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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Rezlooper
I believe its UV radiation heating us up
UV radiation doesn't heat us up. Infrared does.
Much of the energy from the Sun arrives on Earth in the form of infrared radiation. Sunlight at zenith provides an irradiance of just over 1 kilowatt per square meter at sea level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is visible light, and 32 watts is ultraviolet radiation.[2] The balance between absorbed and emitted infrared radiation has a critical effect on the Earth's climate.
UV radiation doesn't heat us up. Infrared does.
The harmful effects from exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation can be classified as acute or chronic. The acute effects of UV-A and UV-B exposure are both short-lived and reversible.
These effects include mainly sunburn (or erythema) and tanning (or pigment darkening). The chronic effects of UV exposure can be much more serious, even life threatening, and include premature aging of the skin, suppression of the immune system, damage to the eyes, and skin cancer.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by thorfourwinds
That's right, excessive UV radiation is harmful to life. That's pretty well known and it isn't what the OP was talking about.By his context (and his other thread which he references) it is clear that he believe(d) that an increase in UV levels would contribute to global warming.edit on 12/29/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
No. Because a decrease in ozone does not increase radiative forcing.
In essence, don't we have the same thing? Dangerous gases go up, radiation from the infrared doesn't get out and the earth heats up
The Earth's core is very, very far from the ice caps. It is very, very far from the Earth's crust where earthquakes, volcanoes, and yes, sinkholes originate. And of course, no explanation of how solar flares would heat the Earth's core much less any acknowledgement that the Sun has been quieter now than it has been in a long time.
earth's core heats up, ice caps melt, forces underground water pressure and wreaks havoc on earth...by way of increased earthquakes, volcanoes and sinkholes!
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Rezlooper
No. Because a decrease in ozone does not increase radiative forcing.
In essence, don't we have the same thing? Dangerous gases go up, radiation from the infrared doesn't get out and the earth heats up
The Earth's core is very, very far from the ice caps. It is very, very far from the Earth's crust where earthquakes, volcanoes, and yes, sinkholes originate. And of course, no explanation of how solar flares would heat the Earth's core much less any acknowledgement that the Sun has been quieter now than it has been in a long time.
earth's core heats up, ice caps melt, forces underground water pressure and wreaks havoc on earth...by way of increased earthquakes, volcanoes and sinkholes!
You know that concentrations of H2S high enough to explode would also render humans quite dead, right?
Hydrogen Sulphide:
Lower explosive limit: 4.3%
Lethal concentration: 0.08% (5 minutes)
VENICE - Overnight rains opened about a 20-square-foot sinkhole in the middle of Nassau Street in downtown Venice. The hole has become a bit of a curiosity for crowds of people downtown this morning, said Venice police Sgt. Joe Whitehead. The street has been blocked off near the W. Venice Avenue intersection as police wait for utility workers to fix the hole. Whitehead said the street will likely be blocked for a few hours, until utility crews can arrive and repair it. The hole is about two feet wide and eight to 10 feet long, Whitehead said. It is three to four feet deep and has exposed a gas line under the street.
A Harrisburg trash truck became caught this morning in a collapsed sink hole in the vicinity of 4th and Maclay streets, according to a Harrisburg media advisory. The truck was successfully removed at 3:30 p.m. today, the advisory states. The sink hole was apparently caused by soil erosion beneath the street surface resulting from a damaged water pipe connection, the release states. A boil water advisory was issued to impacted homes. The break could have resulted in an increased risk of microbial contamination to residents in the neighborhood. This is the second sink hole in the region in recent weeks. A sink hole closed the right lane of westbound Route 30 near Shoe House Road in Hellam Township last week until crews could repair it.
A second sinkhole on Fourth Street near Maclay Street in Harrisburg collapsed at around 11 last night, hours after a morning sinkhole trapped a garbage truck and led to a boil-water advisory, spokesman Robert Philbin said in a press release. The newer sinkhole resulted in the loss of water, gas and sewer services, so the city is suggesting people in 2102-2163 North Fourth Street evacuate. A temporary emergency shelter is open at Pine Street Presbyterian Church, 234 South St., provided by the American Red Cross.
Originally posted by Jusvistn
Has there given any thought to the excessive gas drilling and fracking? I just can't help but think that as they suck the pressurized gas out of the earth and replace with chemical mixed water that it has to be disrupting the balance of the earth in some way. Maybe it sounds far fetched, but seems that these sink holes have started happening more and more frequently once the big gas boom went crazy. There is some concern and speculation that the fracking is causing earthquakes, so maybe there is a correlation to the sink holes as well? I know that all of the official stories say that fracking doesn't cause earth quakes, but yet the gas company knocked on my door and asked if they could put a seismograph in my back yard. If no relation, why the monitoring?
Whether related to fracking or not, there are just too many things going on of late to dismiss these happenings as mere coincidence and awareness due to news traveling faster and to more ppl.
Earthquakes in odd areas,
Sink holes opening up all over the world,
wild weather, increased storm intensity,
dormant volcanos waking up and active volcanos that are starting to become more active,
bird die offs
fish die offs
animals - both wild and domestic acting strangely
ppl acting strangely (going crazy, babbling & incoherent thots, the whole zombie like reports)
strange light anomolies in the skies
strange earth/sky noises
You can't tell me that these are all not related to something! What, I'm not sure, but whether folks think watching the LA sinkhole is important or not to them, it is to me and should be to far more people including the TPTB.
Feel free to add to the list of crazy, it's early and I haven't had my quota of coffee yet to remember them all.
Saturday morning a breakfast was held at the Trinity Church of God on North Fourth Street. Not only did people get a hot meal, they could pick up cases of water and talk to representatives from the Red Cross about housing and other needs. Currently the Red Cross is helping over 15 families displaced because of the sinkhole. Read more at fox43.com...
It's going to be at least a week before the water is turned back on, and even longer — perhaps a month — before sewer service returns to the residents on North Fourth Street where the road collapsed from two sinkholes.
BATON ROUGE -- A Houston-based company has asked a state court in Baton Rouge to permanently block the Louisiana conservation commissioner's order for new exploratory wells and other steps meant to monitor the effects of a huge sinkhole in Ascension Parish. Texas Brine Co. LLC also challenges Commissioner James Welsh's declaration of an emergency, which let him order the steps without a hearing. The lawsuit was filed Dec. 28. It says Welsh ignored "more reasonable, scientifically sound and safer methods" for reaching his goals. Welsh ordered Texas Brine to start the first of two 6,000-foot-deep exploratory wells by Jan. 15. The lawsuit says those wells could increase the risk of danger to the public and environment. Read more here: www.sunherald.com...=cpy
for a rational explanation for 'some' of them.
"There have been many well documented occurrences of sinkholes forming beneath broken water mains, unlined storm-water culverts and leaking swimming pools."
Just as collapsing buildings and erupting volcanoes kicked into high gear in December, so too did the number of explosions and sinkholes, which are almost too numerous to track.
Massive sinkholes and other odd happenings pop up daily. Have you ever wondered why mainstream media avoids such topics? If you have heard of these events, it was probably not from mainstream media reports and, if so, it was certainly not given in-depth coverage, no mention of people killed falling into sinkholes, exploding manhole covers flying off hitting people or tipping cars, or sinkholes swallowing homes and miles of road.
SIGNAL MOUNTAIN, Tenn. (AP) — An old mineshaft on Signal Mountain has become an impediment to a few homeowners when their access road over it began collapsing. The Chattanooga Times Free Press (http://(link tracking not allowed)/XjMtRo ) reported a state contractor was scheduled to fill in the old shaft Tuesday. The homeowners became stranded over the weekend when the hole opened on a private road. Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation environmental specialist James Finley said the mine shaft is about 20 feet deep and the collapsed area is about 8 feet wide. Finley said the few inches of soil was too weak to drive a car over.
One of the most dangerous aspects of the sinkhole spreading are the nearby caves filled with Butane Gas stored by the US Government. The sinkhole is yards away from igniting an explosion of Hiroshima proportions. The surrounding water supplies have already been compromised as well as the forest showing visible destruction of all plant and animal life. This is something that has not been able to be contained.
Hunan Lianyuan now 20 locations "doline" thousands of villagers affected with water
International online news: January 12, 2013, Lianyuan City, Hunan Province volts Town of Hot Springs Village, villagers watch "doline" paddy fields formed by the collapse of the geological disasters. Within less than four months from September 2012 to January of this year, the volt Town of Hot Springs Village, Lianyuan City, Hunan Province, easy Ka collapse of the large area of geological disasters have occurred in the farmland collapse to form a "sinkhole" 20 places, the cracking of a building more than 20 households, collapse of many rivers. Destruction of wells, 5, affecting 500 acres of farmland irrigation, causing rivers due to ground subsidence, affecting nearly 4000 people's production and living water.
New York sidewalk sinkhole: Ground collapses under woman in Upper East Side
On Friday, Jan 11, 2013, in the Upper East Side of New York, a sidewalk sinkhole opened under a woman who was waiting for a bus. The 31-year-old Queens woman had been huddled up against the wall of Atomic Wings at the Blue Room Grill on the corner of East 60th Street and Second Avenue, seeking shelter from the rain, when the sidewalk below her gave way around 9:15 p.m.
Sinkhole develops on Broadmoor neighborhood street.
Updated: Jan 12, 2013 9:50 PM CST By Kerry Kirspel
- A large sinkhole that formed Friday night in Shreveport's Broadmoor neighborhood is causing some traffic woes. The sinkhole developed at the corner of Grover Place and India Drive. Neighbors say they heard running water and called the city. A 10- to 12-inch water pipe had broken in half. Crews set up a barricade to keep vehicles from driving into the large hole until repairs can be made
Residents in the village of Lianyuan in southern China’s Hunan Province have been treading rather gingerly these last few months. Over 20 sinkholes have opened up in the ground since last September. The cave-ins, which range in size, have seen houses collapse and rivers run dry. And there is never any warning as to where and when the sinkholes occur. According to local authorities, the main reason for the cave-ins is the number of coalmines in the area. It is not clear what steps are being taken to prevent further sinkholes from appearing