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1991 Book Predicts School Shootings By Drugged Individuals In Order To Disarm Public

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posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by GrandStrategy
 


James Holmes admitted to being brainwashed by his psychiatrists and acted as if he was under the effects of a drug, I can't recall the name of, but it comes from Colombia, and is called the devil's breath. Adam Lanza was on Fanapt, which can produce the same memory loss, and susceptibility to persuasion as the drug listed above.


James Holmes claims to have been brainwashed, he didn't "admit" to being brainwashed. If I made a thread saying I'm God you wouldn't say I've "admitted" to being God, you'd say that I'm claiming it.

I don't think it's unusual for someone mentally ill to be paranoid enough to believe their psychiatrist is out to get them and to appear to be in a drug like state

the biggest problem I have with your suggestion is that if it were true it's a self defeating claim or 'admission'. James Holmes was brainwashed, but aware of the fact he was brainwashed? Well, he wasn't brainwashed very well was he! If the government and CIA were brainwashing people i'd expect they could do a better job, you know, keep them brainwashed, or at least erase their memories so they don't remember being brainwashed!

As for Lanza... i don't see as suspicious that a psychopath who shoots up schools was on anti-psychotic medicine. I expect insane people to be on medication, that's part and parcel of being insane, somebody medicates you - what would be really crazy was if he wasn't on something!



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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It's in chapter 12, The Secret Government, page 225. I took a pic, but I don't know how to upload it from my tablet.
Also, this same topic is posted on glp, and other sites. This one helped me jump right to the page: watchermeetup.50.forumer.com/book-the-secret-government-school-shootings-drugs-guns-t1258048.html
edit on 30-12-2012 by Britster1821 because: added additional source



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by MrSpad
So we have been tricked into to easing the gun laws for the last 20 something years just so we might see some of them come back? Also since when is a gun ban even being considered? Worst we will see is the assault weapon ban we had from 94 to 04 come back. Crazy people do crazy things. They always have and the always will. Trying to make it into a conspirecy just comes off as trying to avoid the real problems we have in this country.



lol,

Ohhhh Jesus Tapdancing CHRIST you are going to eat your words soon.
You really just put your ass out there for everyone to see.

It still amazes me how there are STILL people, even to this day, who have NO CLUE as to what is really going on here and what the agenda really is. It is hard to come to terms with the idea that this willful ignorance might actually be the majority in our country.

It makes me wonder what the truely hardcore willfully ignorant will say WHEN our guns are rounded up.
Will they back peddle, lie, deny, justify, counter accuse?
What will they say then?

If there are still people out there who TRUELY don't see what is going on here,as clearly there are, then it can only be because you don't WANT to see. And who can blame them?

I don't WANT to see this # either but, unfortunately, I have this nasty addiction which I can't live without and it keeps me searching for it day and night.

It is a filthy little habit which I can't seem to kick.
It is the monkey on my back. I like it, and I like it in BIG doses even though I know that the more of it I take, the sicker it will make me.
It keeps me up all night sometiems.
No matter how much of it I get, I never seem to build up any sort of tolorance for it either.

Maybe you're better off.

That "Truth" is a sonofabitch and once you get started, you may never be right again.
I still can't seem to get enough of it.
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why don't you tell us how you really feel screwed?

the outcome of the sandy hook hoax was predicted long in advance.

guns prices and sales increased dramatically.

those in the know benefitted.

as always.


[size=10] suckers!



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by TheMindWar
But people still wont believe its true, most are in denial.


Believe what is true? Paranoid delusional conspiracy theories unsubstantiated by any known facts?

Denial of what? That just because you have a fantasy doesn't mean it' s reality?

The only denial I see is denial by CTers that their obvious theories can possibly be wrong.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by Britster1821
It's in chapter 12, The Secret Government, page 225. I took a pic, but I don't know how to upload it from my tablet.
Also, this same topic is posted on glp, and other sites. This one helped me jump right to the page: watchermeetup.50.forumer.com/book-the-secret-government-school-shootings-drugs-guns-t1258048.html
edit on 30-12-2012 by Britster1821 because: added additional source


watchermeetup.50.forumer.com...




posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:30 AM
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by MrSpad
So we have been tricked into to easing the gun laws for the last 20 something years just so we might see some of them come back? Also since when is a gun ban even being considered? Worst we will see is the assault weapon ban we had from 94 to 04 come back. Crazy people do crazy things. They always have and the always will. Trying to make it into a conspirecy just comes off as trying to avoid the real problems we have in this country.





The biggest question is do we trust the people taking our guns away? Have TPTB grown past the point were they want to limit freedoms especially speech?



Looking back into history shows many people giving up the right to guns and then becoming victims. Have TPTB grown past doing crap like this again?


Can TPTB be trusted with this power again? Or will history repeat itself again?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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Thank you

I've been on this site for a few years now, but I don't do much on here. I'll learn to embed one day...

I don't have much else to add to this conversation, without diverting it to other topics I'm revisiting in that book.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:44 AM
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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Bill Cooper. He was well aware of the government's agenda and they were well aware of him.

Its widely said, though somewhat difficult to substantiate that Rush Limbaugh read from a Clinton White House memo which named William Cooper as "the most dangerous radio host in America".

In June of 2001, he told us that a false flag attack was coming and that Osama Bin Laden was going to be the scapegoat.

I guess he got a little too close to the truth. On November 5, 2001, Sheriff's deputies killed him at his home.

The establishment killed William Cooper and gave us Alex Jones...




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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:29 AM
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The Great American Round Up....to cull the herd.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:43 AM
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there are provisions already on the books which our elected renew when ever necessary. There is this.


Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
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Agenda 21 is the core spirit for policy reform and policy development in all western nations. It is a Globalist agenda, and overtly so.

It has MANY companion documents and pacts penned and signed even before this policy took on the name of "Agenda 21". That is no secret either. The smoking gun as it were is not written in bold ink in plain words for us to see and say "hey that's not legal". It is also very clear without explicit language.

We have seen this push for a disarmed population in many countries and always as per UN recommendations.
Agenda 21 has a myriad of sub entities and organizations that operate locally. Its design is not centralized so it can not be shot down by any one issue it causes.

In the US there exists already the means for what the design of a world army and security force require.

Since it is a little drawn out explaining the US version of its implementation, here is a little resource for you.
www.sweetliberty.org...
PL87-297 Arms Control and Disarmament Act /State Department Publication No.7277

Besides that look to the book "The report from Iron mountain". It was not originaly meant to be made public. It was written around that same era as when these provisions were thought up and see its section on military service and the need for a form of universal peace corps.

On November 26, 1976, the report was reviewed in the book section of The Washington Post by Herschel McLandress,the pen name for Harvard professor John Kenneth Galbraith. Galbraith wrote that he knew firsthand of the report's authenticity because he had been invited to participate in its creation; that although he was unable to be part of the official group, he was consulted from time to time and had been asked to keep the project secret; and that while he doubted the wisdom of letting the public know about the report, he agreed totally with its conclusions.

He wrote: "As I would put my personal reputation behind the authenticity of this document,


www.goodnewsaboutgod.com...




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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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As you can see kids, the "lone nut excuse" works every time.

Don't question anything. It's always a crazy lunatic.

Timothy McVeigh, Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, Holmes and Lanza are all "crazy."

This is a classic excuse.

By the way, have you forgot what forum you are participating in?

It's our job to question everything, no matter what the act.



edit on Mon Dec 31 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: removed in error, sorry



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Britster1821
It's in chapter 12, The Secret Government, page 225. I took a pic, but I don't know how to upload it from my tablet.
Also, this same topic is posted on glp, and other sites. This one helped me jump right to the page: watchermeetup.50.forumer.com/book-the-secret-government-school-shootings-drugs-guns-t1258048.html
edit on 30-12-2012 by Britster1821 because: added additional source



Thank you.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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What do you think about Cooper being part of the plan? He dosent claim to be a prophet.

What I mean is that without a guy like cooper, most may not see these things but random and miss everything. And what would be the effect and goal of letting folks know there was a plan....by way of some lose cannon.


edit on 31-12-2012 by Logarock because: the eggs were crying out to be turned.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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It isnt the government whom wants guns off the streets, its concerned everyday people. Those whom make money with the legal gun trade do not want it to stop. They can afford security and ivy league schools with armed guards for their children. They do not care how many Americans die. Somebody dying in a shooting in a middle class school is to them as it is to us hearing about somebody dying in africa. Tragic but too far removed to be seriously sad about it.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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This cannot be about controlling guns. They cannot ever take away the second ammendment without a 2/3 majority of states agreeing to it. Even if that happened, theyd still have to get beyond the Dick act of 1902, which cannot ever be undone...says so in the act. Then, lets say tptb somehow get beyond that...they would then have to work on tossing the preamble of the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta to remove guns. If they somehow manage all the above, tptb would then have to get past the Supreme Court which has set so many precedents by siding WITH the second ammendment that thats a statistical impossibility that there would be a majority vote against.

Lets say Obama somehow gets beyond all those impossible hurdles mentioned above...they would still not have the right to confiscate anything or force you to grandfather anything without somehow getting past the fourth ammendment.

Today, a confiscation would go something like this," Mr Master, we see you have 5 Armalite weapons purchases in the last ten years. We need those weapons sir, NOW!"

My reply would go something like," I sold those guns on armslist two years ago in a personal transaction. I have no receipt, and no proof, but if you dont remove yourselves from my property, I will have you removed by the State Police. Have a super day!"

Without a warrant, they cant search. No judge would ever issue warrants to search all suspecting gun owners' property today. It would violate your 4th ammendment to be safe from illegal search and seizure of weapons as any law which violates the constitution is non-binding on the people.

The government has forced itself into a corner on this issue. Granted, they want guns gone, and this is a golden opportunity, but in order for it to work, they must tip their hand because IF grandfathering starts, so does the war in my opinion.

So, if this Bill passes and knocks begin, someone somewhere will fire the shot heard around the world. If it doesnt, then we win the battle and this gun grabbing nonsense should end. Either way, I feel alot will be learned about this so called NWO when the dust settles on this issue.

All is only my opinion, and doesnt mean I want to debate it or argue the finer points as I have no proof to back them. Common sense just says they will force some regulation of the fourth ammendment as a lesser of two evils. Probably something to do with mental health evals for gun purchasers...for the safety of the kids.

Strangely, last night, Obama sighned the Warrantless Wiretap Bill...behind closed doors, and noone anywhere has read the entire thing, just like healthcare. Perhaps theres something in that Bill we cannot see until they pass Feinsteins malarky, who knows.



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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Booming gun sales aren't an indication of a population wishing for the abolishment of civilian arms.
I'm bracing myself dreadingly for news of yet another terrible shooting. Those will not stop happening until the majority of the public want guns removed completely. Or so I theorize.



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