The Nature of Existence and What Will Soon Come to Pass ***All Truth Revealed***

Originally posted by Molimo
reply to post by skynet2015

 

So something similar to Ghost In The Shell?

Minus the cool sound track from Origa.

Originally posted by Gumerk

Originally posted by theory101
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I have been "vibrating" when laying down (napping) during the day, for the last 4-5 years.. It only happens during the day! I cannot recall any time prior to that, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen! Sometimes, i fall into it when i first lay down, other times, i wake to it..

You're not alone in this "vibrating," I've been doing it off and on for the last...I would guess 10 years. Just curious, do you hear auditory signals, go OOB, or see the color purple when waking? I have the "vibration," both night and day.

Out of body experiences begin with the vibrating sensation. I use to do it all the time when I would take naps in the daytime. Next time it happens, try to leave your body and you will feel yourself floating away. Not sure exactly if it is a true out of body experience, but it is pretty cool.

Thank you for this thread. I've been researching our origins and nature over a year now, and came to conclusions that are in complete harmony/resonance with your post. There is truth in all religions, parts of a greater truth. If you choose to cling on to "one" truth, you will miss out and be stuck in a separated view. Perhaps I should reveal some of my compilations of a more sincere creation myth.

Not everyone will be enlightened so don't get your hopes up guys

Originally posted by NorEaster

I'm always surprised that physicists actually struggle with the fact that these two disciplines clash at principle levels. They understand the nature of emergent systems, but they still try to shoehorn one to fit with the other, when it's obvious that this isn't possible, nor even common between systems that exist at differing levels of overall emergence.

Yet the only audience you could find for your theory is on a conspiracy website. Interesting. The pretense is strong in this one.

Originally posted by littled16
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You are wrong friend. Your message has been received; the thing is that it is rejected!

No matter how scientific you try to make it sound what you are presenting is still just one of a million "New Age-y" touchy, feely, "we're all going to be illuminated and experience ascension" theories. There are absolutely no facts what-so-ever to back up any of these theories; they are all based on hopeful conjecture.

Have a nice day!

awww poor human has no faith in its spiritual and intellectual potential and capacity

Its okay littled16 - there are those of us who will lead the blidn atheists in the chaotic times which shall come to be. For human spirituality to grow, chaos must happen to rid old mental and physical habits. Something you are plagued of, as well as most members on this site I have noticed.

The OP has not lied, rejecting this message of spiritual transition is to Ultimately reject YOURSELF. If you want to stay the same weak, blind and hopeless human... no body is stopping you!! People as the OP and myself are subconsciously "programming" or 'readying' the humans who are trapped in this old mental, physical, spiritual and emotional box that has been put over them since incarnating in this controlled world.

To HAVE power and control over a planet; you must trick the dominant race into thinking they are nothing more then blood, flesh and bone. DO NOT let them understand they have the potential to be above matter itself. Or there will be no control.

You see the bigger picture of society, religion, money and war now? To keep your spirit as low and ignorant to itself as possible.

But,....

Times are changing, this has been foreseen, this has been prophicized (yes many false prophecies of people misinterpreting information...), and this will come to manifest. We WILL have to deal with a chaotic reality for some time, but when the storm clears there is always sun and rainbows

reply to post by LoveisanArt
Aren't you "special"? Enjoy your feelings of smug superiority if that's what makes you happy, but the fact remains that there is no proof of what you believe- just your "special" little feeling.

"Just because you know" is proof of absolutely nothing. And not believing in this "ascension/enlightenment" tripe isn't lack of faith in one's spiritual or intellectual potential or capacity, it's not buying into a made up scenario just because it's popular with the Facebook and Twitter crowd this month.

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Nothing to do with being special; just truthful to my spirit

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and how can you be so certain that it's all not just your powerful human's brain creating ALL those feelings & experiences you've mentioned about?..

I'm really curious to know and being sincere.

Originally posted by NorEaster
reply to post by Apocryphon

 

So....how did this frequency come into existence? And what requirement did this frequency's emergence satisfy?

If you say that this frequency "just is and always was", then you've simply renamed the central character of every theology, and dressed it up in a lab coat. If you refuse to even address the requirement issue, then you're isolating this frequency's existence as abhorrent relative to all other emergent properties and manifestations of physical existence.

In short, you got some further detailing to provide if this theory is to ever be taken seriously.

Sorry this is so late, but better late than never...

You are postulating requirements for "this frequency". There need be no requirements (beyond the necessity for Intelligent Infinity experiencing all possible combinations of experience) for something to 'just be'. It could well be completely spontaneous, or it could be a well-designed prop. Moreover, the frequency is not a conceptual slot or a 'setting' for your radio, as you seem to have pegged it. Your radio is tuned to something and it happens to be this and here. "This" frequency is simply where we are right now. Are you going to ask why the football field is under the teams playing football?

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I never said that there's no such thing as a soul. You assume a lot of things about someone you absolutely do not know. If you wish to continue perpetrating the ascension flavor of the month theory- fine. The long, flowery speech still proves nothing. Fairy tales are full of long, flowery language as well.

more deception by new agers....

I think this film is one of the best for exposing this sort of stuff...
It is doing the rounds on ATS, if you search for it : Short Film: 111

This pretty much exposes and also shows the deception that is going on !

I want to compliment the OP on the quality of his presentation. It's reminiscent of ATS's former glory days and quite welcome for a change from the usual low-class half-baked drivel we see too much of these days.

For the first time in a long time I've read all the member comments and find them to be higher quality as well, and mostly devoid of the social Lemming styles that have dominated ATS of late.

Good job and congratulations on a most satisfactory and rewarding effort.

Wow. Heavy. So do you say "we" because you are a collective noun, or is it by virtue of you belonging to some sort of enlightened group?

'I' say 'we' because that is what resonates within. To this MBSC's understanding, his thought process is not of his own, but of many.

And what is an "MBSC." I really did try to look it up, but I had no luck. Google thought I might mean "MSNBC."

MInd/Body/Spirit Complex. 'I' would rather write 'MBSC' then the whole thing

And don't you mean "its" (possessive) rather than "it's" (contraction of "it is") I wouldn't normally point that out for fear of being called a Grammar Nazi, but OP has set a very high standard here we should live up to.

My apologies, it's good to know some are more focused on how things are said, and not what it is being said..

So let me attempt to parse this out. Op has written this rather marvelous statement about life, the Universe, and everything which shows a keen grasp of science and religion and is attempting to impart [insert something here] to the members of ATS while also admitting he's "not at liberty" to elaborate and also that "there's not much time" (said elsewhere). This has apparently been said in some sort of code or esoteric language meant only for certain people "who have ears to hear" and really isn't for everyone, but you, in particular (and a few others) are ones who "have heard" and are, apparently, better off for hearing it. Not that you have suddenly become enlightened because, after all, you already are, but you and OP have an "understanding" about these things. Kind of like the masonic "secret handshake," brother, that the rest of us simply cannot understand from our lower level. I mean, his stuff just resonates with Truth!

You are in a way correct. I would not go as far as referring to masonic rituals, more of a collective understanding.

Apoc's annotations contain vibrations, just as anyone's 'word's' would do. One would 'receive' these vibrations, then go through a thought process based on what resonates and what does not. The 'problem', if that is what it wishes to be called, is that 'people' these days find that if even a single thought goes against what resonates within them (based on whatever 'you' judge it on) that it is like the other MBSC is commiting a crime against them.

Hence all this non-sense bickering.

Further, OP has stated there is going to be three days of utter darkness where NOTHING gets through the magnetosphere. This is said using scientific language, so we're not talking any metaphors or allegories here. This is the Real Deal. The implication is that he means now, the Winter Solsitice, 2012, though he's just a bit vague about it, so there's enough wiggle room to say this is physically not "The Date," but it WILL happen Real Soon Now.

All that beings in mystery, ends in mystery. Not even those in 'heaven' know exactly what time anything would happen, only the One does. It is a process, just like anything else. Patience.

M'OK. It's dark out now, 6:08pm PST, so assuming OP is not going to waffle on us and claim it was all a big misunderstanding and he really didn't mean all this literally, after all, then I should be losing my Wi-Fi connection in a few hours.

Do not think in terms of time; or "what time". Think.."what day".

Originally posted by dinkot
reply to post by LoveisanArt

 

and how can you be so certain that it's all not just your powerful human's brain creating ALL those feelings & experiences you've mentioned about?..

I'm really curious to know and being sincere.

Because a true Seeker painfully struggles toward the goal of Self awareness which is a time consuming journey to a place not yet remembered, and could not possibly be found as long as Monkey Mind exists to prevent it.

The Spiritual journey begins without knowing the goal and over the years Faith (or desperation) develops as preconceptions fall by the wayside in the abyss. When the unknown goal is finally reached nothing else exists... especially not the mind, and not the body either

Mind, body, and Spirit. Thinking, feeling, and Willing. The first two exist only as tools to get to the One. And when you get there you know both IT... and exactly how you got there as well. There's NO mistake about direct Spiritual revelation of Enlightenment (or ?).

The NA'er gets the answers from books and can answer only one of the Master's questions, the one studied with his Brain. The NA'er can never Know because typically he has not done the hard painful work required to become a Knower.

Most Seekers begin with NA because there are so few Paths presented in Western Society but with increasing dedication move beyond it to seek for their own answers... as Socrates observed: "All Truth (Divine Wisdom) comes from within," and, "the unexamined life is not worth living."

Seek (sincerely) and ye shall find. Ask (appropriately) and ye shall receive. In time.

Originally posted by seamus

Originally posted by NorEaster
reply to post by Apocryphon

 

So....how did this frequency come into existence? And what requirement did this frequency's emergence satisfy?

If you say that this frequency "just is and always was", then you've simply renamed the central character of every theology, and dressed it up in a lab coat. If you refuse to even address the requirement issue, then you're isolating this frequency's existence as abhorrent relative to all other emergent properties and manifestations of physical existence.

In short, you got some further detailing to provide if this theory is to ever be taken seriously.

Sorry this is so late, but better late than never...

You are postulating requirements for "this frequency". There need be no requirements (beyond the necessity for Intelligent Infinity experiencing all possible combinations of experience) for something to 'just be'. It could well be completely spontaneous, or it could be a well-designed prop. Moreover, the frequency is not a conceptual slot or a 'setting' for your radio, as you seem to have pegged it. Your radio is tuned to something and it happens to be this and here. "This" frequency is simply where we are right now. Are you going to ask why the football field is under the teams playing football?

For something to exist "under the football team" (as you sort of put it) it must share the same physical structure as that football team - which a football field does in fact share (atoms, molecules, adherence to natural laws, to name just a few shared properties). This is how reality works, even if you'll continue to refuse to believe it. Since the OP has made a big display about this frequency as the primordial initiator of what we all know to exist as physical reality, then this frequency must not only share a similar physical structure as the rest of physical reality, its unique physical nature - as a whole - must be "threaded" throughout the whole of physical reality, in the same way that water is ubiquitous within all that comes into existence as a direct or indirect result of water - life, for instance. We Homo Sapiens are over 90% water, and this is true of most life forms on this planet, even though carbon is the primary unit element that Earth life forms are made of. In short, what contributes at the primary level to the emergence of whatever it is that has emerged, is overwhelmingly represented within the whole of that emergent something, and this is just how it goes within the whole of physical reality.

The OP claims that this frequency is the absolute basis of physical reality, and yet he suggests (as you also suggest) that this primordial frequency is not similar to everything that contains it, in the most substantive and primary sense possible - it's relative being state, or lack there of. It's like this: If something exists as physical (which this frequency must, if it's the physical basis of all physical existence) then it exists in a Relative Being State, which means that it exists relative to everything else that also exists. Another way to put this is that if this frequency exists, there must be a point where its physical presence ceases, in order to allow for the existence of something else, even if that something else is just the absence of the physical presence of that frequency that exists. This is the fundamental issue of Existential Identity and the requirement that the existent something be identifiable relative to that which isn't it (that existent something) in order for that existent something to possess actual existential identity and therefore physical existence.

This isn't philosophy. This is the basis of physics. If you stated that this frequency simply exists devoid of involvement with anything that we know to physically exist, then you might have the option to claim that it is part of an unreachable reality confine that requires no physical emergence of any kind. And I could disagree, but I'd have no proof that your assertion is impossible. In this case, however, the fact that you're asserting that everything that we all know to exist as real and physically tangible is linked physically to this frequency requires that this frequency share the same need for physical emergence that everything we know to exist shares with everything else that we know to exist. Your statement that such emergence isn't required is not accurate. Especially if you're further claiming a non-emergent primordial intellect in need of experience is being served by this frequency. In fact, you're further junking up the scientific nature of the OP's presentation with even more faith-based dogma by tossing a god of some sort into the discussion.

So, again, I ask - How did this frequency emerge? And what requirement did its emergence satisfy?

So far, neither you, nor the OP, has been able to answer these two questions.

Originally posted by CallYourBluff

Originally posted by NorEaster

I'm always surprised that physicists actually struggle with the fact that these two disciplines clash at principle levels. They understand the nature of emergent systems, but they still try to shoehorn one to fit with the other, when it's obvious that this isn't possible, nor even common between systems that exist at differing levels of overall emergence.

Yet the only audience you could find for your theory is on a conspiracy website. Interesting. The pretense is strong in this one.

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Says you, grasshopper.

Now aren't you glad you brought a very sound
wake up message to the enlightened minds and open arms of ATS?
The Flags tell the real story. Many members including me, understand what your saying.
And we know you don't mean your better because you see it.
It's quite the contrary.

Others always hear what they think is the same ol New Age mumbo jumbo.
But what is truth but painstakingly slow and complete awareness?
Everyone knows what is needed so that EVERYONE can have a quality life.
More studies show happiness is not related to income.

The current lifestyles are about to change. Aint no other way around it.
We are about to realize, we don't need a 20th of the junk we have.
People will want land for a garden, fresh clean water, Sunlight, a porch,
and homemade beer w friendly neighbors to share it .


We won't be working 60 hours a week so that we can pay for more crap
we know we don't need. Products like chairs and tables will be bought or made ONCE.
To last a lifetime. TPTB know this. This is what our NEW AGE means.

Quality of life. For all. It's completely do-able.
The giant corporations know it. And will do everything
in their power to scare you into thinking the idea is a commie socialist thing.
Or a hippie thing . But when this country was founded, everyone that set out
to find their piece of land, sunlight and beer, knew what true happiness and freedom
was.

Until the bears got em... But they were livin it up till then.

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Suicide's still an option though right?