US companies operating in China ..the list may asound you.

Even the most naive of us , would know the products we buy that say Made IN China are in reality mainly USA ,British, German, French,Australian companies who have sacked thousands of their own kind to make profit in China...via exploitation of cheap labour.

www.jiesworld.com... , people who have no rights to strike or complain.
This link however gives some compilation.

In one swoop , the greedy have bypassed just wage and safety laws that took decades of struggle by working westerners to achieve, and just simply employ mass by the millions slaves.
The biggest disgrace in history.

It's pretty much every big recognizable brand...How sad.
At least I know a few on that list that probably don't send all/vast majority of work over there. For example, Tyson Foods seems to have factories all over the freaking place here in America. I wonder what they even use Chinese labor for?

Corporations are global. Only knuckleheads believe they are national entities.

This is why import taxes need to be raised on these companies. But you will have people that will say it's the companies right to move to make more profit and it is but if it's made overseas then it should be taxed as such. The free trade agreement killed this country. And to make matters worst these companies pay next to nothing in taxes thanks to the politicians they have bought.

Yes, we send labor to China and this is what we get back

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I'm not one bit surprised by that list. But i like to look at things positively. So therefore there is over a billion people in china and they need jobs too. America is passed that stage now and forgive me if i sound harsh. But perhaps its time to stop being upset over this and "look at the glass as half full instead of half empty".

That's what happens in a free market economy , companies are always looking to save a buck ; and why shouldn't they ? Many working folk own bits of these companies . ( if they're smart )

When the unions get to greedy and start driving the company into the ground why should the company turn their backs on all the people who invested directly in them or have 401 ks and just let it happen ?

We will lose a lot of jobs , but I'm certain things will even out , they always do . But in all fairness to the worry this time we might have to wait for a change in the white house . Trying to control business and society were what socialism and fascism were about and neither one of those worked well .

What were to happen if China stopped making/export all of this for these companies?

It's all a matter of perspective. You say their labor is cheap while I say our labor is expensive.

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...the greedy have bypassed just wage and safety laws that took decades of struggle by working westerners to achieve...

So true...the same companies that smile and make commercials about their work ethics and how green they are and blah blah blah, are the same companies that use slave labor for ridiculous low wages and no safety programs in place...all two-faced bastards...

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There is another labour market with a 2.3 million workforce that gets paid 23 cents an hour with no unions or rights where local authorities have agreed to provide quotas to fullfill workforce demands for corporate slave labour.

THE US PRISON SYSTEM.

Consumers demand ever cheaper products. This is what you get.
It's happening everywhere, not just in the US.

Along with all the forces of supply and demand, the Chinese will soon out-price themselves, then all the factories will move to another part of the world.

This has been happening for millennia, and will continue.

On the bright side, the process develops 3rd world countries, and, ultimately gives workers more rights, as unions are formed, etc.

I find it more revealing to see who is not on the list, what no Microsoft? Could be something to do with intellectual property, rather than physical goods.

Between corrupt labor unions, forced unionization, over bearing regulations, taxes upon taxes upon even more taxes, etc, etc... Yeah... if I were a business owner I would move my company overseas too.

Maybe some of the provisions passed in the recent "Fiscal Cliff" legislation will give you some insight:

$9B Off-shore financing loophole for banks – Sec. 322 is an “Extension of the Active Financing Exception to Subpart F.” Very few tax loopholes have a trade association, but this one does. This strangely worded provision basically allows American corporations such as banks and manufactures to engage in certain lending practices and not pay taxes on income earned from it. According to this Washington Post piece, supporters of the bill include GE, Caterpillar, and JP Morgan. Steve Elmendorf, super-lobbyist, has been paid $80,000 in 2012 alone to lobby on the “Active Financing Working Group.”

Tax credits for foreign subsidiaries – Sec. 323 is an extension of the “Look-through treatment of payments between related CFCs under foreign personal holding company income rules.” This gibberish sounding provision cost $1.5 billion from 2010 and 2011, and the US Chamber loves it. It’s a provision that allows US multinationals to not pay taxes on income earned by companies they own abroad.

Source: Eight corporate subsidies included in 2013 Fiscal Cliff bill

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This is not surprising but you must take into account that most of these companies sell their products globally and it would only make sense to have manufacturing over there to save on shipping costs. Many of these companies have American plants as well. P&G (cincinnati ohio) manufactures many on that list. Either way the ship has sailed long ago on fixing this problem.

Basically all you can do is bend over and take it at this point and remember to smile while you take it!

The List is misleading to say the least, not that i am a proponent of US jobs being shipped to China.

Many companies listed are not US companies.
ex: Yamaha - Japan
Volkswagen - Germany
Toyota - Japan
Sony - Japan
Samsung - Korea
Ralph Loren (not even spelled correctly) - UK
Mitsubishi Motors - Japan
LG Electronics - Korea
Honda - Japan
Hitachi - Japan
Gucci - Italy
Armani - Italy
Adidas -Germany

All this from a quick scan of the "offenders"

Originally posted by OrionsWitness
Even the most naive of us , would know the products we buy that say Made IN China are in reality mainly USA ,British, German, French,Australian companies who have sacked thousands of their own kind to make profit in China...via exploitation of cheap labour.

www.jiesworld.com... , people who have no rights to strike or complain.
This link however gives some compilation.

In one swoop , the greedy have bypassed just wage and safety laws that took decades of struggle by working westerners to achieve, and just simply employ mass by the millions slaves.
The biggest disgrace in history.

edit on 2-1-2013 by OrionsWitness because: line spacing

The biggest disgrace in History? Obviously you jest. It is what some would call smart business practices. If you can make the same product for much much cheaper you would be really naive not to consider it and perhaps follow through with it. It may be a disgrace depending on your point of view however to claim it is the worst disgrace in history is just silly. Not only it is not true it is hyperbole. It is no ones fault that American workers have priced themselves out of the market. Chinese workers do not demand 12 dollars a hour or show up to work stoned and or drunk or both. As one example.. I saw if the Iphone was made in the United States it would cost about 4 thousand dollars per unit to the customer. I do believe that the mass exodus of American Businesses are a direct result of Economic market forces.

also...i think they are wrong about Trader Joes...a few years back when the whole Whole Foods stink was going about..Trader Joes changed their policy and now doesn't do any business with China. Customers had concerns about the tainted foods coming from China and so TJoes decided it was to cut all ties with any product coming out of China.

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A free market economy? In the US? Then why do we have billions of dollars changing hands annually across the black market? Your "free market" is highly regulated(manipulated.)