The saddest graph you'll see today

reply to post by Asktheanimals


Your rephrased statement is still prejudiced.

reply to post by polarwarrior


Nobody said anything of the sort, your replies to try and say otherwise are false.

I found a completely different set of figures from a reliable source which I posted earlier, they can't both be right.

that graph omitted the 'buyers remorse'/false police report category

..or didn't that fit with your agenda?..

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Superhans
There is one "sad" thing i see about this graph.
1. That is, if a man is accused and stands trial and is found "innocent" by a jury of his peers. He is somehow still "guilty". The graph clearly shows only 2 out of the 100s being "falsely accused" but the ones that stand trial and are innocent are not falsely accused for some reason.

In the eyes of the femenists who put together the chart, the innocent ones are still guilty anyway.

Why is it that whenever a woman protests against rape, presents rape info, whatever, she's automatically labeled a "feminist?"

It reeks of "how dare you!"

Now, I have problems with the graph. As far as I can tell, there's no way to accurately measure how many rapes go unreported. Although I assume you could survey a segment of society and then extrapolate to get stats for the whole society.

Disagree with the graph, question the validity of the info...wonderful. But feminism isn't a four letter word.

reply to post by smyleegrl


I agree smylee, feminist isn't a four letter word, especially since the definition of feminist is dependent on how one defines the word and it seems no two women have the same definition! For some women it is an insult depending on how it is used, for some it is a compliment....just like the definition of what constitutes rape is fuzzy as well and no two people seem to define it the same way.

Anyway, enough of semantics. I agree with your thoughts. There have most likely been polls taken where women were asked if they were raped and the women said "yes" and the next question was "did you report the rape" and they said "no".

I think the bugs really crawl out from under the rug when we consider that many rapes are committed by a person close to the victim. That is what really disturbs me the most. Many are of an incestuous nature, or "friend of the family" and many occur with people you think you can trust....co workers, boyfriends, husbands.....What does that say about the level of trust within our society?

Here's another thought, there is a reason guns are referred to as "the great equalizer." it should not have to be this way, but then again.....humans have been abusing each other since the dawn of our existence and after thousands of years we still haven't figured out a way to stop this behavior......that thought is really, really sad.

reply to post by Spike Spiegle


That graphic proves nothing other than lots of rapes were reported. Perhaps there are so few convictions because so few turned out to be false? I don't know either way but neither does anyone else - it is just graphics to illustrate a point about rape.

reply to post by Maxatoria


True enough as people can and do lie about these things. What I meant was geared more towards the scenario where a child goes to the parent and tells them something has happened and the parent goes and kicks the tar out of the rapist.

Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
It's not a question of belief...

It's a fact.

SS

You just stated that there are certain number of unreported crimes and that the number of reported crimes is a specific percentage of total.

The fact that they are unreported sort of makes that statement fiction and not fact. You can believe that reported crimes are a certain percentage of total but that doesn't make it a fact.

I believe the number is probably correct. I also believe that the more women that are armed the smaller that number will be.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon

 

This happens so often. Not to mention the sociopathic qualities I have seen in many underage girls. Many of them use sex as a weapon, they will purposefully seduce older men, then use their age as a means for blackmail and coercion. It is disgusting, and our culture breeds such nonsense.

For it be statutory rape doesnt the girl need to be under 16?

What are men over 18 doing sleeping with 14 and 15 year olds in the first place???

Sickening whether consensual or not

The girl does not need to be under 16 in many places in the US for it to constitute statutory rape.

Most of the time you see a lot of relationships between guys who are about 18 or 19 and the girl is generally 14-17.

reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon


When your 30 a 3-5 age gap isnt that big a deal, when your a teenager its huge.

Guys I know who go for younger girls are generally just taking advantage.

An 18 yo with a 17 yo no biggy, an 18-19 yo with a 14-15 year old sickening and yes I think its statutory rape

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff


Nothing is cut and dried though is it? For example, an older guy that i know very well was 22 when he got with his then gf - who was 14 at the time. The guy in question is now in his 70's and still married to the same girl in a very happy, loving relationship.

These days, people would be all over him for being a kiddy fiddler and the like when the reality of that particular situation couldn't be further from the truth.

Really, that is the problem with "one size fits all" solutions - generally, actually, they don't.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon

 

When your 30 a 3-5 age gap isnt that big a deal, when your a teenager its huge.

Guys I know who go for younger girls are generally just taking advantage.

An 18 yo with a 17 yo no biggy, an 18-19 yo with a 14-15 year old sickening and yes I think its statutory rape

Are you female?

reply to post by Flavian

Really, that is the problem with "one size fits all" solutions - generally, actually, they don't.

Exactly, but this is the mentality that has been shoved down our throats.

I feel like we live in a culture dominated by soccer moms.

reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon

Are you female?

No

Just to make things clear on some fronts. A lot of time the unreported rapes are reported to health officials or are reported and the women later decide not to press charges or give the name of the perpetrator. In a rape case the victim is the one who is taken through the ringer as the burden of proof is on them.

The harder it is to meet women, the more rapists we'll create as a society.

The term rapist is equivalent to a caveman hitting a woman over the head with a club.

Why?

Because they are acting like animals who do not see a rational opportunity to romance.

Is rape natural or basically a mental disorder?

reply to post by Spike Spiegle


Thanks, I needed a good laugh! I especially liked the part where there were two little men for wrongly accused as opposed to the hundreds of little ladies that never reported the rape. Like conjecture about manufactured statistics much?

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

Guys I know who go for younger girls are generally just taking advantage.

Young teenage girls take advantage of older teen guys as well. Junior and senior guys are the most sought after by freshman girls in high school. They are more likely to have money and cars. Probably the most prevalent fantasy for young teen girls is the male in his late teens or early 20's.

As for the maturity level, it's pretty much equal between a young teen girl and older teen guy.

Originally posted by oonkala
Just to make things clear on some fronts. A lot of time the unreported rapes are reported to health officials or are reported and the women later decide not to press charges or give the name of the perpetrator. In a rape case the victim is the one who is taken through the ringer as the burden of proof is on them.

Just to make things clear on some other fronts. A lot of time the man reports a domestic battery and later, he goes to jail even though he has been battered and did nothing wrong.

Manufacturing statistics to suit my own agenda won't change this fact much like it doesn't change the fact that the graph the OP posted is a joke, a poor one at that and does not nor can not accurately reflect the information it claims too.