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2 Thesssalonians 2
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Matthew 7 (Sheep and Goats)
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Originally posted by micmerci
Can you elaborate on the biblical reference to this particular date? Thank you.
Originally posted by TheCanuckian
reply to post by EnochWasRight
The bible says that we won't be able to predict the end times and even if we got it right God would spite us and move the date. Also in the bible it gives clear indications on when the end of times begins.
Today was not that day.
If your so devout, how did you miss this? I learned that in elementary school.
Your better to live your life like you will die tomorrow anyways, you might do something better with your life then spread your false interpretations.
By the way, linking to your own topics as proof of your claim is not real science at all. Shall I write ten topics and then interlink them all as proof? Will you believe my story if I do?
At least try and provide some unbiased factual evidence when making these grand claims, otherwise quit wasting your and my time.
edit on 21-12-2012 by TheCanuckian because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by micmerci
reply to post by TheCanuckian
Misquoting scripture in rebuttal is not science either. Nowhere does it say that God will spite us and move the day for correctly guessing when it will be. In fact the bible hints that the elect could discern the timeframe but not the day or hour.
Satan has ruled over Earth for thousands of years and the Bible/Koran has aided in his takeover.
Luke 22:3
Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.
Satan most certainly does have power over people, if not then why are we in the situation we are in now? Lies, war, famine, pollution, lies, and more lies, Satan (ego) rules Earth because power begets corruption and corruption is Satan's game plan. If Satan doesn't rule Earth then who does?
Also, Christianity and Islam (I assume those are the two you are talking about) are not the only religions to study the light and dark aspects of humanity, just about ALL of them do.
So Satan whispering into people's ears and having them do what he tells them is not controlling them how?
Christianity and Islam aren't anywhere near to being the first religions, they are fairly recent compared to some others, so how does a work that comes after be enforced by the ones that came before? It should be the other way around.
Satan does not "control".
Some people, more prone to evil believe those evil ideas are the product of their own minds and sometimes act upon it.
Also it works both ways..a newer religion can sometimes enforce the older one and vice versa. The idea that good and evil are opposed to each other is supported by all religions.... except religions that say its good to kill and its a virtue to be a thief etc.