Can Extraterrestrials really be nudists?

maybe the aliens are wearing some sort of bio suit made of organic matter.

Maybe the ET Adam and Eve didn't eat from the tree of knowledge and grab the nearest fig leaf?

As jokey as my statement sounds, it is society which states that being clothed is the norm, whether it from Genesis, or just wanting to protect children from dangly bits, who knows.

My point is, if ET exists, and they like to be one with nature, maybe that is just how their society developed?

Keep in mind that clothing is not just for visual or social purposes. For humans, it's as much thermal protection and regulation of body heat as anything.

Astronauts in space wear special layers and also gold film to protect against extraterrestrial radiation.

Any extraterrestrial...with a chance of having an other-worlder contact, that has not yet been deemed "hospitable," should be "dressed to the nines" --- with full head helmet, full body armor --- with a dazzling array of hand held and robotic weapons; that would have any other-worlder...shaking by the knees.


Any other [non-body armor] first contact with possible hostiles --- should be made with laser hologram imagery; thus reducing the chance of getting wounded, captured or killled by said hostiles.

reply to post by FormerSkeptic


According to stories that talk about aliens, they (Reptilains and even greys afair) wear some light clothing, so no nudists

reply to post by ImpactoR


Well, that would be assuming that reptilians and greys are the only aliens, right?

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Or, maybe the grays are bio-mechanical technology, illuminated by a spirit, or consciousness, and designed for space travel?

Just a thought.

Here's the video that I had in mind. This uploader added some text commentary. It's the leaked footage from 50 or 60 years ago. These fellas are clearly the stylish "turtleneck sweater" species.

Originally posted by trysts
I love that film footage of the alien, even though it's special effects from what I've read.

The reports I've read and listened to concerning ETs is that many times it is not known for sure whether or not they are wearing a skin-tight outfit, or whether they are nude without having any discernible genitalia. Maybe they are sex-less beings?

They didn't have such amazing special effects 50 or 60 years ago. Then disbelievers would say the film is made to look old. But then there's also the very coordinated eye, head, shoulder and arm movements. The neck size/ shape is oddly perfect for the head (as is the collared attire).

Also, the standing position is clearly a slight lean with more weight on one leg like some people. Fingers move. Eye lids move. His (or her) attention is naturally directional and focused. It's classic footage. If you're not familiar, look up Roswell 1947. But this event could be from the many visits soon thereafter.

Disbelief of course indicates how some people absolutely cannot accept the truth even if it stared them straight in the eye.

Personally I think if its a modern account and it has nude aliens its most likely a made up account.

If you look at all the alien encounters over the last 100 years right up until the 90's pretty much all of them had aliens wearing clothing. Typically a one piece jumpsuit type outfit or form fitting, no zips or way into them type get up. Suddenly after about the early 90's you get more and more accounts of aliens (typically greys) wearing bupkis.

Personally I think its a trend brought about by film and TV really, how many films and TV series in the last 20 years dealing with aliens have given them clothing? very damn few and i cant really think of one off the top of my head that ive seen that has in at least 10 years, from a practical sense it makes sense given that clothing is usually harder to get right in VFX than good old flesh and muscle, so make your alien effects naked and suddenly their alot easier and cheaper to make. Before this during the 80s and earlier most aliens (ie human like ones, not bestial ones) depicted in media typically had some form of outfit on (yeah ET of E.T fame didnt but hey im not saying it was a hard and fast rule).

Look at cases like Travis Waltons, his greys had clothing on (although interestingly the 1993 movie 'Fire in the Sky' depicted his encounters aliens as naked, go figure), so did many other 'grey' sightings of the time and there after wore clothing of some type. So what changed that suddenly they started running around in the nude in the vast majority of cases?.. i think i have my answer.

To end im not saying we no longer get cases where aliens are wearing cloths since there are recent accounts that have them still, and im not saying old accounts where they appeared naked are somehow fakes, im not.

Im just pointing out that its interesting that with the sudden increased use of CGI for depicting aliens in media where the vast majority are always depicted naked for practical reasons, you suddenly find alot of the last decades accounts of alien encounters indicate they arent all that into pants.

The same way 'hoaxed' alien craft footage always shows their crafts getting more and more complex (The Drone flap comes to mind) like their Hollywood cgi counterparts rather than the old more widely reported simplistic discs with little external detail. Hoaxers are embellishing their work so it fits more in with what they think people expect something to look like (thanks to CGI and Hollywood) rather than what for decades most cases have shown such things to possibly look like.

Unfortunately it just makes figuring out what could or couldn't be a genuine encounter all that more difficult

Its also interesting how the whole greys are robots or vessels idea was also shadowed by a similar trend in depicting aliens in TV and film over the years... a bit of a chicken and the egg situation (unfortunately I strongly believe the egg came first). The entire concept of the 'Alien' and UFO within UFOlogy has outgrown, highjacked and evolved beyond the actual or probable reality of the subject matter... which is more or less the entire field of studies major negative issue.

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surely if they used mind control/telepathy whatever

they could depict themselves as the 'seer' would expect or be less shocked by

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And in how many cases has that ever been reported as happening? or have greys now become robotic nudist satanic extra-dimensional light-being demon spirit vessels with the power to control your minds eye.

Oh and the 'they can or should be able to make you see what they want you to see' is a pretty old TV trope itself hell Spielbergs 'Taken' used it right down to 'oh we make our ships through the power of thought' bull crud. Saves on VFX money if the aliens can mentally make themselves appear like a human to those that see them... even the film about Whitley Striebers book Communion pulled that same trick near the end 'show me what you really look like etc etc etc' alien pulls a piece of its face off etc etc, main character finds a bunch of blue alien face masks meh.

Sorry , not sure what angle your reply was taking so I assumed slightly hostile heh.

Edit:- same with the old Organic ship, clothing, alien argument, we never had it in the past since most sci-fi was about nuts and bolt craft and items. But then you had the whole organic ship, weapons etc craze in TV, movies, and games start up in the 90's and now its seen as a valid idea for UFOlogy aliens and craft when, when was the last reported case of anything bio-organic dealing with UFO's? Like in my opinion, UFOlogy has been irreparably 'fancyfied' in order to keep it relevant, which has pretty much destroyed its credibility.

Originally posted by BigfootNZ
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And in how many cases has that ever been reported as happening? or have greys now become robotic nudist satanic extra-dimensional light-being demon spirit vessels with the power to control your minds eye.

yup that one there^^^

Sorry , not sure what angle your reply was taking

so I assumed slightly hostile heh.

nope not hostile i thought most said they'd been brain wiped or summin...you know way too much about sci-fi
was said with good humour intended though,

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Originally posted by forgetmenot
reply to post by ImpactoR

 

Well, that would be assuming that reptilians and greys are the only aliens, right?

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And assuming reptilians or grays are anything other than the figment of people's imagination. Not much in the way of evidence to support they are anything other than that.

Last time scientists examined a gray alien, it was found that....oh wait, there's no shred of evidence we have ever examined an actual humanoid alien from another planet. Carry on.

Originally posted by FormerSkeptic

Originally posted by trysts
I love that film footage of the alien, even though it's special effects from what I've read.

The reports I've read and listened to concerning ETs is that many times it is not known for sure whether or not they are wearing a skin-tight outfit, or whether they are nude without having any discernible genitalia. Maybe they are sex-less beings?

They didn't have such amazing special effects 50 or 60 years ago. Then disbelievers would say the film is made to look old. But then there's also the very coordinated eye, head, shoulder and arm movements. The neck size/ shape is oddly perfect for the head (as is the collared attire).

Also, the standing position is clearly a slight lean with more weight on one leg like some people. Fingers move. Eye lids move. His (or her) attention is naturally directional and focused. It's classic footage. If you're not familiar, look up Roswell 1947. But this event could be from the many visits soon thereafter.

Disbelief of course indicates how some people absolutely cannot accept the truth even if it stared them straight in the eye.

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This article below is what I had previously read about that great video you posted. So give it a read and tell me what you think? If it's special effects, then I think it's a fantastic job of it. Oh, and I never listen to the "obvious CGI" screamers about what I consider to be convincing footage of ufos, but I've been fooled before, so...
www.presidentialufo.com...

Originally posted by trysts
This article below is what I had previously read about that great video you posted. So give it a read and tell me what you think? If it's special effects, then I think it's a fantastic job of it. Oh, and I never listen to the "obvious CGI" screamers about what I consider to be convincing footage of ufos, but I've been fooled before, so...

www.presidentialufo.com...

I've read it, and they were all in disbelief, which is expected. Nobody can prove it's an outright hoax though. The strongest challenge was the boast by the CGI expert claiming to be able to reproduce an equal footage within 2 weeks, maybe even in 2 days. He even quoted his price for doing it. So why don't somebody just pay him his measly $1200 fee and see the difference? Heck, costs of up to $10k or more is trivial if they can PROVE by duplication that it's easily hoax-able.

But instead they say,

this alien has too much detail to have been filmed on a cine camera in the 1940s to 1960s timeframe! Look at the veins in the forehead, and the tendons in the neck – there’s no way a camera of that era would have picked out that level of detail in that lighting. The ‘alien’ is a CGI model, with the footage ‘distressed’ to make it look authentic...

And I would say, no, the focus was just good.

Somebody was just holding it until the time was right for disclosure, and unfortunately we have today this CGI (computer generated imagery) technology to *almost* reproduce it. So CGI becomes the more plausible theory for disbelievers.

Maybe it was done by one of the top talents at Dreamworks or Pixar?! In their spare time?
Errr... no.

reply to post by FormerSkeptic


It's really neat footage, but what I find suspicious is the blinking eyes. I've never read anyone say their eyes blink, and the blinking eyes look a lot like the blinking eyes of the alien in "Close encounters of the third kind". I'm not convinced that I'm watching a real alien, but that's me.

I should add that I don't rule out the chance that it is actual footage of a real alien, it's just that I personally need more information. Afterall, I watched the entire world convinced of WMDs in Iraq simply because everyone deferred to authority on the matter, even though it was a complete hoax. So I totally understand your position not to defer to authority without someone producing footage with the type of realism we see in the video. As I look at it over and over again, it's just amazing that there isn't a movie alien as good as this alien? But then I watch the video of the golden eagle picking up the boy in the park recently, and I thought that was real, until I found out it was made by students for a project in school. So, who knows?

Originally posted by trysts
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It's really neat footage, but what I find suspicious is the blinking eyes. I've never read anyone say their eyes blink, and the blinking eyes look a lot like the blinking eyes of the alien in "Close encounters of the third kind". I'm not convinced that I'm watching a real alien, but that's me.

That's an interesting observation. On the other hand, the detailed eyelid movements seem near impossible to animate, so it again supports authenticity. And there are many other "species" to explain the variations in eye appearance. Heck, the entire shape of head is different in many other reports.

I think this footage shows the "species" that's most friendly and helpful. I believe they're the ones with direct ties to our government (or secret groups). Full disclosure will be shocking to many people, no doubt.

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I added to my post above, FormerSkeptic. But I also want to add that I am convinced of the UFO phenomenon already, so I'm not a big disclosure person. Just like Allen Hynek said, the only scientists who aren't convinced of the reality of the phenomenon just haven't looked into it like a person of reason should. I don't trust the U.S. government to disclose anything about it in my lifetime, but it's being disclosed by the phenomenon itself, everyday, to people anyway, whether or not this government likes it or not.

Originally posted by trysts
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I added to my post above, FormerSkeptic. But I also want to add that I am convinced of the UFO phenomenon already, so I'm not a big disclosure person. Just like Allen Hynek said, the only scientists who aren't convinced of the reality of the phenomenon just haven't looked into it like a person of reason should. I don't trust the U.S. government to disclose anything about it in my lifetime, but it's being disclosed by the phenomenon itself, everyday, to people anyway, whether or not this government likes it or not.

I also don't believe disclosure will happen — at least not in my lifetime — so I should've said "full disclosure *would* shock." Stanton Friedman said it best — that there's still a practical need for national defense. A lot of the extraterrestrial-related content is directly tied to military capabilities *and* there's the chaos effect for the world's population of sheeple.