there to hurt us. They PUSH PUSH PUSH that flu shot. Them wanting it mandatory so bad is curious. Thanks for the article, its excellent!

As much as they push flu shots, I can't see how they can possibly force it on us. At least on me anyway. If they force it at work, I'll walk out that moment.

And how can the government force it on me? What threat can they use "get the shot or go to jail"? I just don't think it will happen. It would cause a revolt. Too many people would refuse.

I'm not saying they won't try. Anyone have any ideas on how, logistically, they would forcibly vaccinate against the flu?

Thank you for the info OP

Lining their pockets at the expense of people's lives, over & over again...and not just the vaccine manufactures
How/Why have we let people with that type of mentality take over & start running this world?

Snake oil salesmen

And as far as the "vaccines killed off disease X" & providing evidence as "well it's not around anymore is it?"...

Nature evolves, things change, living conditions change, our environmental factors change...diseases go extinct...plenty of cases where a disease disappeared without any help from vaccines.

Not completely discrediting the influence of vaccines but it is possible that many of the old diseases that are currently targeted by vaccines may have been pushed into obsolescence by "less than optimal" changes to social conditions.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by kalamatas

 

These are not exactly neutral unbiased sources dude.

I'm sorry. these diseases are gone because of vaccines. They didn't run rampant for hundreds of years and then suddenly disappear when vaccines were introduced by chance. The global population didn't go up by a factor of x3 around the same time as these vaccines by chance.

It was because of vaccines. That's why we didn't have 7 billion people on Earth until them.

3 billion to 7 billion in 50 years, starting around the time of widespread vaccine use.

And you know, I'll go further than that. There's strong evidence that ancient Rome knew about bacteria, and had some form of vaccines. And guess what. The population of Rome alone was in the millions then as well.



I maintain my point though. They are putting things into them that are a big no no. But vaccines are the primary cause of health and population increases in the last 50 years.

edit on 8-1-2013 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)

Thanks Gorman91. I agree with you for the most part. I don't think everyone needs to get every imaginable vaccine that is available. If you live in an area that has had some cases or outbreaks of some kind of disease then I see no problem with getting vaccinated against that particular disease.

My issue is not with the vaccines themselves, but with the stuff they put in the vaccines, as you mentioned. Thimerosal specifically. I have been told by my doctor that they do not use thimerosal in vaccines for children under 6 or pregnant women. However, I am not sure what else goes into vaccines as I am no doctor or lab worker.

Also, we have the ability to say no. I know they like to push it hard, but if you feel you really don't want or need it for you or your family, it's as easy as just not getting it done.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by beckybecky

 

Well you're really going to have to explain the lack of deathly illnesses and the elimination of some of them, that occurred through vaccines.

I agree there's a lot of questions, but reality herself says vaccines work. I think you really shouldn't be trying to disprove something that is proven. Your resources are better spent investigating what is in the vaccine besides the vaccine.

edit on 8-1-2013 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)

Actually I'd like you or anyone who claims it to prove that vaccines DID get rid of any illnesses. Where's the proof? There isn't any! It's ALWAYS been simply "STATED" by who??? The vaccine makers. That malarchy has been handed down decade after decade and generation after generation. There is NO proof that this is actually the case. It's a wide held belief and that's IT. There is in fact a LOT of evidence to the contrary that's been around ever since vaccines have been.

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
This may sound a bit "dated" since I have been on the internet (arpa originally) since 1978 LOL. This vaccine garbage kind of reminds me of the 90's and all the circle jerk porn sites. You know the ones, you open a url/link accidentally (or otherwise) and 5 more windows open and while closing those, 10 more open and so on until you have to just jump to the task manager and kill your browser.

Big pharma is a lot like that, like a porn site circle jerk. They vaccinate you or sell you some crap that you have the misfortune of thinking you need and then 5 symptoms start from the 5 or more side-effects, so now you have to buy more of their garbage to fix the problems that the first round of medication caused. Then while your supposedly trying to fix those side effects, 10 more crop up from the second round of medication that was supposed to fix the first 5 side-effects.

Around and around it goes, until you just say, "SCREW THIS CRAP" and get off the ride.

If there are real vaccines, we ain't gettin' them.

Cheers - Dave

edit on 1/8.2013 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)

So true. You can notice in people who aren't on meds. Then they get on one for something, and just watch, a couple of years later, they're NEVER only on that one med - but a plethora of meds.

reply to post by Cherry0


The reasons you listed is why I don't get vaccines anymore for common stuff. The particular nasty ones like meningitis and and the lot I will take because that is one way I would rather not go. Flue vaccine though? nope.

I measure it like that basically. Flue vaccine doesn't seem to work for me, and I suspect it's because cities have more than one strand and are more likely to produce mutations than out in the open. I more or less get sick every other year with the flue, and I usually get the strand that I am not vaccinated for, so it's pointless to me.

But the rest, yea I'll take them. I don't want to die to brain eating germs, thank you very much. lol.

reply to post by thebtheb


Vaccines do not get rid of an illness. They give you a weaker form of the illness so you can immunize yourself faster.

so yea....


This is also why I tend to only get vaccines for things that can kill me. Like meningitis. Because the flu is not going to kill you in a 1st world country with decent health care.

As for proof. Again, there's a reason we're at 7 billion people.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by kalamatas

 

These are not exactly neutral unbiased sources dude.

I'm sorry. these diseases are gone because of vaccines. They didn't run rampant for hundreds of years and then suddenly disappear when vaccines were introduced by chance. The global population didn't go up by a factor of x3 around the same time as these vaccines by chance.

It was because of vaccines. That's why we didn't have 7 billion people on Earth until them.

3 billion to 7 billion in 50 years, starting around the time of widespread vaccine use.

And you know, I'll go further than that. There's strong evidence that ancient Rome knew about bacteria, and had some form of vaccines. And guess what. The population of Rome alone was in the millions then as well.



I maintain my point though. They are putting things into them that are a big no no. But vaccines are the primary cause of health and population increases in the last 50 years.

edit on 8-1-2013 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)

Vaccinations are the cause of population increase? Hardly! We reached our first billion in the 1800s. By 1950, that figure had quadrupedalled. Now in half as much time, that figure has doubled. It's not vaccines - it's called exponential population growth - and most of it has happened where there ARE no vaccines.

What diseases ran rampant for hundreds of years? Hardly any! Diseases come and go all by themselves. All of the major diseases disappear by themselves, with or without vaccines. The black plague disappeared by itself.

Again, there is no proof whatsoever that vaccines made polio, small pox etc. disappear. And there is plenty of evidence that these diseases were ALREADY on the decline before these vaccines were introduced. In fact, the FDA and the CDC have both publicly admitted that the only reason why polio exists today is because of the polio vaccine. Look it up!

I shared this on Facebook. I got asked, "Do you literally just believe every conspiracy theory that exists?" Ironically, I hardly post conspiracy theories, nor do I ever post my stance on them on Facebook. It's interesting how people will never question science/medicine. It's like everything they initially hear about a specific science topic is always constant. The problem is they spoon fed the same BS all the time, and the BS will stick with them.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by thebtheb

 

Vaccines do not get rid of an illness. They give you a weaker form of the illness so you can immunize yourself faster.

so yea....


This is also why I tend to only get vaccines for things that can kill me. Like meningitis. Because the flu is not going to kill you in a 1st world country with decent health care.

As for proof. Again, there's a reason we're at 7 billion people.

edit on 8-1-2013 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)

If there's any reason we're at 7 billion people, aside from the fact that it's natural exponential population growth, it's because of antibiotics, not vaccines.

reply to post by thebtheb


Yes and that growth was not changing...until the 1960s, where upon which the use of vaccinations, state regulated health mandates, and many modern practices were spread globally in the post war era. And after that point, the vector of growth shifted.

So yea. It was vaccines.

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You will note here that the time of that population explosion correlates to the creation of several vaccines for children. Greatly reducing the death rate for children in general.

en.wikipedia.org...

So yea. You're kind of wrong here. There were many rampant diseases widespread.

Originally posted by catswithbigpaws
I shared this on Facebook. I got asked, "Do you literally just believe every conspiracy theory that exists?" Ironically, I hardly post conspiracy theories, nor do I ever post my stance on them on Facebook. It's interesting how people will never question science/medicine. It's like everything they initially hear about a specific science topic is always constant. The problem is they spoon fed the same BS all the time, and the BS will stick with them.

Yeah, read it in the paper and it's true forever.