Standing water on Mars in PIA16550

Plain as the nose on your face!


(gimp---cartoon affect with writing)

Come on ATS, pay attention and ensure that NASA and the mismanagers are not off the hook.

Shadows.





mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

NOT A SHADOW.

I cannot believe this is even the response.

They can't change from water to shadow with a camera angle.

By the way, with those other pics, even the "shadows" look a little wet, must be taken at the edge of this area.

FInding another set of pics, that could be taken anywhere in a related area, to try and discredit a high resolution NASA picture showing water, is very much slight of hand.

If repeating a mistruth doesnt work, slight hand does?

reply to post by Unity_99


I think Phage is correct. His example shows the exact same color gradient near those rocks as what appears to be in the OP's pic.

They're not the same pictures. They are identical in high resolution, so if they're accurate, the ones we're showing are as well.

That is going to the edge of the "pond or puddle" where similar rocks are and taking a semi wet pic and trying to fob it off as the same thing.

Those are shadows. Have you never hiked in a desert or arid area? I'm tellin ya- theys shadows matey.
The shell shape thingy is cool though- as is this interesting rock:

rock

sorry- couldn't get it to post in message

Shadows of rocks with water. That is what the pictures show. The other pictures, which are of similar rocks, were obviously taken at the edge of the puddle, but they also look "wet" like water mixed in with sand.

reply to post by Unity_99


Compare the color.

There is not just standing water but possibly a river on mars.



Link to larger image

River on mars

Original link.

NASA Raw Image

Excellent photo OP, and I agree that at first glance it certainly does look an awful lot like water.

That said, optical illusions come in many forms. Just because something looks similar to another thing does not make it that other thing. The explanations provided do explain the reality of what we are seeing; sand and shadows. I know that many want to believe there is water on Mars, and there may very well be some in very brief moments and under the surface, but these pictures aren't showing us any. Sand and shadows only.

Cheers.

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They are shadows and darkened terrain.

Not standing water.

Originally posted by Phage
Shadows.





mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

Props to you Phage. Excellent comparative images.

Cheers.

Even the rocks themselves look worn down as if by running water. I wouldn't consider that area to be dry and the silt look is much like a delta.

Used to pan for gold with my grandfather in creek beds and the colors were a lot like that.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Even the rocks themselves look worn down as if by running water. I wouldn't consider that area to be dry and the silt look is much like a delta.

No one is denying that Mars had running and standing water in the past. The evidence for that is overwhelming.

No one is denying that Mars has water today, just not standing water. Any water that is there is in the form of ice, frost, vapor and possible ice/liquid deep underground.

But the air on Mars is just way too thin to support standing water. Frost can happen due to the extremely cold temps that happen there. But even the frost doesn't "melt". It sublimates straight to vapor.

Let me guess: you think the Surface of Venus isn't sitting at 900 deg F, with 90 times the pressure of Earth, and a nightmare thermal runaway either, do you? I bet you think it's some sort of tropical jungle and all the people on the Earth that study Venus are lying too, right?

So no answer because i am still somewhat confused?

As far as i can tell, this Harsh environments could justify the below pic as a seashell.

Think I need new glasses because it sure looks like it is standing water to me. I know, or at least have been told, that this is impossible. Nice find OP, even if it isn't water.

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Don't see it, sorry. Looked hard. Tried to brainwash myself even.

I guess You're going to need to give me those pills that make me see it.

I'll admit I've seen pictures that were said to be from mars and they did indeed look like they either showed lakes or small canals of water, but I do not know if the pictures were genuine.

Originally posted by Thorneblood
So no answer because i am still somewhat confused?

As far as i can tell, this Harsh environments could justify the below pic as a seashell.

Looks like a rock to me. Rocks come in many shapes and sizes, and with the right lighting and shading and at the correct angles, they can look like any number of things. That doesn't mean they actually are what they may resemble. If you look long enough you can find all kinds of interesting looking rock formations, but you can accomplish the same thing by looking at clouds and wood grain. Optical illusions abound.

Starcrossd - I think that strange rock is very interesting as it has at least one hole in it and you can see straight through. Looks like a 'rock' which is only a couple of inches thick too, in fact not very rock-like at all.

I dont really think that Phage's shadows are the same because you can see some detail in the 'sand' areas which lead me to think that the ones in his links are sand perhaps. There will always be shadows, but what we need is a different view of this particular rock area which shows that it is indeed fine sand. (or water)


This one is taken from the tif image linked in my first post.

Can you honestly tell me that this does not LOOK like water or some fluid ? Of course it does.
mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

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Never mind