The lost Black Pyramid of Giza

Interesting your assumption of a fourth signifcant Pyramid,
but as Blackmarketeer has already mentioned - there is a pyramid known as
the Black Pyramid and the granite capstone resides in an egyptian museum.

In the past I had a book~set published by Time Magazine presenting the history
of our planet.
It mentions the Giza pyramids and has a quote from and ancient historian whom viewed
the pyramids personally around the time of Christ...so two thousand years ago.
There was no mention of a fourth pyramid - but what he did mention that seems quite interesting
is that "the pyramids were quite an astounding beauty with the exception of the Great Pyramid missing
it's captstone." Conclusive evidence that we all know.
What he wrote next I have never found verification for.
He stated that the pyramids were covered in polished lime stone (this we know also)
but that the center limestone tablets were inscribed in "glyphs of our Solar System" accompanied
by a "strange hieroglyphic writing".

It has been stated that the limestone casings were stripped to build the Taj Mahal
and other King's castles.

It would stand to reason that before stripping the casing stones, which would have been ordered by a ruler,
said ruler would of had a scribe sketch the pyramids COMPLETE with their etchings.

Where would that book of etchings be today..?
If I was to guess - I would say the Vatican.

The historic writer may have been Ptolimecs as Pharoah mentioned, as it sounds familiar but I can
not be certain.

Good luck in your quest!

reply to post by HumAnnunaki


I don't think there can be confusion with the 'black pyramid' of Amenemhat III at Dashur, which was made of mud and brick, formerly covered in limestone.


I'll need to follow up the 'rumours' that it was the most Westerly pyramid of Giza which contained all the treasure chambers and artifacts and was dismantled by the Freemasons...see if the Arabic sources do indicate this.

The ‘Western Pyramid’ at Giza at that time was the Black Pyramid and the discoveries were things undreamt of in those times…non-corrosive iron and plastics. The ‘thirty treasury chambers’ were not found in today’s Western-most pyramid, Mycinerus, for detailed records revealed that it was opened in1196, thoroughly searched, and its solitary chamber razed


A record of the destruction of the Black Pyramid was found in Masonic literature and revealed that work commenced in 1759 and took ten months to complete. A Scottish faction of the Masonic movement was responsible for its demise that was motivated by the possible discovery of hidden treasure.They took the initiative to dismantle the structure with the support of the English Freemasons who were promised a share of proceeds from any discovery to finance the expansion their movement. The black stones were sold to help finance the operation and some are seen in buildings in Cairo today.

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
Interesting your assumption of a fourth signifcant Pyramid,
but as Blackmarketeer has already mentioned - there is a pyramid known as
the Black Pyramid and the granite capstone resides in an egyptian museum.

In the past I had a book~set published by Time Magazine presenting the history
of our planet.
It mentions the Giza pyramids and has a quote from and ancient historian whom viewed
the pyramids personally around the time of Christ...so two thousand years ago.
There was no mention of a fourth pyramid - but what he did mention that seems quite interesting
is that "the pyramids were quite an astounding beauty with the exception of the Great Pyramid missing
it's captstone." Conclusive evidence that we all know.
What he wrote next I have never found verification for.
He stated that the pyramids were covered in polished lime stone (this we know also)
but that the center limestone tablets were inscribed in "glyphs of our Solar System" accompanied
by a "strange hieroglyphic writing".

It has been stated that the limestone casings were stripped to build the Taj Mahal
and other King's castles.

It would stand to reason that before stripping the casing stones, which would have been ordered by a ruler,
said ruler would of had a scribe sketch the pyramids COMPLETE with their etchings.

Where would that book of etchings be today..?
If I was to guess - I would say the Vatican.

The historic writer may have been Ptolimecs as Pharoah mentioned, as it sounds familiar but I can
not be certain.

Good luck in your quest!

edit on 24-12-2012 by HumAnnunaki because: giving credit to a poster

The strange "strange hieroglyphic writing". could have been like what was found in the pyramid shaft, if it was accompanied by other writing it may have been a translation or key to reading it. I would think that those stones are somewhere whole and someone has all the information as usual kept secret from all of us nobodies.

A topic you may find interesting, posted here on ATS by Hanslune;

Khufu's little known satellite pyramid, G1-d

This, however, would never be confused as a peer to the three larger pyramids of the Giza plateau. It's almost certain that it is Djedefre's pyramid being referred to in those early explorer's illustrations, and Djedefre was the son of Khufu. That is another factor that connects this pyramid to Giza, even though it's not technically part of the Giza plateau.

If thats the case then they wear not trying to mimic Orion wear they? UNLESS a star blew up.

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
What he wrote next I have never found verification for.
He stated that the pyramids were covered in polished lime stone (this we know also)
but that the center limestone tablets were inscribed in "glyphs of our Solar System" accompanied
by a "strange hieroglyphic writing".

It has been stated that the limestone casings were stripped to build the Taj Mahal
and other King's castles.

It's really infuriating how when you do more research, you hit those barriers of the physical site having been compromised due to looting. Different surrounding powers & cultures, including locals, didn't even consider that these megalithic structures should probably be preserved; intact. Cases like this, although only an unverified account, make you think. If scribes really sketched these supposed etchings, for what reason would the Vatican have to to keep them hidden in their library? You'd think findings like that would be open knowledge --- that is unless...

Anyway, in regard to the 4th pyramid rumor. If it really existed, you think there would be more documents from locals & travelers. Why would a supposed dark pyramid with a cube capstone & incredible artifacts not be more commonly documented among the other 3? It's an intriguing notion though..

Originally posted by Infi8nity
If thats the case then they wear not trying to mimic Orion wear they? UNLESS a star blew up.

When a star blows up it's nova usually hangs around for centuries.

Also, *were

I remember seeing a documentary about ten years ago, about these explorers that found a hidden door, room, and casket near the Giza complex. Upon entering the chamber everything was fine, until they opened the casket, and poisonous gasses started to fill the room. Needless to say they ran outside, when they got outside, they weer hit with a bright light and passed out. When they came to, the site they were on was completely gone, or they had been transported to another location while they were knocked out. Pretty wild.


I wonder if this is somehow related?

reply to post by MmmPie
Wouldn't have a link or remember the name of the documentary now would you?

Just a brief note:

At the time Norden was there the necropolis was covered with sand. I would suspect that the GIII-A pyramid which is pyramid shaped was uncovered by sand dunes at the time while the smaller step pyramids, GIII-B & C were covered up, or he just didn't consider them pyramids because they 'weren't', its also possible the GIII-A was in shadow at the time - but that is speculation

Here is an image in a website that gives the impression of what Norden might have seen - think deep sand

Menkaure and his queens


As for 'Black' its possible that the GIII-A still had its outer cladding, Menkaure had used red granite on his pyramid and perhaps he used black on his Queens, or Norden just got it wrong.

Edited to add:

Another image from Norden's book shows another view of the pyramids - show the three and two queens


Norden’s 4th ‘pyramid' is not shown on Perring’s 1837 map of the Giza site, neither on Lepsius’s 1842 map.

A comparison of Norden's image to a later image from the French Expedition about 45 years later - scroll down

About 50 years separate Norden and Bonaparte’s later expedition to the Giza site, but Norden’s 4th ‘pyramid’ is not shown on the Giza site plan in ‘The Monument’s of Egypt’. However, a 4th pyramid to the south of G3, is shown in the perspective drawing of the Giza three (Vol. 5 Pl. 7), drawn from the SE. This 4th pyramid is the easternmost subsidiary pyramid, G3a that has a 44m square base and a height of 28,4m. This perspective drawing is very similar to Norden’s perspective drawing (Pl. XLII) which although drawn from a position further north also shows a 4th pyramid in more or less the same position relative to G3.

G3 has a 104,6m square base and a height of 66,45m. Norden states that the 4th pyramid is 100’ (30.4m) less than the 3rd pyramid, which means his 4th pyramid is about 36m high. G3a is 28.4m high, so not a big difference.

He states that the 4th ‘pyramid’ is “situated out of the line of the others, being a little more to the west.” G3a is to the west of the SE corners of the Giza three. However, the location of Norden’s 4th ‘pyramid’ on his site plan is not consistent with G3a.

From a post by Christ Tedder at another site

So I'd say its GIII-A as the black stone.........


Good thread

I'll comment more next year

reply to post by Hanslune



There is also this drawing by Norden were the perspective isn't great but he does seem to have been aware of at least two of the G3 satellites, it seems unlikely he would have considered one as a fourth Giza main pyramid and ignored another.


Also on the Bonaparte expedition plan all the Queens pyramids of G1 and G3 are indicated.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Howdy Kantzveldt

Sorry I have to go but I added more material to my post. I've seen this same image before and had the same discussion, its GIII-a....as to black...unknown

Cool thread, I doubt the Mason account, as how could such a structure possibly be disassembled at that time in 10 months? Let alone shipped abroad.

I'm curious as to the source of the black stone-the quarry couldn't be anywhere near, as I understand local geology...

reply to post by Kantzveldt


There have been many many rumors about the pyramids, their construction and purpose, and many theories about it. People very frequently stop at one idea closing their minds to other ideas and though not discovering the truth. If you look at it from a different perspective, funny things start happening. What if that pyramid wasn't always there, then came back and went away over and over again? What if it wasn't really a stone pyramid? But something else, maybe something that resembles a pyramid but is in fact something that can either disappear or fly away? That would make it consistent with the different reports of being there and not being there, would it not?
I know this is a far fetched theory, but besides people being wrong on their observations, it is the only viable alternative.

Andro

reply to post by Kantzveldt


One man vs 4000 years of both written and oral history.

I highly doubt he was correct.

Very interesting account, thanks for sharing. Though its hard to imagine something that large being dismantled completely so quickly.

reply to post by xquietonex



It wasn't very large as these things go and the suggestion is that the stone was re-used in Cairo with the Freemasons hoping that during the dismantling artifacts would be revealed.




reply to post by Hanslune


That was my thread over at Maat, and i'm still not convinced with regards to Giii-a.....

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Don't get me wrong, I don't discount the Masonic theory...I think it probably fits best if the pyramid did indeed exist.

I could do the calcs for the size of the pyramid your evidence purports, and we're still talking about a mammoth task to both construct and deconstruct...thousands of tonne of stone...Fascinating stuff.

If it indeed went to Cairo, any indication as to where was it utilized? If the Masons grabbed everything of esoteric value, what's the logic in taking the structure with it?

Originally posted by Barcs
It makes me wonder.

Could this have been part of it originally? I bet there are plenty of other demolished structures as well.

Could this be the cube from Transformers?

The History Channel's "The Lost Pyramid" has been aired this past week and over the last few years. It seems that a later Pharoah wanted to build his pyramid 3-5 miles out from Giza-central, but on a higher level, but still within sight of the others across the flat desert.

His pyramid's ruins were shown on the special episode, and it seems most of it was taken down to ground level and used in the building of modern day Cairo.

Very interesting subject. Catch the special on it if you havent already!