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Originally posted by CatrionaBeldame
I'm catching up. I'm so happy to see that this topic has taken off the way it has. I hope it keeps going. I'm really interested in the birth certificate part of this. For those of you that have already done this part, it'd be really good if you could write out how to do it step by step, and have examples of the letter we should use. This is something I'd like to do, and I hope that others would do.
Show me where I agreed to the rules of (insert name of Society here). I dare you!
Originally posted by miniatus
Laws mean nothing if they aren't enforced... victim-less or not .. we live in a society and we agree to rules..
Whoa, whoa whoa... So, in a city that gouges its people for upwards of 5 dollars an hour for parking, you think that someone who refuses to pay does so simply because they think they are "better than everyone else"? Really? is that what you honestly think? when was the last time you felt nothing but lint in your pocket?
even if not all of us agree with them.. if you continually violate them by speeding because you want to, drinking and driving because you don't care, refusing to pay tickets because you feel you're better than everyone else..
Show me the contract! Civilization means civil, and civil means contractual. Come on, big boy with your fangs... I dare you! Show me the contract! Bah... I know you won't, because you can't, because the only contracts currently in force against normal every day people are ADHESION contracts. Learn what that means.
well many of those result in simple fines.. but if you keep on keepin' on .. you deserve some jail time ..
Uhh, which society?
Society rules...
That's what is known in law as a Tort. It's a crime against me to claim me as your slave/participant in your nameless, nebulous "society", if it is against my will. Just because I was born here and your nameless society has almost everyone else bamboozled, does not make it any less a crime.
if you don't like them.. buy yourself an island and make your own, that's my feeling on the matter..
Says... you?
if enough of us don't like them then we should rally and change society .. that's how it works.
Not if you write through your signature/autograph "All Rights Reserved/Without Prejudice"
Originally posted by BlowinSmoke
[...]But see, what people DON'T UNDERSTAND is that the DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES is a trap. People waive their RIGHT TO TRAVEL, when they get a D.L.
Technically you're right, but I go through the motions under color of compliance, to avoid unnecessary complications caused by ignorant (trained to be ignorant) code-enforcement officers.
It's ALL in the WORDING. Your driver's license means you agree to all their laws when operating your "motor vehicle"...when actually, what you drive, is an AUTOMOBILE.
my point being, nobody gives up their power, control, and money just because their pawns tell them they're supposed to according to [fill in the blank]
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by dogstar23
my point being, nobody gives up their power, control, and money just because their pawns tell them they're supposed to according to [fill in the blank]
I think you are absolutely right on this. They might do terrible things to us and/or the planet in order to stay in control...unthinkable stuff.
Marbury v. Madison: Supreme Court established its authority 2 review & invalidate government actions that conflict w/Constitution
If we're free to due what we want, what would we due?