Step by Step CIA manual for Programing Killers/Slaves

This is just mid blowing, not for what it means, most of you on ATS
already know or suspect CIA has been doing mind control

But the Detail, My God, the details of how its done, what the poor victims
go through

The cold callous methodical brutality of it all. How can these CIA
Personnel be involved in something like this, is every single one of
them a psychopath, Is that a requirement for the job ?!?!?!?!?!

I mean think about this, think about act of 9/11, programing 100 or so
killers/slaves is nothing compared to killing 3000 Americans on 9/11

so it is COMPLETELY believable that CIA would be able to and
willing to program killers to kill kids.

Very few people understand the level evil has reached. Very few.

How the Subjects are Chosen

A preset group of our people (from the intelligence community) canvasses the county hospitals and immigration centers in order to find viable candidates. We locate and select people who have no close family or friends. Once they have been selected, they are put under heavy, Level One hypnosis

If the tested applicant has more than 120 IQ, a "recall" command and an accompanying "trigger" word will be written into his personality during the Level One hypnosis session. This "trigger" will activate his recall program when we are ready for him. We then systematically do a background search and create a file for future reference. If there are no relatives, to speak of, the subject will be "recalled" and taken to a location of our choice. Further tests for vulnerability will be conducted at this location. If he passes these tests, he is then brought to Level 2 hypnosis where specific instructions are "written" (placed through hypnotic commands and suggestions) into his personality and he is given diverse small orders. If the subject, upon release, shows that he has retained the instructions which were "written" into his personality, and if he carries out the small and unimportant work duties which were assigned under Level 2 hypnosis, he will receive a "recall service notice".

During Level 3 programming sessions, the new subject is told that anything his "friends", i.e. programmers, ask him to do, is okay, even though it may be against all laws of the land. At Level 3, the subject is also programmed to believe that he must and can do everything his "friends" i.e., programmers ask him to do.

Level 4 Once at the facility, we will put the subject into Level 4 hypnosis, a place where he no longer differentiates between right and wrong. The subject will be told he is a "Super Human" and all laws are written for other people. The subject's moral code, respect for the law, and fear of dying is replaced with new "Super Human" feelings. This is the Level that turns a subject into a "Clear Eyes", i.e., a fully programmed "sleeper" assassin, who can commit crimes as serious as murder, and afterwards have no shame, guilt, or remorse.

www.rumormillnews.com...

If the tested applicant has more than 120 IQ, a "recall" command and an accompanying "trigger" word will be written into his personality during the Level One hypnosis session. This "trigger" will activate his recall program when we are ready for him. We then systematically do a background search and create a file for future reference. If there are no relatives, to speak of, the subject will be "recalled" and taken to a location of our choice. Further tests for vulnerability will be conducted at this location. If he passes these tests, he is then brought to Level 2 hypnosis where specific instructions are "written" (placed through hypnotic commands and suggestions) into his personality and he is given diverse small orders. If the subject, upon release, shows that he has retained the instructions which were "written" into his personality, and if he carries out the small and unimportant work duties which were assigned under Level 2 hypnosis, he will receive a "recall service notice".

This makes me think of the show "Dollhouse." It was ALL about mind control and programming and making "agents" to do whatever they were programmed to do. It involved key words or triggers and their handlers were the ones who controlled them. I loved that show, it was done by Joss Whedon however it only lasted about 2 Seasons.

Anyone who thinks this stuff is just fiction has never read into it. It is real and it IS scary. I have always been fascinated by the mind and psychology but this kind of manipulation really goes to a dark place that one has to have no soul whatsoever to do something like this to another human being. I don't doubt there are manchurian candidates out there. It is a scary thought to be honest. You just never know!

I also do think the govt would set up certain scenarios to further certain agendas. To them it's just "collateral damage" and that is it where to the rest of us it's a tragic event.



Crazy world we live in for sure.

I'm sorry, but it seems your link is to a blog of some sort. Where is the link showing this to be a CIA document?

Pfft. Pure fiction. That's not the way the Agency does it at all. Who writes that stuff?

This reminds of an experience I had (in fact THE experience that brought this once completely anti-conspiracy "you're an idiot if you believe in aliens and ghosts and what not" guy into to the world of conspiracy.) I "volunteered" (I was actually coerced...but this is an even longer story) to commit myself to psychiatric "help" in a hospital last year. I was there because of a suicide attempt on my part (I'm perfectly OK now). Anyway, during my stay there I noticed a couple of odd things in the ward. The oddest thing was a series of telephones that were set up around the room (which I thought was odd, because most of the patients I was with were completely out of their mind--I mean, rambling and just utterly distorted in thought, so I wasn't sure who they would actually be calling, anway).

But it gets stranger. I noticed that the phones would keep ringing every 10 or 20 minutes. They would just keep ringing and when you tried to answer, there would be no answer on the other side. At first I just dismissed this as some type of therapy for another patient. But, this event would happen every single day that I was there. Finally, I talked to one of the counselors about it and said "Ok, ok, so the phones aren't supposed to work, are they?".

Her response? To look at me blankly like I didn't know what I was talking about and refer to the desk phone, which I was allowed to use, even though they told other patients that that phone couldn't be used and not to ask.

Perhaps, the craziest experience I have ever had in my life. I felt like they were intentionally trying to make the patients go crazy at that place. So, when people say seemingly "crazy" things like the government as pys-ops research going on--and they are experimenting on people--I believe them.

Side note: I actually could go more into this story, but I would honestly just sound insane and I would rather members see me as the thoughtful rational person I try to be in most of my posts.

-Ghoster

Originally posted by Bedlam
Pfft. Pure fiction. That's not the way the Agency does it at all. Who writes that stuff?

And if you know so much why don't you contribute more than know it all sarcasm?

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Well, you can't just hold the patients incommunicado unless it's part of some temporary isolation or they're in PICU.

Were you holding the phone upside down? Is it possible one of your friends turned down the volume on them? Or they were just broken? Maybe the other pt's families were calling in trying to reach them being the reason they're going off all the time?

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm sorry, but it seems your link is to a blog of some sort. Where is the link showing this to be a CIA document?

The guy who the blog is written after is Gunther Russbacher he WAS a CIA operative. He is the one who said what that site is posting. The site was started by him and his wife.

Who Founded Rumor Mill News

I am assuming that is where they got their title for using "manual."

This guy has a pretty interesting career and past. The site is also very interesting. I just googled his name and all kinds of information came up. Seems some didn't like him esp when he started talking.

The site gives their story, how they met and everything else you need to know.

Originally posted by Bedlam
reply to post by theghoster

 

Well, you can't just hold the patients incommunicado unless it's part of some temporary isolation or they're in PICU.

Were you holding the phone upside down? Is it possible one of your friends turned down the volume on them? Or they were just broken? Maybe the other pt's families were calling in trying to reach them being the reason they're going off all the time?

Well, I was told by psychologist that I was deemed a "Danger to myself and the public" and that I could either volunteer to commit myself or have the State of Maryland Court Order me to have psychiatric treatment.

I responded "So, basically I have no choice?"

The psychologist responded with a hapless shrug and I signed the paperwork and consented. That's how it went down.

As for the phones: There is no mistaking what I saw. There were two off-pink colored, clunky phones attached to the walls. They both would occasionally ring (like, I said every 10 to 20 minutes). I would answer the phones like I normally answer the phone and nobody would answer. I finally gave up trying to talk to anyone on these phones after several attempts. I have no explanations for why they would have this in a psychiatric ward filled with already unstable people -- it seemed somewhat inhuman.

-Ghoster

I have no doubt that something along these lines is somewhat real. I don't believe the details in this article are what really goes on, but hypnosis is very real.

To what extent programs like this have been taken, who knows?

One of the cable networks did a program showing how a correctional officer underwent several hypnosis sessions after been weeded out of a large applicant pool. The hypnotist could litterally snap his fingers and induce hypnotic state. The subject would wake up and not even know anything happened. They eventually programmed him, complete with a "trigger" to perform a fake shooting. I can't remember the name of the show, but it was quite fascinating.

I would imagine it would cost an ungodly ammount of money and time to realistically do this to someone. I also would imagine that after spending so many resources on someone -- they'd be hesitant to let the subject simply kill themselves.

If there are programs that are out there doing this, I would bet that they focus primarily on infiltration and intelligence gathering. The people picked for the programming are now "assets" and would be a shame to loose. I could see this being quite beneficial to deep cover agents, because well trained people can spot a liar. If you truly believe you are who you've been programmed to be -- you theoretically could pass a lie detector and any kind of torture/interrogation sessions.

I think the idea has probably been toyed around with, similar to the remote viewing programs of the Cold War. I would also bet that programs like these would make high level politicians very uneasy and nervous. Being able to program someone like a computer is an insane ammount of power!

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
And if you know so much why don't you contribute more than know it all sarcasm?

Sid Gottlieb came up with the approach they use now. Pity he's been gone for the last 13 years or you could ask him yourself.

The trick is not to come into direct conflict with the trainee's psyche - it's too ingrained. You hijack his normal responses instead. You can't do it to just anyone, either, you need to start with someone pretty dissociative, although in truth, Gottlieb was able to get fairly normal people to attempt to commit some pretty godawful stuff if legend is true.

"attempt" was probably just the first stage of that, too, knowing the Agency.

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Sounds like they were making people nuts! I know a phone ringing repeatedly with nobody on the other end over and over would make me go a little nuts.


You should tell your story. If anyone thinks you are nuts, don't mind them, they are just too afraid to know the truth and horrors of what happens in mental hospitals. Many other members have shared their stories, dont' let people on here keep you from sharing. There is a thread on here where many members share their experiences and what was done to them in various mental health facilities. I can't find it if i do I'll link you to it.

All one has to do is research what was done to people in insane asylums back when they were the place to send people who were "crazy." I dont doubt this still goes on!

It seems to me that people in a "crazy" house would be perfect candidates for practicing such techniques on since they really have no real say in their own mental health or care, people already think they are nuts and chances are they have nobody to miss them or wonder what is happening. It's actually quite sad. They are literal guinea pigs

Originally posted by theghoster
This reminds of an experience I had (in fact THE experience that brought this once completely anti-conspiracy "you're an idiot if you believe in aliens and ghosts and what not" guy into to the world of conspiracy.) I "volunteered" (I was actually coerced...but this is an even longer story) to commit myself to psychiatric "help" in a hospital last year. I was there because of a suicide attempt on my part (I'm perfectly OK now). Anyway, during my stay there I noticed a couple of odd things in the ward. The oddest thing was a series of telephones that were set up around the room (which I thought was odd, because most of the patients I was with were completely out of their mind--I mean, rambling and just utterly distorted in thought, so I wasn't sure who they would actually be calling, anway).

But it gets stranger. I noticed that the phones would keep ringing every 10 or 20 minutes. They would just keep ringing and when you tried to answer, there would be no answer on the other side. At first I just dismissed this as some type of therapy for another patient. But, this event would happen every single day that I was there. Finally, I talked to one of the counselors about it and said "Ok, ok, so the phones aren't supposed to work, are they?".

Her response? To look at me blankly like I didn't know what I was talking about and refer to the desk phone, which I was allowed to use, even though they told other patients that that phone couldn't be used and not to ask.

Perhaps, the craziest experience I have ever had in my life. I felt like they were intentionally trying to make the patients go crazy at that place. So, when people say seemingly "crazy" things like the government as pys-ops research going on--and they are experimenting on people--I believe them.

Side note: I actually could go more into this story, but I would honestly just sound insane and I would rather members see me as the thoughtful rational person I try to be in most of my posts.

-Ghoster

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edit on 18-12-2012 by theghoster because: (no reason given)

did anyone pick them up and have conversations? might be their test to see who is really crazy lol

do tell more, in a new thread plz

Originally posted by Bedlam

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
And if you know so much why don't you contribute more than know it all sarcasm?

Sid Gottlieb came up with the approach they use now. Pity he's been gone for the last 13 years or you could ask him yourself.

The trick is not to come into direct conflict with the trainee's psyche - it's too ingrained. You hijack his normal responses instead. You can't do it to just anyone, either, you need to start with someone pretty dissociative, although in truth, Gottlieb was able to get fairly normal people to attempt to commit some pretty godawful stuff if legend is true.

"attempt" was probably just the first stage of that, too, knowing the Agency.

I know who Sid Gottlieb is and do you really think they haven't changed the ways they do things over the decades? Have you even looked at the link the OP gave? Do you even know who the person is who wrote what he shared?

Care to share some links for those who don't know what you are talking about.

Gottlieb isn't the only person who did mind control or programming. Just because he may have started it doesn't mean he was the only one doing it or perfecting it.

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm sorry, but it seems your link is to a blog of some sort. Where is the link showing this to be a CIA document?

www.wanttoknow.info... this has all the documents

Originally posted by christoph

Originally posted by theghoster
This reminds of an experience I had (in fact THE experience that brought this once completely anti-conspiracy "you're an idiot if you believe in aliens and ghosts and what not" guy into to the world of conspiracy.) I "volunteered" (I was actually coerced...but this is an even longer story) to commit myself to psychiatric "help" in a hospital last year. I was there because of a suicide attempt on my part (I'm perfectly OK now). Anyway, during my stay there I noticed a couple of odd things in the ward. The oddest thing was a series of telephones that were set up around the room (which I thought was odd, because most of the patients I was with were completely out of their mind--I mean, rambling and just utterly distorted in thought, so I wasn't sure who they would actually be calling, anway).

But it gets stranger. I noticed that the phones would keep ringing every 10 or 20 minutes. They would just keep ringing and when you tried to answer, there would be no answer on the other side. At first I just dismissed this as some type of therapy for another patient. But, this event would happen every single day that I was there. Finally, I talked to one of the counselors about it and said "Ok, ok, so the phones aren't supposed to work, are they?".

Her response? To look at me blankly like I didn't know what I was talking about and refer to the desk phone, which I was allowed to use, even though they told other patients that that phone couldn't be used and not to ask.

Perhaps, the craziest experience I have ever had in my life. I felt like they were intentionally trying to make the patients go crazy at that place. So, when people say seemingly "crazy" things like the government as pys-ops research going on--and they are experimenting on people--I believe them.

Side note: I actually could go more into this story, but I would honestly just sound insane and I would rather members see me as the thoughtful rational person I try to be in most of my posts.

-Ghoster

edit on 18-12-2012 by theghoster because: (no reason given)

edit on 18-12-2012 by theghoster because: (no reason given)

did anyone pick them up and have conversations? might be their test to see who is really crazy lol

do tell more, in a new thread

plz

I might, one day soon, but it is quite a long story, so I might have the write it all out and then post it, so its coherent. Anyway, I'm curious where this guy got his information from...because based on my experience it seems somewhat spot on as far as picking out already deranged and isolated people.

-Ghoster

Originally posted by Bedlam
reply to post by theghoster

 

Well, you can't just hold the patients incommunicado unless it's part of some temporary isolation or they're in PICU.

Were you holding the phone upside down? Is it possible one of your friends turned down the volume on them? Or they were just broken? Maybe the other pt's families were calling in trying to reach them being the reason they're going off all the time?

This would be where a girlfriend/boyfriend that enters the subject life comes into play. Someone "new" that either now lives with them or spends a great deal of time with them. I agree that you can't just whisk someone away to some "center" -- this type of programming can be done by the right people in your own living room , on your own couch at night.

I wonder if some of the people claiming abduction stories might be the unfortunate victims of these types of "experiments". I'm sure only a handful of selected candidates for these types of programs are actually used for anything nefarious. I'm willing to be most are just to learn more about the processes and advance the field of study.

I find it interesting that you brought up the telephones. I know that DSL internet connections travel over traditional phone lines in a frequency the human concious mind can't detect. This is why when you have DSL internet you can still talk on the phone.

We know that brainwave entrainment is possible by using certain frequencies. Perhaps the phones you picked up were playing a hyper or subsonic frequency to induce an altered brainwave state?

Originally posted by HappyLIBERTARIAN

Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'm sorry, but it seems your link is to a blog of some sort. Where is the link showing this to be a CIA document?

www.wanttoknow.info... this has all the documents

Thank you.

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

Thank you for this link. I followed it to a story on this Russbacher guy, here:

www.rumormillnews.com...

He claims to be a Navy admiral who flew George Bush around in an SR-71. And he even poses for a picture right outta Top Gun. Best laugh I've had in weeks.