*WoW* Armed Coup d'état leaves Neocons OUSTED. Libertarians now running Freedomworks?

Possibly...

This plot sounds like it came right out of a political thriller. A lot of you may have given up hope on the 'corrupt political system' but news like this, with a Constitutional Conservatives strategy to OUST John Boehnor as speaker of the house. after he 'PURGED' true Libertarian/Constitutional conservatives from crucial committee posts (these two incidents have directly to do with this current situation), does show that there is a major struggle between the Libertarian-leaning faction of the Republican party and the Establishment/Neocon faction aka Old Guard vs. New Guard. This doesn't necessarily mean that the people now running the show are LIBERTY/Ron Paul folk, but do share many of the same views, domestically.

There is some other key factors that play into this but I can't get into that right now. However, I will say that it is GREAT news/progress for us 'liberty lovers'.


It might sound shady that a 'reclusive Illinois millionaire' bought influence but I will quote an interesting passage from the article below, that gives intriguing insight to where this 'millionaire' is actually coming from.

www.washingtonpost.com... 2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html

Richard K. Armey, the group’s chairman and a former House majority leader, walked into the group’s Capitol Hill offices with his wife, Susan, and an aide holstering a handgun at his waist. The aim was to seize control of the group and expel Armey’s enemies: The gun-wielding assistant escorted FreedomWorks’ top two employees off the premises, while Armey suspended several others who broke down in sobs at the news.

The coup lasted all of six days. By Sept. 10, Armey was gone — with a promise of $8 million — and the five ousted employees were back. The force behind their return was Richard J. Stephenson, a reclusive Illinois millionaire who has exerted increasing control over one of Washington’s most influential conservative grass-roots organizations.

Stephenson has a passion for libertarian politics stretching back to the 1960s, when he attended seminars featuring “Atlas Shrugged” author Ayn Rand and economist Murray Rothbard, according to those who know him at FreedomWorks.

"The story" from Matt Kibbe's point of view:
www.motherjones.com...

Bio on Freedomworks
en.wikipedia.org...

FreedomWorks is a conservative non-profit organization based in Washington D.C., United States. FreedomWorks trains volunteers, assists in campaigns, and encourages them to mobilize, interacting with both fellow citizens and their political representatives.

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Didn't check the links... Did this happen? Is Boe-Ner gone?

Originally posted by foodstamp
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Didn't check the links... Did this happen? Is Boe-Ner gone?

The vote for 'speaker of the house' is coming up in the new year.

Libertarian/Conservatives plotting to run Boehnor out of the speaker nomination only need 15 republicans to get on board to successfully keep him from winning. At that point, it is up to the 'voting majority' of the Republican side of the house to nominate and elect a new speaker. I just hope it isn't another establishment punk plotting behind the scenes and getting support to win the later ballots.

Great thread and great background. I'll be honest in saying Mother Jones isn't the source I take for the fine details of conversations reported.....but that isn't what has steam out my floppy ears after reading your entire linked source either.

I was luke warm and still not quite sure which way I ought to look at this ..until getting to what Dick's position actually was as a trustee,. That had me leaning toward him having the right to do this, even if bad bad judgement. Grrr...then I got to the part about priorities and Todd Akin. I have to live with another 6 years of McCaskil because of that ignorant toad. Dick liked him, did he?

And Quayle? *DAN* Quayle is still a major power broker in GOP actions today?? That's something I should have known...I'm sure I should have...but for some reason didn't. They sure don't parade his potato eating tail out very often, eh? I think they hide him like a party secret or something. I understand why too....Murphy Brown might recall a few reasons as well.

That alone almost makes reading the linked material 100% through, worth it.

Tommy Thompson and Todd Akin...Are Dick's (If that comes out sounding more like a slur than a proper name? Well..? Oops..) very first priorities eh? I have to say ....details like this don't shock me after what I saw done to Paul and his campaign ..some of it with my own eyes in the Missouri Caucus. This thread is why the old guard of the GOP has to go. Being CORRECT about anything ..ANYTHING...is happy coincidence to being RIGHT and insuring the Party is RIGHT.

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My thoughts...pretty much the same.


I don't know exactly what this situation does for ME and MY principles but I do know that anytime the OLD guard establishment is being rocked, it is a very good thing.

One thing I learned from local politics is that in order to take out the establishment, you must work with other minority factions. You may not be on the same boat but you do share one common, powerful enemy.

It was an Armey's attempt to use force to retain control of Freedomworks - what kind of jackass brings an armed security thug in to forcibly remove other members of a think tank?

I consider it a perfect example of come-uppance that Dick Armey ends up being the one bounced out of there on his arse. It was a scum-bag move.

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And Quayle? *DAN* Quayle is still a major power broker in GOP actions today?? That's something I should have known...I'm sure I should have...but for some reason didn't. They sure don't parade his potato eating tail out very often, eh? I think they hide him like a party secret or something. I understand why too....Murphy Brown might recall a few reasons as well.

Wrong Quayle. This is Ben Quayle - not the former Bush VP.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
It was an Armey's attempt to use force to retain control of Freedomworks - what kind of jackass brings an armed security thug in to forcibly remove other members of a think tank?

I consider it a perfect example of come-uppance that Dick Armey ends up being the one bounced out of there on his arse. It was a scum-bag move.

Typical establishment tactics to retain power. Desperate people do desperate things.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
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And Quayle? *DAN* Quayle is still a major power broker in GOP actions today?? That's something I should have known...I'm sure I should have...but for some reason didn't. They sure don't parade his potato eating tail out very often, eh? I think they hide him like a party secret or something. I understand why too....Murphy Brown might recall a few reasons as well.

Wrong Quayle. This is Ben Quayle - not the former Bush VP.

In the article the OP links, it details the fact Ben Quayle is the son of none other than Dan Quayle. It refers to him in passing as a power broker within the GOP.

It's the passing tidbits like that I give credibility to many times too ...the little things people toss in and don't even think important enough to lie or embellish. Daddy Bush retired ... why can't Mr. Potato?

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It refers to him in passing as a power broker within the GOP.

Thanks for the update. Although I would never believe that Dan Quayle was ever viewed as a 'power broker'. He was even more obscure and irrelevant than a Joe Biden.

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Stephenson may be the real deal. Seems to be a valued member of the von Mises Institute.

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He definitely has some of the 'qualifications' to be a die hard Libertarian. I didn't know about his position in the Von Mises Institute. Definitely adds another gold star by his name.

Hey Pres...That Post article is already down.

So, who do you think is going to step forward on Jan 3rd?

To establish a secret ballot election for Speaker of the House, one Republican member will need to step forward and introduce a resolution on the House floor on the morning of January 3, 2013, before any other business takes place. Those close to this plan are convinced that a member will step forward and introduce this resolution.Source

Ben Swann did a story today on the possible vote if any of you missed it.

www.fox19.com... -speaker-of-the-house-john-boehner-might-be-ousted

We need this guy kicked-out! I just hope we replace him with at least a real fiscal conservative. A Libertarian leaning republican would be priceless!

Interesting...that explains a couple things, like why I received a couple mailings from Dick Armey instead of Matt Kibbe. Somehow I ending up on their mailing list. Checking back, I did receive a notice about Boehner booting the three that was endorsed by FreedomWorks from their positions on a couple committees on Dec 4.

Maybe Mr. Kibbe and I need to have a little chat about the Spring of 2014...

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Daddy Bush didn't retire, but the Head Skeksis IS on his deathbed.

Political maneuvering at its best.

www.youtube.com...

Anybody who has the intellectual capacity to study, understand, and embrace Rothbard gets my attention.

Let's see what the news has in store for us in the coming days.

January 3rd is going to be a mighty interesting day, thats for sure.

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Not sure how great it is...Boehner wanted to raise taxes on folks making I believe a million dollars plus a year and was willing to not touch the lower rung of earners....the republicans went nuts...again just like anybody sitting at the head of the table it's not necessarily he or she that is calling the shots..

And this hole fiscal cliff is the usual load of crap from both sides...I love how they adopt these fear mongering phrases...rather than just saying we simply need to balance the budget they resort to fear tactics....the republicans I think came up with the term or first introduced it but the media and the democrats have embraced it also...

Neocons have been a disaster.

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Awesome, the neo-cons as an organization should practically be treated as domestic terrorists. They are standing against the prosperity of the large majority of America and other countries as well. The GOP needs to get down to its' conservative roots.

Originally posted by gladtobehere
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Stephenson may be the real deal. Seems to be a valued member of the von Mises Institute.

I have posted this elsewhere but it drives home the all important points so, I am going to post it again:

The US Federal Government is utterly out of control and as far as I am concerned, they are responsible for everything they have done and I want no part of it.