New MRSA superbug strain found in UK milk supply

Just another case of the chicken and the egg..

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by JustgibberisH
Wouldnt heating the milk in the microwave or on the stove kill the bug? funny how people get so scared.I swear its a friggin fear campaign against milk;

Not everybody drinks their milk warm.
The milk is supposedly been pasteurized so what more can anyone do at home?
And microwaving is bad for your food.

Thats why i also suggested the stove. So it comes down to either stop drinking milk, heat it up, or drink it nice and cold with a splash of superbug.What a pretty simple way to avoid it. Not that big of a deal

The first thing that comes to my mind is that the Agenda 21 proponents want to curtail cattle ranching due to their idea that raising and eating beef adds to co2 emission and global warming. I think it's a perfectly ridiculous idea but lots of people are buying into it. Agenda 21 attempts to take land including ranchland through eminent domain and using it for redevelopment projects, as well as discouraging ranchers from raising cattle.

I would watch for suggestions that cattle have to be destroyed to combat this new MRSA superbug.

Just a thought.

putting the milk issue aside, the scary thing here is all the workers who have come into contact with the mrsa and are now spreading it to all they touch. Mrsa is no longer just a threat in healthcare facilities. Community based mrsa is becoming increasingly more common in the last couple years.

I picked it up and got sick this last October. In three days a small under the skin pimple above my left eyebrow turned into cellulitis. My whole side of my face swelled up and my eye was swollen shut for almost 5 days. On day 4 I was admitted to the hospital. I was just about to the septic point with fever and other symptoms but it wasn't in my blood yet. I spent 6 days on iv antibiotics as well as an additional antibiotics. On day seven I was told I needed surgery. Three hours later I was on the operating table. After having a large amount of tissue with necrotic tissue removed I finally started to get better. The antibiotics for the mrsa are either iv only and or requires monitoring of your other organs because they are so strong. By the end of day ten i was released to go home. This was one of those things you think will never happen to you. But it does happen more often to more people every month. My husband thought he had an ingrown hair on his knee two weeks ago. By the next day we recognized the symptoms of staph and most likely the same mrsa. We caught it early and treated with the same class of antibiotics I was given when released from the hospital. It was only on his knee and caught early but it still took a long time to battle it.
Mrsa lerks everywhere now.

Is there a bit more to this story? The report cites Cambridge University as the source of the information, but the disaster information service gives the coordinates as N 52° 21.331, W 1° 10.459 (hisz.rsoe.hu...) which is an industrial unit in Northamptonshire - I haven't been able to find out what organisaton occupies that unit, but perhaps someone local to that area would know. Also, as other people have pointed out in this thread, (a) the prescence of antibiotics and other substances has been known for some time and (b) pasteurisation ought to deal with any problem of bugs. Has this story really got more to do with the politics of the dairy industry (as another person pointed out, the trend towards huge dairies owned by people with large amounts of money, unlike most ordinary farmers)? Or the latest in the series of infection-related scare stories, possibly to cover something else that is going on? The contributor who related it to the "zombie apocalypse" stories going round at the moment is an interesting one as well.

As ATS-ers are good at unravelling things that are more than first suspected, maybe it would be useful to dig a bit deeper into this.

So your telling me it can be picked up as easy as a common cold? is this a bug bite or airborne infection?

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Would it be an imposition to ask how you picked up the MRSA?

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Your thought could be right on.

Originally posted by JustgibberisH
So your telling me it can be picked up as easy as a common cold? is this a bug bite or airborne infection?

What tis the cows are sick, the milk does not have MRSA after it is pasteurized , but the cows are still sick and you are drinking milk from sick cow.
The MRSA is all over the place though, it's like a souped up version of staff infection.

The you have the flesh eating version, which is a streptococci, again souped up version don't go there.

Need to boost you immune system.

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by QueenofWeird
Wonder if essential oils can kill off this resistant one. Oregano oil seems to be the strongest oil.

I better stock up.
That stuff is potent.
Luckily I didnt have to use it as much at all anymore because
one thing I did was cut out MILK and dairy products!
Healthy eating is the key to good health.

Yes Oregano Oil, Tea Tree Oil and Rosemary....I use these in a plain water bottle for a kitchen spray....But I also use Lysol and Bleach..It just depends. Having an autoimmunity disease makes you more cautious about infectious bacteria!! I cut out ALL dairy products and noticed a huge difference!

Future of MRSA, yes, even getting a cut could potentially kill...Crazy.........

We have done this to ourselves no doubt.....It appears our species is more like a cancer, here to multiply and overtake the surrounding cells (devour our resources then move on)........

We are unsure where I picked it up. The only thing I could possibly attribute it to could be an eyebrow waxing a week or so before I noticed a soar follicle. The establishment was very reputable and my daughter also had hers done by the same beautician. It is common to have an irritated follicle after a waxing. I think I touched that follicle and scratched and in stormed the bacteria. The most simple of skin irritation is all that it takes to let in the bacteria. I was bored in the hospital so I read a lot about what mrsa is and how did it find it's way into my body. I am a healthy 41 year old. I have no underlying illness that comprised my immune system. We cleaned our house like crazy. I am on everyone's case about washing hands since I got sick. Even with better cleanliness my husband got it too. I found out that my brother whom I did not share germs with since he lives in another state is also battling staph infections. He has had three in the last year. They have not tested him for mrsa that I know of but, the bacteria keeps showing back up for him. I worry about any ouchie that I get. I wash every cut and fear when one becomes red or feels hot. My experience with mrsa was way too close to death for me. At one point I was throwing up my pain meds so none were in my system. I was in so much pain that I thought God had come to visit me and was resting his hand on my head. Now I gave birth twice with zero pain medication so, I have a good reference to what a lot of pain is like. They have old me I most likely picked it up someplace like the grocery store.

I used iodine, neosporin, rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, hot compresses, and tea tree oil on the infection before I ended up in the er.

Yogurt or kefer, will kill staff or e coli in a matter of seconds of contact.

I also heard the anti-bacterial soap cleaner promotes these souped up version of these bugs.

it might help to put yogurt in with your salads, I do.

Yogurt will be my first go to next time this super bug shows up. The antibiotics were very unpleasant. I have fickle veins and the iv drugs were very harsh. I had to get a specialist every other day to find a new vein for my iv. I do not want to do that again! I prefer using more natural methods but, I tell you this mrsa super bug is one tough cookie to battle.

To answer a question posed.

UHT milk is milk that goes through an Ultra High Temperature process that is far superior to normal pasteurization process and is therefore safer than ordinary milk.

The only real reason other animals do not drink milk is because they can't get it. Our dogs and cats consume milk that we give them without a problem (in most cases)

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I heard the milk prices where going to go up. I wonder if this has anything to do with it?

Originally posted by EnigmaAgent
This from the article lessens the impact of the story for me.

Experts say there is no risk of MRSA infection to consumers of milk or dairy products so long as the milk is pasteurised. The risk comes from farmworkers, vets and abattoir workers, who may become infected through contact with livestock and transmit the bug to others.

So the bugs are wiped out after pasturisation.

Good fine and this is why the FDA is so hard up on farmers selling raw milk. It does seems to pose a health risk.

Originally posted by sylent6

Originally posted by EnigmaAgent
This from the article lessens the impact of the story for me.

Experts say there is no risk of MRSA infection to consumers of milk or dairy products so long as the milk is pasteurised. The risk comes from farmworkers, vets and abattoir workers, who may become infected through contact with livestock and transmit the bug to others.

So the bugs are wiped out after pasturisation.

Good fine and this is why the FDA is so hard up on farmers selling raw milk. It does seems to pose a health risk.

It poses a health risk from farmers and for natural milk.....IF the farmer is the rural version of low class trash and keeps sick animals as milk producers. Southern Missouri here has a healthy dairy industry and I had my very first glass of raw milk a couple months ago at an outdoor farmer/fair event promoting buying locally.

It was ...different..but not too bad. I kinda liked it ...if only the price was a bit lower. Commercial milk is something I stopped drinking long ago ..and I feel better with weight loss I partially attribute to cutting it 100%.

The FDA and their goons have been here though. In fact, you may recall hearing major national and these days online, international coverage of a Raw Milk buy/bust at a Farmer's Market some time back in Springfield Missouri. That happened at the Battlefield Mall where they have a farmers market regularly and where we get our stuff when we have some extra cash to get real quality. It would have been laughable if it hadn't badly hurt real, normal citizens who didn't do a thing wrong but offer some good milk for sale ....100% open about what it was and where it came from. (That is a big selling point actually..and Gov't HATES it I bet)


You know the biggest reason I love the idea of local Milk production without Uncle arresting people? If the farmer screws up and we all get sick by MRSA or whatever else...it's limited to just some local folks ....more importantly, the farmer is getting a personal butt whooping and knows it. (only half joking...but they are RUINED as ever having a business again, so it keeps 'em honest) The only thing worse than sick people are LOCAL sick people.

the milk supply is getting contaminated after how many years of antibiotic use?

So, I'm sure I'll get a ton of resistance, which is amazing considering that what I am saying is perfectly reasonable. This is one more reason to stop consuming dairy products. At the very least, factory farmed dairy products The cattle are kept in filthy, confined, close-quarters conditions and if you really believe otherwise you're a fool. If you really believe they are given veterinary care, you're a fool. If you really believe all those cows are not mistreated, or at least some of the cows are severely abused, you're a fool. And if you really believe the milk in your fridge didn't come from a factory farm or a factory farm subsidiary, you're a fool.

Here's my point. The cows are close-quartered, confined, a lot of the workers abuse them. Here's the reason: Time. They get in trouble for not meeting production quotas, it's been proven in peer-reviewed studies that this psychologically causes many (but not all, a lot of these guys just cant find other work and have families to feed) to take it out, so to speak, on the cattle. They DO hit the cattle, kick them, et cetera. The cattle have untreated wounds that fester. They are given heavy doses of antibiotics to prevent infection-related losses, eventually the pathogens become resistant (and don't kid yourself, MRSA is very common in feed lots, milking facilities, and killing floors.) If you really think the cows you see on the side of the road are producing the 30,000 gallon+ of milk EACH per year, you're a fool. They are hooked up to siphoning machines day and night. Artificially inseminated, fed cereals and corns, not grass. Cows may get grass for the first year of their lives while raised on ranches. After they are sent to production facilities, that stops. It spreads to employees via the blood of the cattle, and apparently in the milk.

And now it's resistant because of the heavy dosing of antibiotics, which are not given under the care of a veterinarian. [as an employee of a local tropical fish store, I was allowed to handle and use erythromycin, tetracyclin, doxycyclin, quinine sulphate, nitrofurazone, furazolidone, formalin, malachite green, methyline blue, acriflavine, praziquantel, metronidazole, chloroquinine, etc) many of these are extremely dangerous and available by prescription only for human use. But I worked at a fish store with no credentials and I was able to dose these fish, untrained, unsupervised, with only a list of sick fish and what medicines they needed that day. Cattle have their meds administered by untrained employees.


People need to boycott these factory farms. Look at who owns them, and who runs them, and who makes laws about their regulation. Look at who wrote the "animal enterprise terrorism act" and who runs the "animal enterprises" in question. In the US, if you are caught at a protest out of state that causes an "animal enterprise" "economic damages" you are arrested as a terrorist, no different than if you'd bombed a church.


Boycott the factory farms. At the very least, support local/organic farmed products. Don't complain about price, eat less of it. It's not hard, people. All of this is related and relevant.


I like what Alex Collier's andromedans allegedly said about our consumption. "Don't they realize they need this planet and they do not have another one?"

Scientists were warning for years that this would happen. Literally years, but there was no "profit" in listening to them. By "years", I watched a documentary on 1982 about it, and even then it was old news.

Our culture today revolves around "Better a cheap eat today, than a long life tomorrow, and anyway, science will fix it."

Well, our science can't fix it in this instance, because evolution is the law of nature. Those bugs evolved, to beat our science, and they are doing it quite well.

Also, if you read the original report, its the RAW MILK that is infected, not the final PASTURIZED or UHT end product. For now. Pasturization and UHT currently kills all known pathogens. I wonder if they are evolving a resistance to heat treatments though....