The latest from “DHS Insider” 26-Dec-2012

reply to post by AuranVector


I agree with all you say except for the reasoning behind tptb choosing Obama. As a black person myself I have always believed he was chosen so that he would be the fall guy for the collapse of america, and black people as a whole will be blamed which will trigger race wars, a smoke and mirrors plan to keep us fighting eachother while the crooks get away with the gold.

reply to post by komp_uk


People have been saying the dollar is going to fail since Nixon went off the gold standard!
Just one problem what would the world replace it with?
Even if they were to let the dollar fail it would still take a few years to happen!
I have been doing research on the financial crisis since 2003 and so many people have set dates and they come and go! Well I could go on talking about why I don't think this will happen but I don't have time right now!
Goodnight ATS.

This guy knows a bit to much, and when I say a bit to much, I mean a small circle of people. A small circle of people do not last very long with a leak. So, the fact this guy is leaking this much information, without being caught, probably means it is a hoax.

This guy had some interesting things to say until he used Larry Grathwohl as a legitimate source of information. This guy is a dysinfo lunatic. Just look at the scare tactics this guy uses, and baseless at that:

www.youtube.com...


Listen to Bill Ayers, then listen to this schmuck and you will know all you need to know.

reply to post by komp_uk


Calling for the collapse of the dollar is laughable. Seriously? I stopped right there even attempting to consider this source to be relevant. Of course you know ''Rosebud'' is getting paid in Krugerrands and has a private jet ready to fly away when all hell breaks loose. But I'm sure he'll pause just long enough to let you know.

I can’t give you a date. I can tell you to watch things this spring. Start with the inauguration and go from there.

This is the one part I agree on. Kerry's name sake is a big clue.

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by camaro68ss
from a friend of a friend, there are whole community’s gearing up for what they call the revolution. Their thoughts of the “revolution “ is the point of no return when the government throws out the constitution and those in power create their own new laws.

Some will say we already passed this point but it has yet to be implemented.


again, friend of a friend type stuff.

If you have people foolhardy enough to mount an open rebellion against TPTB, I think they will be crushed quickly. I don't care what kind of weapons stockpiles they have, they are NO match for the professional military.

Their (the rebels) best chance of survival is to remain underground and unidentified -- secret cells of resistance.

And you my friend are now red flaged by (choose your alphabet soup Fed agency) for your post! This is the type of stuff they're watching for ya know! Just sayin

Originally posted by milkyway12
This guy knows a bit to much, and when I say a bit to much, I mean a small circle of people. A small circle of people do not last very long with a leak. So, the fact this guy is leaking this much information, without being caught, probably means it is a hoax.

edit on 27-12-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

Depending on how far along they are with operational plans, the circle could be bigger than we might think.

reply to post by ausername


the only chaos would be everybody running to the government looking for food and help and farmers scratching their heads as to why nobody is buying their eggs, chicken and meat.

reply to post by Impreza


Well know soon enough if he's for real. No need to laugh at anyone, the truth comes out no matter what you don't need to put up your certain face. You arn't certain of anything so stop bulls hitting around.

I don't like people who act all certain, you don't know shi*t bro.

Again, we have numerous posters ridiculing this source/blog.
A bunch of deniers, is all you are. Go back to sleep!

If anyone actually steps back to look around...and turns the TV off...
They would see these plans coming to fruition. It is by no means a "stretch".
Look at all the gov't preparations...look at Denver...look at CONgress.
You know what I see?

A bunch of wanna-be despots scrambling around to find new ways to fund their agendas.
They aren't fixing roads or our electric grid...their building new database centers.
They aren't helping the stranded citizens...they are stockpiling ammo and food.
They aren't slashing spending and controlling debts...they are allocating more money.
They aren't investing in the US or our States...they are investing in war and spying.
How can anyone disagree with any of this?

Has anyone seen our towns? Our industries? Our jobs?
They are crumbling around us and we continue to say..."It's not happening."
Well, not me. I refuse to wear the blinders. I see the turmoil.
I see the path we are headed on and it isn't pretty.

They aren't helping the people rebuild this great nation...they are padding their pockets.

I read this thread and then read the link to the original transcript last night. Two minutes after I finished, this thread came up:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What is interesting is the part about "grandfathering" in certain weapons, which to me, sounded a bit like the amnesty mentioned in the transcript. Looks like they're already on their way....

reply to post by komp_uk


Funny this guy mentions Denver with a big Star on it. Denver has always been suspicious in my opinion.

During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver.

reply to post by komp_uk


I think this guy has lost his mind, best part of this all is the below quote about not releasing further information until after the inauguration…must be convenient to give vague predictions about what may happen after Obama is (unfortunately) sworn in for a second term so that he can frame his predictions as being correct. I’m all for conspiracies but come on…

NOTE: At this point, my contact asked me to reserve further disclosures until after the inauguration.

reply to post by komp_uk


Also, he mentions alternate maps of the US being available online, does anyone have a link to that? This has piqued my curiosity.

You know, there are always going to be people who doubt what is obviously unfolding in front of them.

Nobody wants to see things for what they really are, because the inevitable is just too hard to fathom.

Yet an economic collapse is inevitable! It is basic economics 101. How in the world can you flood the market with dollars created out of thin air, on a daily basis, and expect that our currency will remain strong??

Our economic collapse IS orchestrated, otherwise the federal reserve wouldn't make such blantanly bone-headed moves like printing crap-tons of money. Yet the banks are not loaning money out, except to people that don't need it, but appreciate the extra-low interest rates.

I don't care if the source says he's Mickey Mouse, there is a lot of truth in what is said. We play the stock market every business day here, I see what is happening. There are no solid financial fundamentals to hold this market up, it is total manipulation and lies.

We will wake up one day, completely oblivious, and our money won't be worth a rat's ass. The freak-out from people will be epic, to say the least.

The death of America as a sovereign super-power is planned, expected, and inevitable. First they had to destroy the middle class....and what was the source of most middle class wealth? The equity in their home. That's already a done deal...if people did hold on to their house, the value is now much lower. Once the middle class is all but eliminated, then you have to get people reliant on Uncle Sugar for basic needs like food, housing and health care. Lastly, you have to remove the weapons from people who might resist the coming tyranny. A few more horrific shootings should do the trick, so that most people willingly go and turn in their guns.

Then you collapse the currency, and decrease it's value to almost nothing. People will be starving and will beat each other to death for a can of pork and beans. Most people now are only a few days away from being starving and homeless. Take a people who were raised to expect there to be plenty of food, clean water, and a warm place to sleep, and remove all of that from them, and watch how quickly everything devolves into utter chaos. If people would trample each other on Black Friday just to get a new cheap X-Box or a flat screen TV, think what they would do when they and their families have nothing to eat.

The final coup d'etat will be to make sure those who are still holding on to property, lose it, either through sky-high taxation coupled with severe currency deflation, or by outright theft by government.

We have some dark days ahead of us. Go ahead and call it doom porn, negative thinking, whatever. When your bank account is suddenly worth only a few dollars, and a loaf of bread is $10, you will know that the destruction is complete.

My first real perusal of that Canadafreepress site gave me something of a Worldnet Daily vibe. Ultra religious, birther oriented, somewhat sensational, over the top right winger kinda stuff.

That put me off a bit until I heard Hagmann interviewed on the radio this afternoon. He seemed very level headed and more Patriot leaning than what I first believed. I'm still not completely sold on the whole thing because I hate "secret sources", but it is a little more credible than what my first impression told me.

I refuse to throw ad homenims around (doom porn, etc.), but I just don't understand why anyone would make this up. I know it happens, but what's the motivation? Why would a writer risk his credibility with such a stunt?

reply to post by FissionSurplus


Such an excellent example of a great post!
Thanks, Fission.

It's all too clear, and I believe your words are spot on.
Print the most money possible and see what happens?
How can anyone not understand this is obviously a setup?

The QE1,2,3,4 etc...it's just Bernankes way of expediting the process.
It's blatantly obvious they are in a hurry now, too many people are becoming aware.
And they want out.

People are waking up to the scheme and they want out in any way possible.
I say for certain that is why we are seeing such dramatic events unfolding!
The internet "regulations"..."gun grabs"..."fiscal cliffs"...
It's becoming more and more important to shut down information.
We are learning too much.

What's sad is there are people who agree with it and believe we need this agenda!

My favorite small section of the article:

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing.

Anyone still wondering about the recent massive increase in scoffers and skeptics?

No one should be wondering why some people are just not able to "get it" anymore. They are payed not to.

Some fundamental questions need to be answered:

1. Can this guy prove he's in the DHS?

2. Can he give any kind of proof to show that his information is valid? A specific mini-prediction that comes true, something that wouldn't just happen anyway, like precious metals rising and falling?

You can't just take current events and wed them to popular conspiracy theories and call it inside information. Yeah, the economy's in the crapper. Yeah, DHS is buying ammo. But none of that PROVES depopulation, eugenics and all that other stuff. I want to see documents. Photos. Or at least proof that this guy is not talking through his hat.

His prediction about things "going hot" didn't come true the way any reasonable person could interpret it, so the insider snarkily throws it back on us and says, yeah, my prediction did come true, you're just not smart enough to interpret it properly.

In the church, we call this person a false prophet. False prophets always backpeddle and change their story and attack thier critics.

In six months, when there is no doom, you will all forget about this and be on to the next thing. That's my prediction.