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Freemasons inside our banks? PHOTO EVIDENCE

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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Beretta : All things Masonic are surely Demonic !

AugustusMasonicus: And believing in the demonic is purely moronic.


Unknown to most lower level members of the Masons, such as yourself, there is a demonic and virulently occultist aspect to Masonry. It is at the levels in Masonry that most Masons never get to.

Freemasonry is a blend of occult, paganism, satanism, demonology and spiritualism. It is not of God!

As for Masonic symbols, we see that serpent worship is rampant within Masonry. This serpent worship absolutely proves Freemasonry is Satan worship . But, Masons also consider the Serpent to be the Savior of the World!

Masons have mixed idolatry, paganism, the occult, Kabala, fertility cults, Satanism, spiritualism, demonology, and put it into a blender and come up with the Masonic religion. It is not of God! It is a false religion; the Harlot of Babylon. Masons say they offer new candidates "the light". The light they are actually giving is: Lucifer. The Christian Bible says that Satan walks to and fro on this earth masquerading as an "angel of light", that many might be deceived.

Satan does not need to receive worship to achieve his goals. All he has to do is to keep a man from following Jesus. Satan knows that anyone who does not follow in the teachings of Jesus does not have God. (2 John 9)


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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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yea

there is one true faith

all the rest are comprimised...



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:38 PM
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You must be the most well connected person on earth! I bow to your awesomeness!

You, posing as an average person on ATS have garnered the knowledge that Freemasons have sought for millennia!

Just frickin WOW!

So tell me Mr. Awesome, (I hope you don't mind if I call you that), Where did you gain this secret knowledge of the fraternity my brethren and I are low ranking members of?

I am giddy with anticipation!

edit on 8-1-2013 by network dude because: Augustusmasonicus is so low, he cannot reach his beer. Sucks to be him. Bwahahahahah!



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:43 PM
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are you trying to make an ignorant assertion to the Masons, who also do not selfishly guard anything

The lodges would be so much more light and airy if they didn't have such opaque windows and heavy curtains.
Wouldn't you all feel more enLIGHTened if you'd let the sunshine flow into your buildings more freely?
I know, I know. Someone might see your silly ceremonies.
By the way, what exactly does it symbolize when you have one pant leg cinched up during that one initiation?



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:45 PM
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ican do that lolol

its a religion of the material world

no afterlife

making money and richness of life....is the modus operandi

learning how to manipulate and "use" people..to assist your life....

its all one big hoodwink....they are praying on peoples need to be part of a brotherhood

demonising gods word....leaving our souls for them to control....

they did it with the torah....god sent jesus....they then corrupted the gospels...then god sent the quran

religion for them is very real....but they prey to the fallen angel....gods right hand man...i smell a scam lolol



they changed the ankh for the cross.
divine numbers in inches/cubic....changed to metric
corupted darwins studies

all to discredit god

surely..the effort they put in...only proves gods majesty....

catch 22, 22`s lol

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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Xoanon
 

The OP proves no such thing. The OP proves that the bank did not want to destroy the old building and preserved part of the old. He proved no "Masonic forethought". If it can helped, many try to preserve historical buildings.


You're a good guy but I think that maybe things have been a little lite around here lately and maybe you have been getting a little loose. Look, Lloyd's preserved the lodge because it is a lodge and part of their history.

I am sure that they wanted a nice place for Brothers from Black Horse of Lombard Street Lodge, No 4155 to visit when they go to Halifax.


Are you seriously going to attempt to disassociate the Halifax building from Freemasonry?

To All

No one is going to even raise an eyebrow over the fact that this building being finished up coincides with Lloyd's taking back their traditional name and re-engaging the business world as Lloyd's in 2013?

Ok.


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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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This reads like an article from the National Inquirer....You wouldn't know 'God' if he smacked you in the face dude...And if you are in this thread viewing the symbolism, he has smacked you in the face quite a bit...

Now I should point out a huge flaw in your entire premise...Freemasonry is based on the first three degrees conferred in the Blue Lodge. There are no 'higher-levels'; and if you read even poorly, a wikipedia link, would even tell you that there are only additional degrees.



Blue Lodges, Craft Lodges or Ancient Craft Lodges refer to the lodges that work the first three Masonic degrees, rather than the appendant Masonic orders such as York Rite and Scottish Rite.


You should really look up the word appendant.




There is no degree of Craft Freemasonry higher than that of Master Mason.[24] Although some Masonic bodies and orders have further degrees named with higher numbers, these degrees may be considered to be supplements to the Master Mason degree rather than promotions from it.





Anti-Masonry (alternatively called Anti-Freemasonry) has been defined as "opposition to Freemasonry."[69][70] However, there is no homogeneous anti-Masonic movement. Anti-Masonry consists of widely differing criticisms from diverse (and often incompatible) groups who are hostile to Freemasonry in some form. Critics have included religious groups, political groups, and conspiracy theorists. There have been many disclosures and exposés dating as far back as the 18th century. These often lack context,[71] may be outdated for various reasons,[44] or could be outright hoaxes on the part of the author, as in the case of the Taxil hoax.[72] These hoaxes and exposés have often become the basis for criticism of Masonry, often religious or political in nature (usually by totalitarian dictatorial regimes,[73] but also arising in the historical Anti-Masonic Party in the United States), or are based on suspicion of corrupt conspiracy of some form. The political opposition that arose after the "Morgan Affair" in 1826 gave rise to the term "Anti-Masonry," which is still in use today, both by Masons in referring to their critics and as a self-descriptor by the critics themselves.[74]


I thought we should start you off there.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for getting back.

I just wanted you to know that I completely disagree with attempting to put any kind of cross hairs on Freemasonry when it comes to nepotism and networking.

Ethnic groups, and in fact just plain old people, are much worse when it comes to that stuff.

And in my opinion it just gives people an excuse to point at others for doing the same # that they do. It just makes it easy because Freemasonry is a group of guys that are easy to ID and they have a name.

And they come out of the gate running with 'secrets' so that takes care of half the job for the maniacal torch-wielding villagers when they need to get the attention off of themselves.

And historically almost all of the big complaints that have resulted in Mason deaths have come at the hands of people that the Lodge would not accept. They will accept just about anyone, people, think about that.

Lame.

Thanks.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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And historically almost all of the big complaints that have resulted in Mason deaths have come at the hands of people that the Lodge would not accept. They will accept just about anyone, people, think about that.


Good point! It almost makes you wonder why the Lodges denied them in the first place.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:07 PM
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yes i agree with you 100%

there are many known lodges and masons....

but then there is a tier who coordinate these lodges

then there is a tier of eites in the shadows



as for afirica,
most african leaders have to directly deal with these people...ie zimbabwe

i will leave you with one remark....as i mentioned there are elites in the shadows

there is also a tier of a particular branch...in full view....they also pull no punches....and discuss the "order" in top levels...ie at the UN....

google "the knights of malta"


BTW...if/when the US is bankrupt...who do you think can/will bail us out.......i`l answer n my next post

peace mate...but your "common sense" is what they invest heavily in....the "dumbing down"...be it flouride or be it ugly betty....any society that operates in the shadows...love people like you....they put a wrench in the works....the road to hell is paved with good intentions ..

maybe some people on earth, operate out of what you believe to be the norm...maybe lol

peace





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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by thePharaoh
as most starting governments..ie south sudan....are pure lodge owned


There are no recognized lodges in Sudan.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Beretta
Unknown to most lower level members of the Masons, such as yourself, there is a demonic and virulently occultist aspect to Masonry. It is at the levels in Masonry that most Masons never get to.


I was going to reply but I see your thoughtful and intelligent posting style has gotten you banned.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by thePharaoh
as most starting governments..ie south sudan....are pure lodge owned


There are no recognized lodges in Sudan.



hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

i never said there were

im saying...who authorised and allowed that cowboy hat wearing leader, to split the country and sell the oil



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by thePharaoh
im saying...who authorised and allowed that cowboy hat wearing leader, to split the country and sell the oil


Not that I really care but if you are going to postulate that it is some sort of Masonic conspiracy I would hope that you are going to present some rather convincing evidence to support your point.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by thePharaoh
im saying...who authorised and allowed that cowboy hat wearing leader, to split the country and sell the oil


Not that I really care but if you are going to postulate that it is some sort of Masonic conspiracy I would hope that you are going to present some rather convincing evidence to support your point.


the petrodollar system...like the reserve.....could be masonic

just saying.

makes one wonder....most atheists were christian before.....after being atheist...what religious influence do most of TPTB have

if they have none...then i wonder how the mind works when you remove faith....


before you get nasty...i want to say...nice chat...i cherish the convo
bless...

peace


oh yea BTW...the only "body" that could bail out the US ...is the catholic church

thats a tied up in a nice little bow


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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:15 PM
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Okay, let's look at your argument in a logical manner. You said Masonry is demonic and we denied it, so you call us low level members. A logical mind would say we are privy to far more information than you are so we'd know better than you. Unless you think yourself smarter and that "low level Masons" are just ignorant. Do you not think we research this stuff too? Do you have such a superiority complex that all rational thought escapes you?

Plus, you don't know where we stand in the Masonic fraternity. Nor do I believe that you know how Freemasonry is operated and structured. I bet you have some common misconception, but I doubt your beliefs are accurate.


Freemasonry is a blend of occult, paganism, satanism, demonology and spiritualism. It is not of God!

According to you, but your opinion is not fact.


As for Masonic symbols, we see that serpent worship is rampant within Masonry.

Where in Freemasonry is serpent worship rampant? Please tell me in what degree or body that this occurs?


But, Masons also consider the Serpent to be the Savior of the World!

No we don't.
Fanatics are so sad.


Masons have mixed idolatry, paganism, the occult, Kabala, fertility cults, Satanism, spiritualism, demonology, and put it into a blender and come up with the Masonic religion.

Freemasonry doesn't meet the basic requirements to be considered a religion. Also, an exercise or behavior used in a religious act doesn't necessary mean that act is uniquely religious. A simple example: Drinking water and eating bread at the Eucharist doesn't mean that every-time I drink water or eat bread (as part of a sandwich or toast) that I'm taking part in the Eucharist.

Also, symbols don't have an exclusive, singular, or unique meaning. They are arbitrary and ambiguous, meaning they change meaning and interpretation with the intent of the user and eyes of the beholder.


Masons say they offer new candidates "the light".

Light = knowledge.


The light they are actually giving is: Lucifer. The Christian Bible says that Satan walks to and fro on this earth masquerading as an "angel of light", that many might be deceived.

Light is a common symbol among all cultures and religions. Lucifer was only a Babylonian King (Isaiah 14:4) and Lucifer was a mistranslation by St. Jerome in the 4th century. The true translation was "Day Star, Son of the Morning" and in Jerome's time the Day Star or Morning Star was called Lucifer (today we know it as the planet Venus). Christ is referred to as the day/morning star and the Bible says to let the light of the morning star into our heart. As most royalty is, Jesus is described as illustrious and shining.

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I know one Lodge I go to once in a while has there windows open and meet in the day time. Also, our buildings are well lit. And most Lodges meet at night after everyone is done at work, school, or whatever daily vocation takes their time. Some Lodges meet in the day time, but that's because they meet on the weekend.

Our privacy is not an indication of wrongdoing. There is nothing wrong with our privacy.

All parts of our initiation are explained to the members.

reply to post by Xoanon
 

All you're doing is making assumptions. Show me proof.

reply to post by thePharaoh
 

The "tier" that coordinates the Lodges is called a Grand Lodge, or in some areas, a Provincial Grand Lodge.

There is no shadow tier. You obviously don't know how Freemasonry operates and is structured. Thanks for playing.


google "the knights of malta"

Not all Orders of the Knights of Malta are connected to the Masons. There is one group that falls under the Masons, one that falls under the Catholic Church, and other misc. groups. The same goes for the Knights Templar. Just like Freemasonry these names are not copyrighted and so anybody can use them.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 

The only Grand Lodges in Africa we (at least the Grand Lodge of Idaho) recognize is Gabon; Benin; Burkina Faso, West Africa; Cameroon; Ivory Coast; Madagascar; Senegal, West Africa; South Africa; and Togo.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:15 PM
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peace mate...but your "common sense" is what they invest heavily in....the "dumbing down"...be it flouride or be it ugly betty....any society that operates in the shadows...love people like you....they put a wrench in the works....the road to hell is paved with good intentions ..


Careful with the 'people like you'.

There is virtually no one of these types of 'secret organizations' that I have not belonged to. Go ahead. Pick one.

Dude, I have not been dumbed-down, I have been through it all and seen most of it. I have been you, in a sense, when it comes to these topics. Hate to sound like Bane, but I am from the 'dark', I usually eat at least two meals a day there.

I am just finding it so strange, personally, that anyone would ever attribute 'common sense' to me. I suppose I am just going to have to settle in to the fact that I am getting old.

It makes me think of the Buddhist 'Ox Herding' images; have you seen them?



The guy at the end is called, roughly, "Returning to the village with helping hands".

I feel like that now, a little. Only not from sitting in a zendo, but by dint of age and experience.

Anyway, I don't understand how anyone can attribute the list of 'afflictions' dispersed upon humanity to some evil 'Illuminati', when the fact is that it can all be shown to merely be artifacts of human culture everywhere. At best, it is witchcraft.

We are only going to be able to solve all of the problems that face us by accepting responsibility for them. All of them. Oh, and that means whether there is a 'they/them' or not.

This 'Blame the Freemasons' thing is as old as the hills. It has never, ever, worked for us and is such the transparent witch hunt that it has become ludicrous.

The French Revolution, which many still view as a high point in human self-advocacy, was fomented in a Masonic lodge, for god's sake.

Anyway, in the end, I know that there are those out there that will grow old stuck at this place with Freemasonry, I have met many of them in person. And I also know that either way, a new crop will spring up every year until a more powerful narrative takes its place.




posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Xoanon
The French Revolution, which many still view as a high point in human self-advocacy, was fomented in a Masonic lodge, for god's sake.

French Freemasons were mostly aristocrats on the wrong end of that Revolution, but then again, I'm sure there were Masons on both side of this conflict.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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Show me proof.


Fun.

Proof of what exactly? That the Lloyd's bank has connections to Freemasonry which is documented and obvious, especially through their combined use of the Bee and Beehive symbolism?

I had posted that stuff in the hopes of getting the thread on track, not to make any point about Freemasonic complicity in jack or #, other than preserving a loved building.

Anyhow, me come in peace, Kimosabe.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:27 PM
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nice post

i do realise that youve been round the block


but for some people...who feel the effects of the actions...masons are very real.

especially when we discuss the financial industry

i used to think its "our" fault...but then i saw palastine, iraq and now syria....i saw how prison works...making jail so hideous that anyone will pay the bail.....i saw...in every industry...an alogorythmic unit taking over...

but i was just born yesterday...and im dying tomorrow....how is it my fault

there is a collective who have the inch...follow the money
the op did...he found a jewish temple

who always gets east to fight west.....muslim vs christians
then when all is dead...who cleans up

and 9/11...to use our army fot their wars..


hmmm...maybe

peace


peace



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