The world's rejection of universal love.

It is a rejection of universal love.

Originally posted by EllaMarina
And that brings me to another thing that disappoints me about humanity's collective attitude towards love and kindness: the idea that it should be free is taken as a call to socialism and is subsequently rejected. As though love is only ever expressed by charity and the giving of objects. How irregular!

edit on 7-1-2013 by EllaMarina because: (no reason given)

Man, I totally agree with you. It's most likely the few who've been able to gather the most, and their fear that the many (who they know are generally struggling to get by from day to day) will suddenly decide to come and take away what they've gathered together. These wealthy few live in fear of folks like us finding strength and power in numbers. So, they market competition and inter-society struggle as heroic and the highest expression of "rugged individualism" through our schools (sports) and our media, to keep us battling against one another so that they don't need to pay for the kind of overwhelming security it would actually take to keep themselves and their families (and possessions) safe during times of economic stress and hardship.

These people don't understand that the average person isn't a predator, and just wants a small slice of peace and security to enjoy with someone (or someones) that they can love and be loved by. They don't want to come and take that wealth away. But, the frightened rich can't imagine this to be true, since they've been raised to fear the common horde. It's really tragic.

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Nothing is free, not even love and kindness. There're just too many things that can happen in life. Too many emotions. Too much chaos. It's not butterflies and rainbows. One moment everyone is relaxed and the next everyone is panicking because there's a major earthquake. Everyone is calm and then some dumb**** saunters in unknowingly and breaks up the spiritual feeling and somebody gets angry. You love the cat and you're happy and you're holding it closely, gently rubbing your face on its head. Then you trip on a rock and drop him and his back slaps against a boulder and his spine shatters. He's euthanised. You love your mom with all your heart, but she doesn't always love you in the same kind of way because you're gay. You love your girlfriend, but she cheats on you anyway.

Your mistake is loving the ideal and not the reality.

Life is love and hate and joy and tragedy and life and death and honesty and cheating.

Life is everything. The good and the bad!

You either love life for everything it's or you pick it apart and love only what you want to.

Maybe I see things differently because I don't see feelings or people; I see systems. My mind is not about emotions. For me, everything is a complex system interacting with others.

I see a system that's unimaginably complex and we're like ants on an ant hill. So when someone comes out and is all self-righteous and holy I just think they're talking too much.

Yes, we have to act to do what we feel is right. Sometimes it'll be a good choice. Sometimes it won't be. And sometimes the only thing that matters is that we're still alive.

But from afar, we're as clueless and confused as a hill of ants.

From my perspective, good or evil, whoever, we're all roughly equal. I mean, I can examine each human under a microscope and find differences in the same way that I can see differences between ants, but ultimately, these differences blur and really make no difference to me in the end. We're homosapien, basically. We live on this planet in this star system in this galaxy in this universe... etc. If anything is evil, it's reality itself. But it's hard to hate reality because it lacks a greater context.

Originally posted by WhoKnows100

It's the separatist nature of this particular world, I think. There is an unawareness that we're all a part of the same energy and even share the same mind on some level.

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20

There is "unawareness that we're all a part of the same energy and even share the same mind on some level?" No, actually we are not. There are those who solely want what their flesh desires and nothing higher. There are those who solely seek to do evil. There are those who solely seek to do what Our Creator defined as good, right, just and fair. There are those who spit in the face of all that is good, right, just and fair as defined by Our Creator. There are those who delusion-ally think that they are "god" and live in an illusion and have every right to define their own good and evil and to hell with their neighbour. There are those who truly think that man is a parasite. There are those who think that tolerance means love and intolerance equals hatred.

Clearly we are not all of the same "energy" nor do we all share the "same mind on some level". To even think in that manner results in  calling evil good and good evil,  putting darkness for light and light for darkness and putting bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. 

What is your love? Who defines it? You? The UN? How about the men who seek to "love" little boys? What about those who think that murdering babies is an act of kindness and moral enlightenment? What about those who's love is so 'great' (sarcasm) that they see your future murder through population reduction as an act of kindness? What about those who's "self love" is so great that they condemn millions because they are simply not beautiful according to their own definition?

Your 'universal love' is a fallacy. You can't define it unless you equate good and evil. A planet whereby we can all just do anything to our heart's pleasure. We've been there - and those ungodly men were destroyed.

Good and Evil are merely man made concepts and nothing more. There are certainly no humans out there who purely seek to to do what you believe your Creator has deemed 'Good and Fair'; nor are there those who seek to live their lives 'to do nothing but evil' (also as defined by you). We are all humans and live in a world of subtle greys, not black and whites.

What may seem evil to you may well be perfectly acceptable to another culture or belief system. Your so called 'boy love' was a completely normal thing in one of the greatest civilisations of the past - the ancient greeks - and was in fact thought of as a mentoring relationship necessary for a boy to become a man. How many indigenous populations have been exterminated by good men wanting to do away with 'the heathens'.

You don't think the universal love as demonstrated by Jesus is something that all men should attain to reach. Evil as defined by you is simply ignorance of this universal love. And it is an ignorance which taints every word of your post. Lets not walk down the bloodied pages of the Christian history book and point out all the evils which have been perpetraited in the name of God's Word shall we...

Love is a concept far higher than man's definition of what is good and what is evil.

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I think it is much more than just one's energy that drives them to be evil and cruel. The environment in which he or she was brought up plays a major factor. When a child is born they do not decide right then and there, "I will kill many people!" The physical world they expience molds such characteristics. Light is white until impurities of an object create a physical color.


EDIT: This is a good post to relate.

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