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Perfect Love in the form of a perfect Sacrifice from God Himself.
otherwise we could know no perfection
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by winofiend
"Which human" seems to be a selective question. I prefer to say that God led me to Himself by showing me His Glory.
Originally posted by vaelamin
Im confused as to why atheists waste so much of there time and life arguing and whining about religion. You dont believe nor care for it yet for some reason you constantly talk about it? No wonder the bible thumpers never leave yall alone.
Besides, don't you think it's a nice thing, to try and help people see the light? We're all over 2000 years old now, time to stop playing with childish things..
"An honest man is always a child." Socrates
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by retirednature
We humans have no divinity, but God does. I see no satisfaction in the things of the world and human thought, which is how atheists believe. I think that if atheists look upon such as truth then their knowledge is a religion of mockery and pride doomed to self destruction.edit on 5-1-2013 by backcase because: (no reason given)
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Klassified
Why don't you post the previous couple of lines as well? He was speaking to priests, not to common folk.
it is incorrect. The truth is simple.
an eternity of creation without noticing God Who has created it? Creation is not eternal, God only is.
Are we not made in God's Image? God can obviously do without any of us. But we start to become what we admire, or even less than that. To love God means to have affection for our Father, and to love our neighbor is to live gratefully to God.
Why love a value or ethic when we can love the Creator of them. God is not anti social, He does not mind if we seek His Love as He Loves us in a perfect way.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Do you really want your kids growing up with such nonsense in their heads? Do you really want whole societies forming out of such beliefs? Of course not. If this were to happen it would mean that you failed as a parent, as a member of society, and have driven logic back into the dark ages.
According to Marx, religion is an expression of material realities and economic injustice. Thus, problems in religion are ultimately problems in society. Religion is not the disease, but merely a symptom. It is used by oppressors to make people feel better about the distress they experience due to being poor and exploited.
According to Karl Marx, religion is like other social institutions in that it is dependent upon the material and economic realities in a given society. It has no independent history; instead it is the creature of productive forces. As Marx wrote, “The religious world is but the reflex of the real world.”
Marx’s most famous statement about religion comes from a critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Law:
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
This is often misunderstood, perhaps because the full passage is rarely used: the boldface in the above is my own, showing what is usually quoted. The italics are in the original. In some ways, the quote is presented dishonestly because saying “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature...” leaves out that it is also the “heart of a heartless world.” This is more a critique of society that has become heartless and is even a partial validation of religion that it tries to become its heart. In spite of his obvious dislike of and anger towards religion, Marx did not make religion the primary enemy of workers and communists. Had Marx regarded religion as a more serious enemy, he would have devoted more time to it.
Marx is saying that religion is meant to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Marx is not entirely without sympathy: people are in distress and religion does provide solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.
The problem is that opiates fail to fix a physical injury — you only forget your pain and suffering. This can be fine, but only if you are also trying to solve the underlying causes of the pain. Similarly, religion does not fix the underlying causes of people’s pain and suffering — instead, it helps them forget why they are suffering and causes them to look forward to an imaginary future when the pain will cease instead of working to change circumstances now. Even worse, this “drug” is being administered by the oppressors who are responsible for the pain and suffering.