Chinese State Media Demands US Citizens Be Disarmed

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I'll worry about what china thinks just as soon as they quick killing baby girls by the hundreds.

And what about the thousands that have been killed through
pointless wars mine and your country have been part off? I have
never said china is perfect, but your coubtry and mine, also has
blood on their hands.

Sure they do. And if i lived somewhere else, Id feel the same way about america as I do about china.

I will still give no concern to chinese 'demands' when their draconian laws lead to thousands of dead babies.

Thank you! You have just proven my point with that statement. So, you say
that you would feel the same way about america, as you do china, if you were
not living there. So, basically you dont feel that way because its your country.

Perfect example of someone who is brainwashed and conditioned!

False. I am saying no country should have a right to demand what others do inside of their boarders. The US doesnt have a right to dictate what happens in China. Nor does china have a right to dictate what happens here.

What a sad, pathetic little leap you made there, based on one single post.

You're problem here, is that you do not understand the difference between nationalism and patriotism.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
And what about the thousands that have been killed through
pointless wars mine and your country have been part off? I have
never said china is perfect, but your coubtry and mine, also has
blood on their hands.

Are you aware of the 30,000,000 Chinese Killed during the cultural revolution? How many Tibetans were neatly "Dealt with" or how many Vietnamese were "taught a lesson" in 1979?

Jay every country has blood on their hands. Ask yourself this. If the Chinese Government is willing to kill over 30,000,000 of it's own people to maintain control what makes you think they'd treat non Chinese any better? You say you've been in China yet you fail to speak of their very well known and strong "Nationalism" which puts American "Patriotism" to shame....

Think about it Jay

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Jay-morris


I never said everyone! But its enough to conyrol a nation. I never
label a country as one. Everyone is an individual. That why i would
never say all americans are like this, or all chinese are like that.

So why didnt you say Some peoples view of Patriotism is Backwards.....

No you said AMERICAS view of it is Backwards. You lumped EVERYONE into your personal view.

Just a simple mistake. Look at my past posts on this board,
And you will know that i dont put everyone in one box like
the borg. How could i, i dont know everyone

I know there are people who feel like i do from different countries. I
have spoken to many on this board alone. Thats why i hate talking about
a country like a collective, and i have stated that many times on this site.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I'll worry about what china thinks just as soon as they quick killing baby girls by the hundreds.

And what about the thousands that have been killed through
pointless wars mine and your country have been part off? I have
never said china is perfect, but your coubtry and mine, also has
blood on their hands.

Sure they do. And if i lived somewhere else, Id feel the same way about america as I do about china.

I will still give no concern to chinese 'demands' when their draconian laws lead to thousands of dead babies.

Thank you! You have just proven my point with that statement. So, you say
that you would feel the same way about america, as you do china, if you were
not living there. So, basically you dont feel that way because its your country.

Perfect example of someone who is brainwashed and conditioned!

False. I am saying no country should have a right to demand what others do inside of their boarders. The US doesnt have a right to dictate what happens in China. Nor does china have a right to dictate what happens here.

What a sad, pathetic little leap you made there, based on one single post.

You're problem here, is that you do not understand the difference between nationalism and patriotism.

edit on 22-12-2012 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)

Nice try trying to get out of that one. You made it pretty clear
in that single post.

reply to post by Jay-morris


Jay when you're finally able to pull your head out of your backside and realize people have a difference on opinion that's not simply the result of being "brainwashed and conditioned with Patriotism" then I think an adult discussion can take place

Until then.

Meh....

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Jay-morris
And what about the thousands that have been killed through
pointless wars mine and your country have been part off? I have
never said china is perfect, but your coubtry and mine, also has
blood on their hands.

Are you aware of the 30,000,000 Chinese Killed during the cultural revolution? How many Tibetans were neatly "Dealt with" or how many Vietnamese were "taught a lesson" in 1979?

Jay every country has blood on their hands. Ask yourself this. If the Chinese Government is willing to kill over 30,000,000 of it's own people to maintain control what makes you think they'd treat non Chinese any better? You say you've been in China yet you fail to speak of their very well known and strong "Nationalism" which puts American "Patriotism" to shame....

Think about it Jay

I never said china was perfect! You are completly missing
the point here. Like i said before, you really think your goverment
cares about you? Do you think they care about american soldiers
dying in pointless wars? You really think so?

Also, dont you think china has changed in the last 30 years? While
there is plenty of room for improvement, its a damn site better. And don't
you think america has no blood on its hands when it comes americans?

This is not about which country worst, its about the fact
that most governments have done, and still do terrible
things. Yes, even china! Shock horror!
af

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Jay-morris


I never said everyone! But its enough to conyrol a nation. I never
label a country as one. Everyone is an individual. That why i would
never say all americans are like this, or all chinese are like that.

So why didnt you say Some peoples view of Patriotism is Backwards.....

No you said AMERICAS view of it is Backwards. You lumped EVERYONE into your personal view.

Just a simple mistake. Look at my past posts on this board,
And you will know that i dont put everyone in one box like
the borg. How could i, i dont know everyone

I know there are people who feel like i do from different countries. I
have spoken to many on this board alone. Thats why i hate talking about
a country like a collective, and i have stated that many times on this site.

It was a BOLD statement, to say Americas view of Patriotism is backwards.
You had time to clarify. You didn't, until now. You said it. OWN it.

Peace, and Merry Christmas.......

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I'll worry about what china thinks just as soon as they quick killing baby girls by the hundreds.

And what about the thousands that have been killed through
pointless wars mine and your country have been part off? I have
never said china is perfect, but your coubtry and mine, also has
blood on their hands.

Sure they do. And if i lived somewhere else, Id feel the same way about america as I do about china.

I will still give no concern to chinese 'demands' when their draconian laws lead to thousands of dead babies.

Thank you! You have just proven my point with that statement. So, you say
that you would feel the same way about america, as you do china, if you were
not living there. So, basically you dont feel that way because its your country.

Perfect example of someone who is brainwashed and conditioned!

False. I am saying no country should have a right to demand what others do inside of their boarders. The US doesnt have a right to dictate what happens in China. Nor does china have a right to dictate what happens here.

What a sad, pathetic little leap you made there, based on one single post.

You're problem here, is that you do not understand the difference between nationalism and patriotism.

edit on 22-12-2012 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)

Nice try trying to get out of that one. You made it pretty clear
in that single post.

Really? Where did i "make it clear" that I believe in nationalism? How can you possibly know me well enough to know where I stand on this matter, outside of one single post? Wherre did I say anything about supporting what America has done internationally, in any way?

You have NO IDEA where I stand on said topic, yet you are slimy enough to call me brainwashed.

Again, what a sad, pathetic little leap you made.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Jay-morris

 

Jay when you're finally able to pull your head out of your backside and realize people have a difference on opinion that's not simply the result of being "brainwashed and conditioned with Patriotism" then I think an adult discussion can take place

Until then.

Meh....

Utter BS! You have pretty much lied and twisted my words on
this thread, which is for all to see. Oh, and this is a discussion
board where everyone has an opinion. Thats how discussions
and debates start you know

reply to post by sonnny1


Sigh

Look at my history! I have nothing to hide. Made a mistake,
and i will admit it. If thats all you have got on me, thats kind
of sad

Merry xmas to you too

reply to post by captaintyinknots


Sigh This is what you said.

Sure they do. And if i lived somewhere else, Id feel the same way about america as I do about china.

Cant you see it? You said "if i lived somehere else, id feel the same way about america as i do china.
Why would you have to live somehwere else? You saying you cant feel the same way because its the
country you live in?

Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

Sigh

This is what you said.

Sure they do. And if i lived somewhere else, Id feel the same way about america as I do about china.

Cant you see it? You said "if i lived somehere else, id feel the same way about america as i do china.
Why would you have to live somehwere else? You saying you cant feel the same way because its the
country you live in?

You completely missed the point. The point is, that i am inside this country,and therefore do not stand for another country attempting to dictate our laws, especially one that kills so many babies.

If I were in, say, china, and america was trying to dictate the laws, I would take issue with that. Nowhere, not one place, did I say anything about supporting this or that. I spoke on one specific thing.

You are so desperate to make your point that you are missing an important thing called CONTEXT.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Look at my past posts on this board

Ok.

Let's look at it.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
your an idiot!

Originally posted by Jay-morris
You're an idiot! Is that better?

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Try and debate with me, and we will see who the idiot is.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Yeah, but when idiots are posting crap...

I have lived in china, not like some of the idiots

Originally posted by Jay-morris
you are pretty much clueless!

Originally posted by Jay-morris
All this thread has proved, is that
most people are brainwashed....

Some horrible things being said by the easily condition. Conditioned with the BS that is
patrioism for your country !

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Once they condition and brainwash "their" people to be patriotic

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Plain and simple, they are conditioned and brainwashed. Patrioism
for your country

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Oh, sorry if i dont think like the rest of the brainwashed
and conditioned folks.

Its very clear that most people are brainwashed and conditioned.

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Originally posted by Jay-morris
Utter BS! You have pretty much lied and twisted my words on
this thread, which is for all to see. Oh, and this is a discussion
board where everyone has an opinion. Thats how discussions
and debates start you know

Discussion and debates start by calling people idiots and accusing them of being brainwashed and conditioned?

Jay, seriously look at your own posting history in this thread and see who acts as if they're brainwashed and conditioned. Who is giving the repeated canned responses here?

reply to post by SLAYER69

Discussion and debates start by calling people idiots and accusing them of being brainwashed ans conditioned? 

Jay, seriously look at your own posting history in this thread and see who acts as if they're brainwashed and conditioned. Who is giving the repeated canned responses here? 

Come on slayer! Your gonna have to do better than that! The idiot and clueless
quotes were directed at the person who said "we should nuke china" anyone
who posts this about any country, is an idiot, and clueless.

Have i called you an idiot? or anyone else who has debated with me long
enough on this thread? You are again twisting my posts

Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Discussion and debates start by calling people idiots and accusing them of being brainwashed ans conditioned? 

Jay, seriously look at your own posting history in this thread and see who acts as if they're brainwashed and conditioned. Who is giving the repeated canned responses here? 

Come on slayer! Your gonna have to do better than that! The idiot and clueless
quotes were directed at the person who said "we should nuke china" anyone
who posts this about any country, is an idiot, and clueless.

Have i called you an idiot? or anyone else who has debated with me long
enough on this thread? You are again twisting my posts

Well, you did call me brainwashed and conditioned after one single post that YOU took out of context. So there's that.

reply to post by Jay-morris


Jay seriously..

First off, it might help if you stopped calling people names. Calling people idiots is not how a mature person discusses a topic. I think many here feel the same way as you about his comments. Also I seriously doubt most here would seriously advocate Nuking China. But when others have expressed their opposing opinion to yours you have come off repeatedly with they're "Conditioned, Brainwashed and full of PATRIOTISM"

There is no lying about that one.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


So, let me get this straight. If you were not american, then you
would be saying the same stuff you are saying about china?

Can you see the problem here? So, by your logic, we should ignore
all the horrible things other countries do, as long as they say nothing
about your problems. Funny that, considering the west, led by america
and the uk have pretty much invaded most of the middle east with the
excuse of "liberating the people" All governments have something to say
about other governments. Deal with it. If something terrible has happened
in your own government, be just ad vocal as you should be when other
governments do terrible things.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

So, let me get this straight. If you were not american, then you
would be saying the same stuff you are saying about china?

Can you see the problem here? So, by your logic, we should ignore
all the horrible things other countries do, as long as they say nothing
about your problems. Funny that, considering the west, led by america
and the uk have pretty much invaded most of the middle east with the
excuse of "liberating the people" All governments have something to say
about other governments. Deal with it. If something terrible has happened
in your own government, be just ad vocal as you should be when other
governments do terrible things.

ugh, this is tedious. Admit you took it out of context and move on. If I somewhere stated anything that supports what you are saying, please do quote it. Otherwise you are proven to be a "name-calling first" type poster.

You can rant about the US all you want. Can you say what my stance is about the things you listed? Whats that? You can't? Well then, I guess its time to admit you got it wrong.

As for "dealing with" what the other governments have to say, I am. Like I said, I am not giving two poops about it. Because it is inconsequential, and moot.

Think about this everyone perhaps..if you want ect.
No one in China can read this forum content.
Most illegal guns are bought in every china town across the globe.
Chinese people in other nations even those who are migrants very rarely use credit or debit cards ..they use cash almost exclusively.
They are the masters of subversion...thge chinese governmant and their millions of agents across the globe that is.
Not the average Chinese who escaped execution by getting out of there.
We all know the Chinese rulers have exterminated millions of Chinese people.
And we buy all their goods and make the leaders even more powerful.
Why?
Bribes.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
Come on slayer!

Come on yourself...

"Nuke China"

"Jay :OMG OMG OMG! You're an idiot that would kill thousands of Chinese!"


"China killed 30,000,000 of their own people during the cultural revolution"

"Jay: Yeah but that Evil West....."