If you want to ban guns then I propose we ban automobiles.

Guns are designed to kill.

Cars are designed to transport people.

There's a massive difference.

You do not NEED guns. Ever. Full stop.

Your country is the very essence of what is wrong in the world.

I hope I get banned as this site is just full of gun toting American religious bigots or 13 year old missinformed losers.

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Ever? Care to move to a ranch in Texas on the Mexican border when you could look out your window with binoculars and look across the border and see a man with an AK47 and binoculars looking back....

reply to post by marbles87


You live in a fucjed up country then.

reply to post by NeoSocialist


Riddle me this.. Just because a car wasn't meant to kill people and it ends up killing millions it's ok because it wasn't specifically built to kill people? Make sense? But the missle is the devil even if it sits in a silo and is never fired taking no lives.

reply to post by NeoSocialist


No the neighbor is jacked up. Their problems come to us not the other way around.

reply to post by marbles87


So it's better to have armed guards outside schools and kids with bulletproof vests rather than looking at the real issue?

You are just as dangerous (perhaps even more) than the "terrorists" you lot get very nervous about.

different world,

Come to live in Europe for a few months. It might change your outlook.

Originally posted by nerbot
Cars don't kill people, people do.

what about all the court cases Toyota is fighting for their runaway cars

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reply to post by NeoSocialist


Terrorist is a made up word by the American government to put a face on a faceless enemy and to skew the worlds view of middle eastern people's to get the moral backing for an invasion into countries to over throw the current governments to lay ground work for a later agenda so.... No I don't fear terrorists. However I do fear heavily armed and well trained (by ex American soldiers) Mexican drug cartels who run an entire country and are the judge, jury and executioner and just so happen to be able to WALK onto American soil and there IS NOT a single military personnel guarding said border and a handful of poorly funded and armed border agents.

Now when you guys have our guns taken and the cartels see it as a free pass into America without Americans firing back what do we do? Send the military to the border to have the cartels go into gorilla tactics causing collateral damage to border states and kill Americans. You know what those cartels are waiting for.... OUR GUNS TO BE TAKEN AWAY!

reply to post by marbles87


And most of those deaths are ACCIDENTS.

Cars are designed for transportation, not to be killed, unlike guns, whose sole purpose is to kill.

Now if you want to take in the numbers of people killed in war, by guns, most likely guns have killed more than cars.

Also, people get into cars knowing they can be killed. it has become are part of the human ecosystem. They CHOOSE to get into cars, unlike people who were killed by guns and never had a choice.

Also, once the driverless automobile comes out, those deaths will be reduced, drastically.

In the US at least, you don't need a license to own a car. Nor do you need to register it, insure it, or be trained
in its use. To own a car, all you need is a car.

License, registration, insurance, inspection, and training are only a requirement to operate a car on publicly owned or operated roadway laned for traffic. If you wanted to collect Ford mustangs, let's say, and all you did was park them in the garage, and occasionally drive around the back yard, no other legal requirements exist.

Just saying, the whole cars-v-guns anology dosent work...




Nor dose my spell check....

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I have a better idea BAN PEOPLE.

"Experts Baffled over the alarming increase in "Run-by stonings"

"Drunk cyclist mows down 3 rose bushes"

"Secret Service Agents wrestled the slingshot from the mans hands. It was also discovered that the man had 3 pounds of pebbles strapped under his bicycle seat."

reply to post by marbles87

If you're really concerned about car / road safety in the U.S. you could take a look around to see if there is any other place on this planet that does a better job at the task at hand.
Maybe you would see how driver's licenses and safety regulations are attributed and enforced in Germany.
Maybe you could learn something to improve your situation.
But I doubt this is going to happen, because all this requires pragmatism... and pragmatism is hard to find in U.S. politics nowadays.

This argument in all its forms is idiotic. Guns have one real purpose, either to kill, or harm. The sole purpose of cars is transportation. Guns aren't being banned because they can be misused, they are being banned because they are being used for their real purpose, which is to kill.

I think we must ban subway trains after the sensleless murders occuring in the subway stations. Murders committed by the mentally insane oh wait let's shutdown the subway systems to prevent this from occuring again. The outrage.

Originally posted by marbles87
Here me out.

I'm sorry, this is where i ironically stopped reading.

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Again the ignorant will ignore the bigger picture.

My stab was that if people are SO DAMN CONCERNED WITH PEOPLE DYING IN THE WORLD/COUNTRY WHY ARE WE ONLY FOCUSING ON AN ISSUE THAT IS A MINORITY TO THE BIGGER PICTURE.

If you really cared about lives you would agree that maybe our transportation system should be revised to save MILLIONS of lives. You don't need a car if we can GREATLY reduce deaths by autos and still have a successful transportation system in America. All that money you pay for registration could be redirected to pay bus drivers and cab drivers.

This is not a gun vs car thread it's a 1 gun death > 500 auto deaths.

And I will go as far as to say. Automobiles have killed and injured more people than all wars combined.
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by marbles87
Here me out.

If we need someone to bring a gun we can call the police.
If we need a ride somewhere we can call a cab.
So In that retrospect we can ban cars because they are unnecessary and dangerous in the hands of the ignorant.
So what we will do is ban cars and put cabbies on the payroll the same we do for cops and now nobody has to worry about a teen driving their jeep through their living room because the the driver was stupid.

Now here is the catch. What happens when I cut my arm and need to go to the hospital and I have 5 minutes to live. If I had a car I could drive to the hospital and be saved but instead I will call a cabbie/ambulance and it will take to long and I will die. Same goes for Guns. If someone breaks in I have to call the cops and give the robbers xx minutes before the gun shows up and I was killed.

Some may say well it would be rare that I cut my arm and need the car but let's say I work on a farm where my arm is in constant danger. Because your views or need of a car does not agree with mine I must now suffer at the hands of someone with no direct knowledge on why I may or may not need a car.

So if guns are banned I'm going after autos.

Guns are only meant for killing.

Cars are to get from point A to point B. They were not made specifically for killing.

Guns serve no other purpose other then death. Cars serve a purpose of getting us around easier and farther in a shorter amount of time then walking.

Your argument is a FAIL. Guns are bad, guns are death. Guns need to go.

By your argument we should also ban Lightening. I mean that doesn't even make sense at all. Comparing apples to Planetoids doesn't good logic make.

Originally posted by marbles87
reply to post by NeoSocialist

 

Ever? Care to move to a ranch in Texas on the Mexican border when you could look out your window with binoculars and look across the border and see a man with an AK47 and binoculars looking back....

Instead of staring at him with a gun, stare at him with a smile. Might make him put his gun down and stop worrying.

You Americans are so damned aggressive then wonder why everyone takes up arms when they are around you. I mean you guys do invade everything you see and like? You also invade anything you see and dislike.

So you do need guns for the mere fact your a bunch of bullies in this world. You refuse to put your arms down and make everyone else have to get more arms to defend themselves. Point and Fact: Nuclear Arms.

So please, don't try and sell me the "we need to defend our land" BS. For 3 decades or more the USA has intimidated most countries to doing what they want and your violent ways and attitudes have turned the world into a violent nightmare using your media, foreign policy and music.

Fact is the world can easily say 50% of the bad influences out there are American.

So before you go defending your ways, you have to ask yourself: Since the USA has been central on the world stage, what good has come from it? How has the world gotten better?

Now you can be biased and defend your country till your last breathe, or realize the truth. The world is not a better place since WW2, it's back to the way it was just before WW2 as a matter of fact except now our weapons are far more destructive...well not our...just the USA's and it's allies. Sheesh the US even supplies arms to it's enemies, supports terrorism in countries it wants leaders ousted out of. The dirty laundry list goes on and on.

So save your "holier then thou" constitution story about how you need guns to yourself, the rest of the world don't buy that BS.