Stars All moving accross sky extremely fast. implications amazing...

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This happened to me once thought i was seeing a huge fleet of UFO`s till i noticed the clouds making the optical illusion , its a very cool effect .

As for the op if they used landmarks as reference points then

Alcohol?

I mean, think man, the earth is spinning. Do you realize what you are suggesting?

Nah, probably not!

Any chance that you guys were around something, I.e. a fire, propane BBQ.....anything that could have cause a light headed dizziness upon standing? Just an idea.

Oh dear, where to start... First, OP... I read your first and following messages carefully to make sure I didn't miss anything and I do have a major question you didn't address. What range of the sky compared to a flat, open desert expanse, for instance, could you actually see? You say all stars moved together at once...how total is that for the sky from that location? I'm not laughing one bit. I'm certainly not among those suggesting hallucination, intoxication or just going bonkers for bit.

Gotta think outside the box occasionally. I can't believe.. 5 pages.. and no one considered what was witnessed was deliberate? I just want to confirm what range/angle of view of the whole horizon to horizon sky the OP could see before expanding on my thoughts .... I swear it feels more like Science.com than ATS sometimes .. lol Where's the conspiratorial spirit?

So, this happened Thursday night around 11pm? I'm also in Adelaide and whenever igo outside for a smoke I look at the stars. I don't recall seeing this happen though, how long did it take and which area of Adelaide? I'm near the airport.

Everyone keeps on saying "Fast moving stars are beautiful" Is there a youtube video of this?

The stars are moving fast because time is moving fast. I swear sometimes I wonder where does the time go?

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The manner in which GeardUp posted his sighting I also think raises some interesting information.

GeardUp admited he has lurked on these forums for a long time before he joined, and has seen "plenty" of UFO sightings. Of many years reading UFO cases, it is clear most people are lucky to experience just one sighting in a lifetime. Those claiming to regularly spot UFOs come across as people who want to see things that really aren't there.

I would also like to know why GeardUp believes his sighting has "amazing implications" and that more of these "events" will occur this year.

Hello, my family saw exactly what you saw. We were outside around 9:00 pm eastern USA time on Thursday night. At first, I thought I was seeing hundreds of airplanes all flying in the same direction. Then we realized it was actually the stars. The constellations actually moved across the sky. The big dipper moved over my home twice. It was crazy..... We had several people witness this with us. I honestly did not seem real but we know That we saw what we saw. I have no explanation for this and NASA website has no mention of this.

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If I may ask... was it ALL the stars like the OP reported seeing? The whole nighttime star field appearing to shift? ...and how long from start to finish would you estimate anything unusual was happening?

We witnessed this for aprox. 30 minutes. I went into my house once we realized that it was ALL of the stars moving. I turned on the TV to CNN to see if there was anything on the news about this. We googled stars moving, moon moving etc. That's how we found the other post regarding this. I have never in my life seen anything like this. However, we are confident That all of the stars were moving at the same time and in the same direction. We used our house as a marker and they were moving. I know this seems impossible and I am thankful that we had several people witness this with us. Otherwise, it's completely unbelievable. I have no explanation.

Originally posted by Mygeeda
We witnessed this for aprox. 30 minutes. I went into my house once we realized that it was ALL of the stars moving. I turned on the TV to CNN to see if there was anything on the news about this. We googled stars moving, moon moving etc. That's how we found the other post regarding this. I have never in my life seen anything like this. However, we are confident That all of the stars were moving at the same time and in the same direction. We used our house as a marker and they were moving. I know this seems impossible and I am thankful that we had several people witness this with us. Otherwise, it's completely unbelievable. I have no explanation.

So, are you saying the stars stopped this movement after 30 minutes, or you just stopped watching after 30 minutes?

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Hmmm.. The time frame isn't meshing with my theory very well. 30 minutes? What was the star field appearing to do for such a long period? I mean, you'd have the illusion of the entire sky...360 degrees of it..lol.. rotating multiple times across over that period. Was the star field moving in one direction the entire time?

(I'd gotten the impression of a long period from the OP too... Hmm.. Even the theory I'm chasing down to explain this makes that one tough...altho.. Hmm..)

One other question... Did you move any real distance from your house (up the street a block even) during this? Call anyone else in the area...a fair physical distance from your point of observation..to confirm they saw it too?

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The Earth is spinning faster, we are moving through a cosmic cloud, or you had 2 huge beers.

Interesting idea of stars moving "faster"?

Everything we observe is through our point of view. The Earth's orbit and spin determine how things move up in the sky. This would be the logic explanation of what you see happening to the movement of stars.

No, we were only observing from our driveway. I called my next-door neighbor friend and he and his family observed what we saw. I have not asked any others neighbors because it would sound to crazy....
Perhaps, I should mention that we don't drink and are a very normal family.

You know, there have been posts about Earth / sky noises again this week and also tremors. We have to remain open minded about how our earth works, how our science isn't guaranteed to be 100% correct and open unto the fact that not everyone who posts on ATS is full of b/s, pics or not.

Maybe this is something we haven't experienced before? Maybe it's something that the Mayans noticed and recorded? Maybe not... But give the op a break and go look outside for yourselves ( armed with good quality cameras where possible ) you never know....

Originally posted by Whatsitallabout
You know, there have been posts about Earth / sky noises again this week and also tremors. We have to remain open minded about how our earth works, how our science isn't guaranteed to be 100% correct and open unto the fact that not everyone who posts on ATS is full of b/s, pics or not.

Maybe this is something we haven't experienced before? Maybe it's something that the Mayans noticed and recorded? Maybe not... But give the op a break and go look outside for yourselves ( armed with good quality cameras where possible ) you never know....

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Well, we can all certainly be open-minded but, simple physics and plain ol' logic will tell you that there are only a couple of reasons why stars would actually speed across the sky.

1. It was an illusion caused by moving clouds.
2. The earth spun fast on its axis. This of course, would mean tsunami like waves and seismic instability. GPS systems would noticeably stop working for a few minutes, at least.
3. Several stars and their planetary systems flung out of orbit at millions of miles an hour and then suddenly went back to normal.

Now, without being an expert, which do you think is the most plausible reason/explanation?

I hear what you're saying and don't propose any alternatives but I think it'd be wrong to think we know all there is to know about space / time ... That's all

Well, I've got as much of a theory as I'll ever have without compartmentalized clearances I'll never see in this lifetime.

The thing that kinda surprises me at ATS of all places ....is how long people have been talking about Blue Beam and other projects rumored or whispered with the singular focus of generating illusions across the sky that are 100% believable and emotionally compelling to the population viewing it. I don't know how it would be done. Then again, you could fill libraries with what I DO NOT understand the workings of. I once saw an Elephant vanish from a stage... the damn thing just went Poof. Now we all KNOW elephants don't really just dematerialize and illusion was all I saw. It doesn't make any difference to the mind though, does it? If the illusion is high enough quality, the mind will accept it as really occurring. Whole courses in psychology and military applications of it are taught on this subject.


Now last night I had to ask myself.... Why?? Prior to suggesting the WHOLE SKY is given the illusion of motion, it's important to have a reason that would make the mind boggling cost of making the technology for this worthwhile. I think anyone who has been to Disney has seen aspects of this on a small scale...but this? This would require war changing outcomes to justify the effort it would require. Right? Well .. Consider three things.

#1. The United States and other Western Powers in particular are almost ENTIRELY dependent upon GPS computer navigation. Celestial Navigation wasn't even being taught at Annapolis anymore, the last I'd heard that talked about. WHEN the Satellites fail as a network, problems come instantly to a large % of the world's military. Not ALL of them....but Western ones in particular.

#2. Anti-Satellite Weaponry has advanced with test shots from the major powers in recent years to prove to each other beyond question that each is fully capable of targeting and destroying anything they'd like to in Orbit. I.E. GPS Satellites....Which, for any MAJOR power facing the United States ...Or visa versa depending on whom, would be among the first priorities in the opening moments of actual war.

#3. IF Satellite GPS navigation fails for whatever reason...there IS a backup. A fail safe. THIS is what I spent time last night confirming...because without this, nothing else makes ANY sense for development effort on an illusion like this. That backup system is computer controlled star tracking/celestial navigation. I came across units for Aircraft in-flight and I came across development systems good to go soon touted as being near to as precise as GPS itself.


So.. Tell me... If you''re a major power...and getting your butt kicked by the U.S. as a matter of inevitable outcome isn't something you plan to just 'let happen' as so may would assume Russia or China would do.. (Or the US, again, developing systems to fight a *REAL* enemy for a change) What do you do? You NEGATE the technology advantage as close to the opening shot as possible. When GPS goes down.... Errr... well.. can't do a damn thing about those stars for the backup system..can we?

...Or...indeed...can we?

This would be the kind of strategic surprise in battle that books are written about and studied in war colleges for. We've also seen in our own nation and others...OBSCENE amounts of money 'vanishing' into the ether.. God knows where..and no one is flashing personal fortunes to account for it being graft.

It's worth at least considering....that the OP and others on this thread got a very quick look at something which should't exist as a capability ..and you'd think, was beyond human ability as a whole. ...but then, everything was impossible until someone thought it up, someone else solved the problems and then the last guy just up and did it.

Originally posted by Whatsitallabout
I hear what you're saying and don't propose any alternatives but I think it'd be wrong to think we know all there is to know about space / time ... That's all

Ok, I can accept that.

Let's assume some theoretical physics can be applied here. Let's assume for a moment that some one or some thing figured out a way to bend time/space (A la Einstein's theory) in an effort to travel a vast amount of distances in a short amount of time, causing the illusion of a whole portion of the night sky moving really fast....and this guy witnessed it. If that was the case, some of earth's telescopes would have detected the anomalous activity since there are always telescopes scanning the universe every day of the week. The gravitational "burp" would also be detected....something that powerful within our visible sky, would be powerful enough to cause a momentary tilt or movement within earth's orbit and axis. If we can see it, it would be way too close. We're talking the visible night sky...millions of lights years of space/distance. It would take an infinite amount of energy to do that. Enough that we would detect it. And believe you me, since the advent of nuclear weapons, we scan for large energy bursts. We do that to see if we can detect the detonation of nukes.

But let's take it a step further....let's assume that what he witnessed was a giant continent-sized mother ship with a clever cloaking device that reflected the night sky down to the puny humans below, and that is what caused him to see stars moving across the sky much too fast. Something that size would no doubt cause interference and throw off radar systems and satellite signals. There would be issues with wireless phone service and internet connectivity. TV channels would drop at least momentarily.

Anyway....nothing unusual was reported. Not even other witnesses seeing the stars moving across he sky fast.

Like I said, perhaps he did see something....but there's likely a very logical and mundane explanation for it.